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#Post#: 48--------------------------------------------------
Proposed 911 Dispatch Procedure for Pine Grove Area
By: Director Date: November 20, 2011, 5:18 pm
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The attached is a revised draft of a proposed procedure
regarding 911 dispatching in the Pine Grove area. Please comment
on any problems or improvements to the revised procedure. The
comments that preceeded this revision are valid and are
appreciated. I analyzed the data for 6 months of calls to the
Station 50 area that included over 100 runs. There appeared to
be 2 calls where Rapid Responders responded outside of the
time that Station 50 was on duty or there was a standby crew
available. There may have been more, but our existing data made
that hard to determine.
The following is an extract of the mutual aid agreement that was
agreed on by Folsom VFD and the WCEAA Board that is included to
show that this revision satisfies and improves on the original
intent:
[list]
[li]It is agreed whenever there is an emergency call for the
area normally covered by the station 50 crew and there is no
station 50 crew on duty, Wetzel County 911 Dispatch will first
tone out station 50 for the call, then page either Folsom VFD
EMS or W.C.E.A.A. station 20 to respond depending on which
agency is on back up duty for the week.
[/li]
[li]It is also agreed that in the event an off duty station 50
crew responds to the station to respond to the emergency call
and arrives on scene first, the station 50 crew will be
permitted to continue with patient care and transport. At this
point, Wetzel County 911 Dispatch will be notified that other
responding agency(s) can "stand down" unless a medic or other
assistance is needed.[/li]
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#Post#: 50--------------------------------------------------
Re: Proposed 911 Dispatch Procedure for Pine Grove Area
By: shuggins Date: November 21, 2011, 2:28 pm
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Is this saying that Jeremy and I, or anyone else in the area,
can not respond if we don't call 911 and be available to sit by
the pager and wait? When not on shift, we have family lives. I
do however, carry my radio 24/7. Because it does take a while to
get help sometimes, I like to be prepared. If the tones don't
drop, I can not provide services to MY community. That is why we
are here, right? I do not see this as a good thing. We are here,
we should be able to serve as we can. Am I going to jump on
every thing running? No. If it is a "they won't die from a paper
cut" call, a first responder is not needed. If you were having a
heart attack or something not so great, would you want to wait,
or get someone down the street to you? And yes, I have gone on
Pine Grove, Hundred and Wileyville calls when I was not on
shift. I do not care for this policy. Patient care first. I do
not care if we are trying to be friends with surrounding
communities. Patient care first. I do not care if feelings are
hurt. Patient care first. I have no problem working with other
communities, I believe I can never have too many hands!
Sometimes, I can grab a truck, sometimes it will be best to hit
the scene and provide needed care until other help arrives. So
if anyone cares, I vote no. Thank you for your time.
#Post#: 51--------------------------------------------------
Re: Proposed 911 Dispatch Procedure for Pine Grove Area
By: bday Date: November 21, 2011, 5:09 pm
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As I advised earlier, I also have a problem with this policy
"Not in Service." I believe that if there is a call in 50 area,
they should always page station 50 first. There are times that
I am in the Pine Grove area for my daughter's games, etc and am
technically available for a call, but don't call dispatch to
tell them that. I also like to go out to eat at their area
restaurants on occasion. I am also available for a call then.
But I may not know if there is another crew person available to
respond with me. However, if only co 1 is paged for the call, I
could be next door and not even know that there is an
unresponsive pt within 50 feet of my location. Station 60
doesn't always have a crew on shift, but are always paged for
every call in the area to see if anyone is in the area and
available. Station 30 does not always call dispatch when there
is a crew available, yet, they are paged first. They aren't
passed up for a call just because no one called dispatch to say
there is someone available. There is not only one person that
can respond in that area. There are many of us that have family
in the area and are in that response area without notifying
dispatch. We would like to be given the opportunity to provide
services to our community quickly, also.
#Post#: 53--------------------------------------------------
Re: Proposed 911 Dispatch Procedure for Pine Grove Area
By: dglover Date: November 24, 2011, 9:43 am
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I know this is not Tyler County but there we are either in
service or not. But, here is the difference. If say
Sistersville EMS were dispatched for a call to Middlebourne and
Middlebourne EMS were out of service I would still know there
was a call because I ALWAYS WEAR MY PAGER!! I would, and have,
first responded. Now luckily Middlebourne EMS has not been out
of service but it could happen. My point is Folsom is
dispatched on Fire Frequency and we do not hear the page if we
are wearing our pagers. If the call is in Pine Grove and say
Richard were in Pine Grove but out of service cause he did not
have a driver, Folsom should be dispatched but also 50's tones
should be dropped for First Response. That way the patient is
receiving care promptly. It all boils down to patient care and
I think we all believe that this is our major concern.
#Post#: 56--------------------------------------------------
Re: Proposed 911 Dispatch Procedure for Pine Grove Area
By: Price, Richard Date: November 24, 2011, 9:03 pm
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I don't like that 50 will not be paged, if one of my family or
friends or anyone I know is sick I would like to 1st respond or
like the 2 sisters said it's don't hurt to page us out, even
after they page falsom or new martinsville out. Best care is
care that gets to the people the fastest. This bothers me
because most of my family and friends is over here and I live so
close in 50s area. that I can 1st respond if 50 gets paged.
#Post#: 64--------------------------------------------------
Re: Proposed 911 Dispatch Procedure for Pine Grove Area
By: Jim Colvin Date: November 27, 2011, 2:17 pm
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I believe we need to follow the "board approved" policy
concerning the coverage of the station 50 area that was
proposed.
#Post#: 82--------------------------------------------------
Re: Proposed 911 Dispatch Procedure for Pine Grove Area
By: carlamcbee Date: December 1, 2011, 1:27 pm
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This appears to me that this revised policy allows station 50 to
get the first page and then folsom will get paged and can be
cancelled if someone from WCEAA responds. This looks good to
me. carla
#Post#: 113--------------------------------------------------
Re: Proposed 911 Dispatch Procedure for Pine Grove Area
By: shuggins Date: December 5, 2011, 2:32 pm
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Read
#Post#: 122--------------------------------------------------
Re: Proposed 911 Dispatch Procedure for Pine Grove Area
By: bday Date: December 6, 2011, 1:27 pm
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For WCEAA policy, I also believe that it should be noted how to
determine which "rapid responder" is taking the run. If, say,
Richard and Andrew are in station, they should key up the mic
and notify dispatch that a full crew is available and responding
momentarily, or something similar. If, say, I am already at
station, but with no partner, I should be required to notify
dispatch via radio so that others responding know that there is
already one crew member on station and available, so that we
don't have another FULL crew responding when only needed is
another EMT or driver. This will alleviate others from rapid
responding and putting their lives in danger, when it is not
needed. Just a thought....what do you all think? Of course,
this would only be in affect when station 50 is not "on duty..."
#Post#: 123--------------------------------------------------
Re: Proposed 911 Dispatch Procedure for Pine Grove Area
By: carlamcbee Date: December 6, 2011, 2:54 pm
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Thats a good idea Serena. I agree that we don't want responders
rushing to the scene if they don't need to. They can even come
and assist but they can slow their response to a more safe mode.
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