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#Post#: 302--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCR - Paradise ATTACK DISCUSSION
DIR By: Victoreno
Date: April 18, 2013, 3:53 pm
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For firefights: Only S2M and S2RP, this still is a Serious
Roleplay server, not DarkRP. If you have any suggestions which
merely include S2M and S2RP, sure.
There were 5 NCRs and 5 Raiders, both factions had more IC
people on their sides, so what's the problem exactly?
I also heard other complaints about me how I am so bad at
managing; I played on both, first NCR for a little while, then
raider until death. I just said that the assault on Paradise was
totally legitimate (which it was) but others still seem to need
to whine about things and spam OOC chat even after several
warnings. It is not my fault when the participators cannot play
for longer than ten minutes before whining how something is not
100% perfect for them and their characters instead of simply
accepting and dealing with the situation as it is.
#Post#: 304--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCR - Paradise ATTACK DISCUSSION
DIR By: Renegade
Date: April 18, 2013, 4:01 pm
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Vic, this is mathematically and logistically legit. However
there is more to it.
It's like saying, it was a fair fight as the 1000 persians
fought off the 1000 romans in a battlefield. While not paying
attention to what weapons or tactical maneouvers they were
using. It's like the same thing.
From my perspective, it went like this.
It went like this, me and the other three went and knocked that
chick out. We were standing behind thick Stone wall who clearly
hid us. Shaun blames me for using "OP" powers to find him when
clearly he was standing upon a fucking hill, making him very
easy to spot.
Vic said in the fourth or something post, that we had to wait
for the NCR to commit an action, right? Well, I see no reason
though. As they were standing way too far and clearly did not
see us yet. If there was anyone who used OP powers to attack us,
was Shaun. Some people even started to metagame. The moment they
saw some bad guys wanting to create a concept, they immediately
decided to attack. Given us no chance to do anything. It was a
huge metagame as they used their OOC knowledge and put it in IC.
They said that we started to LOLrun. LOLrun from what? We did
not run away from anything, as there was nothing to run away
from. We just went to Paradise normally. Vic said as well that
we had to /me where we were going. However, I see no reason to.
As people do this shit all the time, lolrun and scavenge. But
that is okay, right?
However, if it was no LOLrun. We would get attacked, sprayed and
sniped all over. For what reason? Yes, for looking like
criminals. Very clever NCR. Let's take out some guys who looks
like criminals just because they look like it who apparently
carries a woman. Let's interfere with their private busniess, oh
wait. Let's do it by attacking them and not try to talk to them
asking what is going on.
Then, I get blamed by Vic for trying to DDoS Shaun? Which I
persume that Shaun blamed me for as he seems to be the one
behind the scenes.
Truthfully, I have never used /observer for any purpose to
metagame or anything. Yet I get all constant shit from Shaun. I
get told that I am trying to hand out weapons to regular users,
using the vendor shop. Basically, Shaun is fucking on to me. For
what? What is it that I am doing, that is soo wrong?
I get constantly harrassed by him, blamed for shit that I have
not done and what did I do to him? Nothing.
Truthfully, I don't give a shit what happens to this event
stuff, the only reason I do this is because I want Shaun to quit
with his fucking act. The staff has done nothing about it, yet
my complains about being harassed by Shaun all the time. So, I
decided to put one last effort into this. To make it right and
settle this once and for all.
Stop Shaun from doing this shit to me.
#Post#: 306--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCR - Paradise ATTACK DISCUSSION
DIR By: Grike
Date: April 18, 2013, 4:12 pm
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I did /me going to the Paradise.
#Post#: 308--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCR - Paradise ATTACK DISCUSSION
DIR By: Comrade_Shaun
Date: April 18, 2013, 5:21 pm
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Holy shit Renegade, even when I don't even talk to you on the
server you still say that I give you shit.
#Post#: 309--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCR - Paradise ATTACK DISCUSSION
DIR By: Altairp
Date: April 19, 2013, 5:54 am
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Btw, why we are arguing? To void this? Or just to argue?
#Post#: 311--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCR - Paradise ATTACK DISCUSSION
DIR By: Victoreno
Date: April 19, 2013, 7:52 am
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"It's like saying, it was a fair fight as the 1000 persians
fought off the 1000 romans in a battlefield. While not paying
attention to what weapons or tactical maneouvers they were
using. It's like the same thing."
Who said it was a fair fight ICly? Of course, the raiders have
equipment and the NCR also is low on equipment because of the
lack of many caravans due to the Legion but the same problems
apply to the raiders. It was just as fair as it was ICly.
"We were standing behind thick Stone wall who clearly hid us."
Apparently, he saw you because even without using /observer
Shaun spotted you and called some troopers and a waster.
"Vic said in the fourth or something post, that we had to wait
for the NCR to commit an action, right? Well, I see no reason
though. As they were standing way too far and clearly did not
see us yet."
Even if the distance between you and the NCR is too far to hear
the /me's without zoom they still can do an action towards you,
for instance, if they would try to snipe and suspress you it
would take just a little moment ICly while you OOCly already are
at Paradise.
"We would get attacked, sprayed and sniped all over. For what
reason? Yes, for looking like criminals."
According to some people they also saw you pointing a gun (I
heard doubts about this but I have to state this)/ obviously
mugged the female. And you don't really think that anyone is
going to believe you that you just wanted to bring a girl to
Paradise for medical treatment, do you?
"Then, I get blamed by Vic for trying to DDoS Shaun? Which I
persume that Shaun blamed me for as he seems to be the one
behind the scenes."
I never blamed you nor did Shaun, he just said that he
constantly gets DDoS'd as something he would interrupt in
happens ICly, in this case it was you and Grike for the second
time, therefore I just asked you, it was not supposed to sound
like "blaming".
"I did /me going to the Paradise."
*Clap* Now you got the point of RP...
#Post#: 313--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCR - Paradise ATTACK DISCUSSION
DIR By: Grike
Date: April 19, 2013, 7:56 am
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Then why did you say we lolran while we actually /me'd?
#Post#: 314--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCR - Paradise ATTACK DISCUSSION
DIR By: Victoreno
Date: April 19, 2013, 8:02 am
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Because "roleplay" in Serious Roleplay does not only mean do a
proper /me but also obey the rules of Power Gaming (for this
example).
#Post#: 315--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCR - Paradise ATTACK DISCUSSION
DIR By: Grike
Date: April 19, 2013, 8:07 am
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You didnt even move when we were at Paradise.
#Post#: 316--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCR - Paradise ATTACK DISCUSSION
DIR By: Birf
Date: April 19, 2013, 8:10 am
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According to some people they also saw you pointing a gun (I
heard doubts about this but I have to state this)/ obviously
mugged the female. And you don't really think that anyone is
going to believe you that you just wanted to bring a girl to
Paradise for medical treatment, do you?
We never raised our weapons, until the NCR attacked Paradise.
It's alright and we voided it. We're not arguing to argue or
whatever. Vic, you said you wanted big battles to be S2RP/S2M,
that's fine aswell. Please add "Combat" to the server rules,
then.
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