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       #Post#: 451--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Mike
       Date: July 28, 2014, 11:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mike link ---
       >
       > Though I also do agree that if someone does something wrong,
       they should serve it, without the possibility of having it
       lessened, considering they broke a rule. Also, yes, it would be
       more practical and efficient. For this reason, we can allow the
       players to have the option of whether or not to go to court,
       almost taking a risk at your punishment. For example, the staff
       member can say something like, "your punishment is a 48 hour
       ban. Would you like to accept this, or take it to court?" By
       accepting it, they serve the 48 hours, and that's the end of it.
       By taking it to court, the jury and judge could possibly find
       the defendant to deserve even MORE time, and give him a full
       week of being banned. But then again, they could find him to
       deserve only 24 hours too. This way it's a risk at what you do,
       therefore less players will choose to go, bringing down the mass
       of people who're being reported to go through a while court
       case.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I still stand by this, as I do like the court idea, as well as I
       do understand that it may not be the worlds most efficient
       thing, and not all players being punished will want to go
       through it.
       #Post#: 452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: July 28, 2014, 11:08 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mike link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Mike link=topic=40.msg424#msg424
       date=1406599034]
       > Though I also do agree that if someone does something wrong,
       they should serve it, without the possibility of having it
       lessened, considering they broke a rule. Also, yes, it would be
       more practical and efficient. For this reason, we can allow the
       players to have the option of whether or not to go to court,
       almost taking a risk at your punishment. For example, the staff
       member can say something like, "your punishment is a 48 hour
       ban. Would you like to accept this, or take it to court?" By
       accepting it, they serve the 48 hours, and that's the end of it.
       By taking it to court, the jury and judge could possibly find
       the defendant to deserve even MORE time, and give him a full
       week of being banned. But then again, they could find him to
       deserve only 24 hours too. This way it's a risk at what you do,
       therefore less players will choose to go, bringing down the mass
       of people who're being reported to go through a while court
       case.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I still stand by this, as I do like the court idea, as well as I
       do understand that it may not be the worlds most efficient
       thing, and not all players being punished will want to go
       through it.
       [/quote]
       I think they should be punished and could protest their ban on
       an unban section. I'll stand by this.
       #Post#: 453--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Mike
       Date: July 28, 2014, 11:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: Luke link ---
       > I think they should be punished and could protest their ban on
       an unban section. I'll stand by this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Fair enough.
       #Post#: 454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Space
       Date: July 28, 2014, 11:15 pm
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       This is actually a really interesting idea.  I'm surprised other
       servers haven't come up with or implemented this.
       #Post#: 455--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Mike
       Date: July 28, 2014, 11:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: Space link ---
       >
       > This is actually a really interesting idea.  I'm surprised
       other servers haven't come up with or implemented this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yet another supporting member. If the community stands behind
       it, I stand behind it.
       #Post#: 470--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: July 29, 2014, 7:42 am
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       --- Quote from: Andrew link ---
       >
       > Because the player is being punished! I've already said that
       they would try and explain to anyone about the player
       themselves.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As I said before  I do not care what type of person it is. If
       you break a rule you must get a punishment. There is a reason
       why there are rules. I can make a lot of friends, then break the
       rules whenever I want and have my friends say I'm a good person,
       then not get punished with this suggestion.
       I have some key points:
       You were talking about evidence, how would you show pictures
       in-game? You cannot, you need the forums for that.
       This takes way too many staff members. If there is only a
       moderator, and an admin online, and there was court, then if
       something happened and someone needed an admin, than the admin
       would have to pause the court and go to him.
       Since you cannot show evidence, then the only thing you can do
       is argue, which you can do on the forums. So as I said before, I
       would suggest an unban section on the forums, because you don't
       have to be by a computer to try to unban yourself. Your friends
       don't have to be on the same time as you, as the post on forums
       don't disappear.
       #Post#: 471--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: July 29, 2014, 7:52 am
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       --- Quote from: Mike link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Space link=topic=40.msg454#msg454
       date=1406607332]
       > This is actually a really interesting idea.  I'm surprised
       other servers haven't come up with or implemented this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yet another supporting member. If the community stands behind
       it, I stand behind it.
       [/quote]
       So you are a front runner? You should stand behind this idea
       because you like it, not just because your friends want it.
       #Post#: 482--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Mike
       Date: July 29, 2014, 11:32 am
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       --- Quote from: Luke link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Andrew link=topic=40.msg447#msg447
       date=1406605313]
       > Because the player is being punished! I've already said that
       they would try and explain to anyone about the player
       themselves.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As I said before  I do not care what type of person it is. If
       you break a rule you must get a punishment. There is a reason
       why there are rules. I can make a lot of friends, then break the
       rules whenever I want and have my friends say I'm a good person,
       then not get punished with this suggestion.
       I have some key points:
       You were talking about evidence, how would you show pictures
       in-game? You cannot, you need the forums for that.
       This takes way too many staff members. If there is only a
       moderator, and an admin online, and there was court, then if
       something happened and someone needed an admin, than the admin
       would have to pause the court and go to him.
       Since you cannot show evidence, then the only thing you can do
       is argue, which you can do on the forums. So as I said before, I
       would suggest an unban section on the forums, because you don't
       have to be by a computer to try to unban yourself. Your friends
       don't have to be on the same time as you, as the post on forums
       don't disappear.
       [/quote]
       Wow I can't lie, some very good points are made in here.
       Extremely good.
       #Post#: 483--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Mike
       Date: July 29, 2014, 11:36 am
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       --- Quote from: Luke link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Mike link=topic=40.msg455#msg455
       date=1406607493]
       > [quote author=Space link=topic=40.msg454#msg454
       date=1406607332]
       > This is actually a really interesting idea.  I'm surprised
       other servers haven't come up with or implemented this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yet another supporting member. If the community stands behind
       it, I stand behind it.
       [/quote]
       So you are a front runner? You should stand behind this idea
       because you like it, not just because your friends want it.
       [/quote]
       Power to the players, listen to the community. This game dies
       without players, like the United States of America would die
       without people. Paper currency is strongest when backed by gold,
       as this game is strongest when backed by players.
       If the community likes it, if the community wants it, if the
       community is willing to fight for it, consideration and
       reasoning must be taken by the staff, no matter the suggestion.
       I also DO like this idea, and personally DO back it, like I said
       before, though you're also making some great points.
       #Post#: 494--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: July 29, 2014, 12:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mike link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Luke link=topic=40.msg471#msg471
       date=1406638325]
       > [quote author=Mike link=topic=40.msg455#msg455
       date=1406607493]
       > [quote author=Space link=topic=40.msg454#msg454
       date=1406607332]
       > This is actually a really interesting idea.  I'm surprised
       other servers haven't come up with or implemented this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yet another supporting member. If the community stands behind
       it, I stand behind it.
       [/quote]
       So you are a front runner? You should stand behind this idea
       because you like it, not just because your friends want it.
       [/quote]
       Power to the players, listen to the community. This game dies
       without players, like the United States of America would die
       without people. Paper currency is strongest when backed by gold,
       as this game is strongest when backed by players.
       If the community likes it, if the community wants it, if the
       community is willing to fight for it, consideration and
       reasoning must be taken by the staff, no matter the suggestion.
       I also DO like this idea, and personally DO back it, like I said
       before, though you're also making some great points.
       [/quote]
       I meant that you should like the idea because you like it, not
       your friends.
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