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       #Post#: 433--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Mike
       Date: July 28, 2014, 9:41 pm
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       --- Quote from: Andrew link ---
       >
       > I'm pretty sure you didn't read that correctly.. I'll try and
       explain it to you.
       > 2 Topics per ban:
       > ...one for admins/mods, and the banned player to discuss the
       ban.
       > ...and the other for the friends/supporters of the banned
       player.
       > There will be the original punishment by the staff posted at
       the top of the second topic (having been started by a staff
       member) so the players can now reply with their opinions while
       not bothering the staff.
       > The staff will have a vote poll on their topic of the banned
       player choosing the punishments provided in the comments, and
       they shall decide upon a punishment through the vote poll
       option.
       > Better?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If we did the forums-version, this makes sense. Though, the
       in-game one adds a sense of fun, as in the end, it is a game.
       #Post#: 438--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: July 28, 2014, 9:52 pm
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       How about this: There is an unban section of the forums. The
       banned player fills out a template.  The template should be:
       Your name, Banned by, Reason, Time banned for, involved, What
       happened, Why we should unban or lessen your ban time? You fill
       it out. for example: Name: Luke, Banned by: Mod H,
       Reason:Disrespecting staff when warned, Time banned for: 42
       hours, Involved: Andrew, Mike, and Mod H, What happen: Well Mod
       H called Andrew a good for nothing organism. I then told him to
       back off, you cannot insult him. He then told me to fall off a
       cliff. I told him to shut up, and go to jail. He then warned me
       to shut up. I said go fall of a bridge. He then banned me. Why
       should we unban or lessen your ban: I believe you should unban
       me because I got very mad at him and he was insulting and
       disrespecting a player. I think this is unfair because I did
       what he did to my friend. He insulted him, so I insulted him. I
       will make an admin abuse post later. Please unban me!
       Mod H- He was giving me lip, so I called him that!
       Andrew-I asked how his day was, then he told me i was a good for
       nothing organism!
       Gara Noob- Mod H insulted a player. Since he is an Admin you
       followed his example by insulting him, but the rules are: Do not
       disrespect staff. Two wrongs do not make a right. Player still
       failed to follow rules but followed admins as an example. Ban
       lessened to 5 hours.
       Something like this.
       #Post#: 439--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: July 28, 2014, 9:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mike link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Andrew link=topic=40.msg432#msg432
       date=1406601088]
       > I'm pretty sure you didn't read that correctly.. I'll try and
       explain it to you.
       > 2 Topics per ban:
       > ...one for admins/mods, and the banned player to discuss the
       ban.
       > ...and the other for the friends/supporters of the banned
       player.
       > There will be the original punishment by the staff posted at
       the top of the second topic (having been started by a staff
       member) so the players can now reply with their opinions while
       not bothering the staff.
       > The staff will have a vote poll on their topic of the banned
       player choosing the punishments provided in the comments, and
       they shall decide upon a punishment through the vote poll
       option.
       > Better?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If we did the forums-version, this makes sense. Though, the
       in-game one adds a sense of fun, as in the end, it is a game.
       [/quote]
       If you break a rule it should not be fun. Breaking a rule is a
       serious thing. Breaking the rules can ruin another players
       experience.
       #Post#: 440--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Andrew
       Date: July 28, 2014, 10:18 pm
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       Luke you're being very unjust here. I'm trying to bring the
       perspective of someone from in-game onto the forums...
       Not every case will the the exact same, or along with certain
       situations posted on the rules.
       Also, why not have two topics per punishment? People generally
       like to talk about a players punishment, and a second topic next
       to the staffs topic discussing the punishment. Why don't you
       have any leeway with your idea of an unbanning thread? I've
       literally gone completely stray from the courthouse idea just to
       please your needs for unbanning to be on the forums. Also, two
       topics per punishment keep the unimportant replies from
       interfering with the staff replies...
       #Post#: 441--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: July 28, 2014, 10:21 pm
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       I think one topic for Unban, and for all the people who were not
       involved, can go talk over skype, or talk in game.
       #Post#: 445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Andrew
       Date: July 28, 2014, 10:28 pm
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       Players might not like to use skype or give it out, and
       sometimes people aren't online at the same times...
       #Post#: 446--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: July 28, 2014, 10:40 pm
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       If the players weren't on at the same time, then how do they
       know what really happen?
       #Post#: 447--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Andrew
       Date: July 28, 2014, 10:41 pm
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       Because the player is being punished! I've already said that
       they would try and explain to anyone about the player
       themselves.
       #Post#: 449--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Mike
       Date: July 28, 2014, 10:48 pm
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       We've completely moved off the path of the original suggestion.
       Please discuss the suggestion as it is, forget about the
       possible forums section. If we do decide to go with that, we
       will discuss the exact parameters when we come to it. For now,
       this should be a conversation about the court house, not the
       possible forums section.
       #Post#: 450--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Order In The Court!!!
   DIR By: Luke
       Date: July 28, 2014, 10:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mike link ---
       >
       > We've completely moved off the path of the original
       suggestion. Please discuss the suggestion as it is, forget about
       the possible forums section. If we do decide to go with that, we
       will discuss the exact parameters when we come to it. For now,
       this should be a conversation about the court house, not the
       possible forums section.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       With that, -support.
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