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       #Post#: 914--------------------------------------------------
       Shane's Descent into Madness
   DIR By: Rapscallion
       Date: April 26, 2016, 6:52 pm
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       Shane was always prepared to do what he thought was the "right
       thing" but that line of thinking comes with a price, and a prime
       example was when Shane sacrificed Otis so he could escape the
       walkers with the medical supplies Hershel needed to save Carl's
       life.
       after sacrificing Otis, Shane's mental health began to
       deteriorate, until finally he'd try one last time to kill Rick
       so he could keep Rick's family for himself.
       #Post#: 917--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shane's Descent into Madness
   DIR By: Ickray_Imesgray
       Date: April 26, 2016, 11:02 pm
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       >
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       > Shane was always prepared to do what he thought was the "right
       thing" but that line of thinking comes with a price, and a prime
       example was when Shane sacrificed Otis so he could escape the
       walkers with the medical supplies Hershel needed to save Carl's
       life.
       >
       > after sacrificing Otis, Shane's mental health began to
       deteriorate, until finally he'd try one last time to kill Rick
       so he could keep Rick's family for himself.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He went from Shane to Inshane  :D
       #Post#: 918--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shane's Descent into Madness
   DIR By: Rapscallion
       Date: April 26, 2016, 11:10 pm
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       If Shane really wanted to sell Otis' sacrificing himself to save
       Carl, he should've thrown away Rick's Colt Python and his Glock
       pistol.
       And remember that Daryl was the one who pointed that discrepancy
       out in Shane's story.   ;D
       #Post#: 920--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shane's Descent into Madness
   DIR By: Ickray_Imesgray
       Date: April 26, 2016, 11:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: Rapscallion link ---
       >
       > If Shane really wanted to sell Otis' sacrificing himself to
       save Carl, he should've thrown away Rick's Colt Python and his
       Glock pistol.
       >
       > And remember that Daryl was the one who pointed that
       discrepancy out in Shane's story.   ;D
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Shane probably wasn't counting on Daryl or anyone else figuring
       out what he'd really done, but Daryl surprised him and me too.
       #Post#: 921--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shane's Descent into Madness
   DIR By: Rapscallion
       Date: April 27, 2016, 4:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ickray_Imesgray link ---
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       > Shane probably wasn't counting on Daryl or anyone else
       figuring out what he'd really done, but Daryl surprised him and
       me too.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Any comments on Rick keeping the truth about Otis' death a
       secret from Hershel so the group, and a pregnant Lori, could
       stay on the Greene farm?  Did Officer Friendly do the right
       thing?
       #Post#: 924--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shane's Descent into Madness
   DIR By: Ickray_Imesgray
       Date: April 27, 2016, 8:24 pm
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       > [quote author=Ickray_Imesgray link=topic=229.msg920#msg920
       date=1461731921]
       > Shane probably wasn't counting on Daryl or anyone else
       figuring out what he'd really done, but Daryl surprised him and
       me too.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Any comments on Rick keeping the truth about Otis' death a
       secret from Hershel so the group, and a pregnant Lori, could
       stay on the Greene farm?  Did Officer Friendly do the right
       thing?
       [/quote]
       As a Rick fan, no he didn't do the right thing. And it's obvious
       he knew Hershel would probably kick them off his land for that.
       Rick was desperate and desperation makes people selfish.
       #Post#: 926--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shane's Descent into Madness
   DIR By: Rapscallion
       Date: April 27, 2016, 9:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ickray_Imesgray link ---
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       > [quote author=Rapscallion link=topic=229.msg921#msg921
       date=1461791845]
       > Any comments on Rick keeping the truth about Otis' death a
       secret from Hershel so the group, and a pregnant Lori, could
       stay on the Greene farm?  Did Officer Friendly do the right
       thing?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As a Rick fan, no he didn't do the right thing. And it's obvious
       he knew Hershel would probably kick them off his land for that.
       Rick was desperate and desperation makes people selfish.
       [/quote]
       You're right off course, that Rick had to think about a pregnant
       Lori, and the group, instead of telling Hershel that Shane
       sacrificed Otis.  But I wonder if Hershel would've ordered only
       Shane off his land, because after the barn massacre, the only
       person Hershel singled out was Shane.
       #Post#: 928--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shane's Descent into Madness
   DIR By: Ickray_Imesgray
       Date: April 28, 2016, 1:02 am
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       --- Quote from: Rapscallion link ---
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       > [quote author=Ickray_Imesgray link=topic=229.msg924#msg924
       date=1461806665]
       > [quote author=Rapscallion link=topic=229.msg921#msg921
       date=1461791845]
       > Any comments on Rick keeping the truth about Otis' death a
       secret from Hershel so the group, and a pregnant Lori, could
       stay on the Greene farm?  Did Officer Friendly do the right
       thing?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As a Rick fan, no he didn't do the right thing. And it's obvious
       he knew Hershel would probably kick them off his land for that.
       Rick was desperate and desperation makes people selfish.
       [/quote]
       You're right off course, that Rick had to think about a pregnant
       Lori, and the group, instead of telling Hershel that Shane
       sacrificed Otis.  But I wonder if Hershel would've ordered only
       Shane off his land, because after the barn massacre, the only
       person Hershel singled out was Shane.
       [/quote]
       You bring up another good point. Hershel definitely didn't seem
       to like Shane much at all, and now that I think about it, maybe
       Hershel didn't even buy Shane's story either but just kept up
       like he did? Hershel wasn't a fool.
       #Post#: 931--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shane's Descent into Madness
   DIR By: Rapscallion
       Date: April 28, 2016, 4:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ickray_Imesgray link ---
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       > You bring up another good point. Hershel definitely didn't
       seem to like Shane much at all, and now that I think about it,
       maybe Hershel didn't even buy Shane's story either but just kept
       up like he did? Hershel wasn't a fool.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hershel bought Shane's story.
       Otis knew guns, and Otis and Shane took his truck on the med
       run.  Hershel likely thought that Otis kept a gun in the glove
       compartment and used it to cover Shane.
       #Post#: 933--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shane's Descent into Madness
   DIR By: Ickray_Imesgray
       Date: April 28, 2016, 7:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: Rapscallion link ---
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       > [quote author=Ickray_Imesgray link=topic=229.msg928#msg928
       date=1461823338]
       > You bring up another good point. Hershel definitely didn't
       seem to like Shane much at all, and now that I think about it,
       maybe Hershel didn't even buy Shane's story either but just kept
       up like he did? Hershel wasn't a fool.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hershel bought Shane's story.
       Otis knew guns, and Otis and Shane took his truck on the med
       run.  Hershel likely thought that Otis kept a gun in the glove
       compartment and used it to cover Shane.
       [/quote]
       Then here's another question. Do you think if Rick told Hershel
       the truth later at the prison, he would've forgiven him?
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