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A Good Ending for the Series
By: Rapscallion Date: April 18, 2016, 3:01 pm
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This might not be a popular opinion, but after I watched the
season 5 finale "Conquer", I thought it would've been a good
ending for the series.
You have Rick interrupt Deanna's town meeting by throwing a dead
walker at her feet, which makes Deanna and the Alexandrians
confront the reality that they have to deal with; Rick promises
to teach them how to defend themselves against the walkers.
Pete the Porch Dick appears and kills Reg, which turned out to
be one of the most shocking moments on the show. Deanna finally
realizes its a kill or be killed world and tells Rick to "Do
it", and he executes Pete.
A moment later Rick is reunited with Morgan, the man who saved
him when he awoke from his coma.
Outside the walls, Nicholas shoots Glenn, giving him the clichéd
bullet to the shoulder. Glenn also miraculously survives an an
attack by three walkers. Glenn catches up with Nicholas and has
the chance to kill execute him, but Glenn's humanity won't allow
him to do it, and they return to Alexandria.
Nobody in the group died, and they've found a place to call
home. For such a grim show, if they had to end the series, this
would've been a positive note to end it.
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Re: A Good Ending for the Series
By: Ickray_Imesgray Date: April 18, 2016, 4:11 pm
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[quote author=Rapscallion link=topic=226.msg874#msg874
date=1461009674]
This might not be a popular opinion, but after I watched the
season 5 finale "Conquer", I thought it would've been a good
ending for the series.
You have Rick interrupt Deanna's town meeting by throwing a dead
walker at her feet, which makes Deanna and the Alexandrians
confront the reality that they have to deal with; Rick promises
to teach them how to defend themselves against the walkers.
Pete the Porch Dick appears and kills Reg, which turned out to
be one of the most shocking moments on the show. Deanna finally
realizes its a kill or be killed world and tells Rick to "Do
it", and he executes Pete.
A moment later Rick is reunited with Morgan, the man who saved
him when he awoke from his coma.
Outside the walls, Nicholas shoots Glenn, giving him the clichéd
bullet to the shoulder. Glenn also miraculously survives an an
attack by three walkers. Glenn catches up with Nicholas and has
the chance to kill execute him, but Glenn's humanity won't allow
him to do it, and they return to Alexandria.
Nobody in the group died, and they've found a place to call
home. For such a grim show, if they had to end the series, this
would've been a positive note to end it.
[/quote]
I certainly see where you're coming from as far as this being a
good place to end the series but I have to disagree. This is
because so many characters have unfinished business and other
things they haven't faced or dealt with.
But in terms of the poor quality of story telling in Season 6,
well then in that case it's a different story. Overall I didn't
hate everything which is why I'm still holding out hope for
Season 7.
But with TWD ending on this episode, it just wouldn't work and a
lot of fans would be disappointed because they didn't get to see
the other story arcs from the comic. Conquer was a good place
for a cliff hanger because you have Rick who just shot Pete and
he looks up and there's Morgan, the one person he didn't think
he'd ever see again. So again that would be a bad place to just
end things because we wouldn't be able to see how Morgan and
Rick would interact after that.
Then there's also the Jessie storyline, that couldn't be left
ambiguous either, because we need to know what happens with that
connection, cause it sure wasn't a relationship. Then there's
Carol who hasn't taken the time to deal with everything that's
happened and continues to hide in Alexandria and also hide from
Daryl. I could mention many other things, but I'm going to stop
right there.
I think a good way to end the series would be after Negan is
defeated and jailed, then two years later we see an older Rick
with Alexandria rebuilt and all the characters living their
lives with the three communities working together to rebuild
civilization. That to me would be a good stopping point for the
series. Cause I honestly don't know how well Alpha and the
Whisperers will translate to screen.
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Re: A Good Ending for the Series
By: Rapscallion Date: April 18, 2016, 7:41 pm
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[quote author=Ickray_Imesgray link=topic=226.msg875#msg875
date=1461013893]
[glow=red,2,300]I certainly see where you're coming from as far
as this being a good place to end the series but I have to
disagree.[/glow] This is because so many characters have
unfinished business and other things they haven't faced or dealt
with.
[glow=red,2,300]But in terms of the poor quality of story
telling in Season 6, well then in that case it's a different
story. Overall I didn't hate everything which is why I'm still
holding out hope for Season 7.
[/glow]
But with TWD ending on this episode, [glow=red,2,300]it just
wouldn't work and a lot of fans would be disappointed because
they didn't get to see the other story arcs from the comic.
[/glow]Conquer was a good place for a cliff hanger because you
have Rick who just shot Pete and he looks up and there's Morgan,
the one person he didn't think he'd ever see again. So again
that would be a bad place to just end things because we wouldn't
be able to see how Morgan and Rick would interact after that.
[glow=red,2,300]Then there's also the Jessie storyline[/glow],
that couldn't be left ambiguous either, because we need to know
what happens with that connection, cause it sure wasn't a
relationship. [glow=red,2,300]Then there's Carol who hasn't
taken the time to deal with everything that's happened and
continues to hide in Alexandria and also hide from Daryl.
[/glow]I could mention many other things, but I'm going to stop
right there.
[glow=red,2,300]I think a good way to end the series would be
after Negan is defeated and jailed, then two years later we see
an older Rick with Alexandria rebuilt and all the characters
living their lives with the three communities working together
to rebuild civilization.[/glow] That to me would be a good
stopping point for the series. Cause I honestly don't know how
well Alpha and the Whisperers will translate to screen.
[/quote]
Ricky, thanks for saying you can see where I'm coming from with
this. I know a hypothetical ending to the series with "Conquer"
would infuriate the fans. I'm just speculating if AMC cancelled
the show due to budget, special effects, controversy, or
disagreements with Robert Kirkman. Yes, we don't get to see
Negan, but the group has found a home and they will survive.
I was looking forward to season 6 (as I had with previous
seasons) but I was let down as the season wore on. You're right
that season 6 feels like a different show when compared to the
previous seasons. I don't have much enthusiasm for season 7.
You're right that the Jessie storyline would be unresolved in
the scenario. IMO this was one of the signs that the show was
changing into what we got in season 6. On the other forum I
hypothesized a scenario where Jessie goes to find Rick, but runs
into Pete instead, who kills her and throws her decapitated head
at Rick's feet, and goes on to kill Reg before he's overpowered
and killed.
Carol had remorse for her killings, but in season 6 it was taken
to another level. Carol's change in character is one of the
controversies of season 6, so if the series ended in "Conquer",
the character the fans grew to love would still be intact.
Also, we had no idea Morgan was going to be a pacifist. Yeah,
he spared the Wolves' lives, but we didn't expect the Gandhi
shtick in season 6. At the end of "Conquer," the fans were
happy that Rick and Morgan were reunited.
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