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       #Post#: 601--------------------------------------------------
       After the Lotus series.....
       By: guybo Date: October 25, 2015, 1:33 pm
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       It's a few months away but it's good to discuss it now.  What do
       we race after the Lotus series?
       -AC or another sim?
       -Tracks
       -format?
       -Cars
       -modern?
       -historic?
       -single make or multi-car (single class)?
       I like this format, I'd like to move on to pCars if everyone is
       on board, otherwise I'll stick with AC.  There are some good
       modded tracks coming out, we have a lot to pick from.  I want to
       use my clutch and shifter!  Let's pick a car that does not have
       flappy paddles or sequential, let's go back in time a few years.
       
       #Post#: 603--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the Lotus series.....
       By: Chad Brown Date: October 25, 2015, 1:54 pm
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       Well for me the choice is only between AC of rF2. I dont own
       PCars and have no intention of purchasing it. That's not to say
       that the group can't move to PCars, I simply won't be making the
       move. I also think we could probably run multiple sims anyways.
       As far as the next car used; I have been having fun with the Eve
       and Spark in rF2 on Durge's server. The car is a handful but not
       overly difficult to drive. Maybe we take a classic series from
       that era and pick out 5 tracks run in their real life series,
       recreate the series in mini. It could probably be done in either
       rF2 or AC.
       #Post#: 604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the Lotus series.....
       By: guybo Date: October 26, 2015, 7:44 am
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       I like that idea, but in AC.  We'd have to find an appropriate
       car for it.  But I did like the Spark and Eve in rF2
       #Post#: 605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the Lotus series.....
       By: Tig_green Date: October 26, 2015, 10:00 am
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       I will also stick to AC and rf2. Is there any good historic
       content to AC? Don't remember too many historic tracks or cars.
       I would assume historic stuff is more popular among rf2 players
       than with AC players.
       #Post#: 606--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the Lotus series.....
       By: Chad Brown Date: October 26, 2015, 2:04 pm
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       The Lotus Type 49 is the classic open wheeler in AC that is
       similar to the Eve and Spark in rF2.
  HTML http://www.assettocorsa.net/classic-team-lotus-type-49/
       The 1967 Gran Prix season had 11 races on 11 different tracks.
       They are in order:
       Kyalami
       Monaco
       Zandvoort
       Spa-Francorchamps
       Le Mans (Bugatti Circuit)
       Nurburgring
       Mosport Park
       Monza
       Watkins Glen
       Magdelena Mixhuca
       We can pick the top 4-5 tracks to use for the series. If
       possible the classic tracks would be fantastic. I only know of
       the classic 1966 Monza track as stock in AC so the rest of the
       classic version tracks would have to be modded material.
       Otherwise we can use the modern equivalents in AC.
       I looked over at Race department and found a 1988 version of
       Monaco. It has not been tested yet but has been getting good
       reviews.
       #Post#: 608--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the Lotus series.....
       By: guybo Date: October 26, 2015, 5:07 pm
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       The Lotus 49 is a LOT of car to start off with for open
       wheelers!  I don't know if a full 11 races would work, but we
       could race the ones we could find and mix in the modern
       equivalents like Chad said
       -Some version of Monaco
       -Zandy modern
       -Spa modern or an historic if they have it
       -Nurbs modern
       -Monza 66
       -The Glen
       One major thing I like in AC over rF2 is that they force you to
       use the h-shifter and there's a penalty if you use flappy
       paddles.  One prob with rF2 is that there's a penalty for a
       h-shifter (the h-shifter....) so usually people use paddles
       because there is only the advantage of perfect quick shifts
       every time and NO downside at all.  Plus in rF2 the clutch is a
       joke, in AC you have to use it.
       I like where this is going!  Finally a car that takes skill to
       operate, more than just racing lines and race craft.
       #Post#: 609--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the Lotus series.....
       By: Chad Brown Date: October 26, 2015, 9:13 pm
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       Well on Durges server he does not allow ANY assists. If you
       don't heel toe, or at least lift properly you will spin. It made
       for a very interesting race at Bathurst. I suspect that the same
       will be true in AC. It should be a good series to get people to
       work on their clutch work.
       #Post#: 615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the Lotus series.....
       By: ProtoSpecs Date: November 1, 2015, 8:22 am
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       The Lotus 49 is a nice car. With all aids turned off for realism
       IMO.
       Not sure if a considerably more difficult car like that is good
       for 40 min of (close) racing.
       Only one way to find out I guess..
       TBH I never even tried out every car in AC yet.
       Whatever it's going to be I hope it's not a car that gives a
       (huge) penalty to drivers that have no clutch pedal. (DFGT here)
       Like the Nissan GT3 for instance. Participating in qualifying
       with that car is almost pointless when 100% certain I wont be in
       the top 6 first corner.
       Or worse when on a longer straight.
       Perhaps we could experiment a little with different combinations
       at certain times?
       I bought P-cars yesterday, for less than half the steam price.
       Fun game. But no AC or rF2 beater to me.
       Nor were the graphics much better than AC as I had read.
       Different,   not (obviously) better looking as I expected, but
       the tarmac perhaps, and some more variety with spectators and
       such.
       (Both games run with all on max but shadows and  reflex update.
       Max SMAA instead of FXAA)
       Still I would love to race the Karts in P-cars with some of you
       one day
       
       #Post#: 618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the Lotus series.....
       By: Tig_green Date: November 2, 2015, 3:42 pm
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       I hate heel-and-toe so not sure what to think. I have tried it
       in the past but it has always ended for not having enough energy
       or time to learn it. So for that reason, I'm not sure if I would
       participate in your hardcore season.
       #Post#: 620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: After the Lotus series.....
       By: guybo Date: November 3, 2015, 5:27 am
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       What do you guys think of this?
       12 races in your 2016 career.
       -First 4 are with the Mak-Corp IFS3
  HTML http://mak-corp.com.au/index.php/component/k2/item/65-ifs3-08-v0-62-for-ac
       -Progress to the next 4 races with the Lotus Exos
  HTML http://www.assettocorsa.net/lotus-exos-t125/
       the 4th race would be with the S1 upgrade
       -Then finish your career with 4 races in the retro Lotus 49.
       Each car would be a mini-season and would have a champ.  There
       would be a champ overall also (like we did the points series
       last year)
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