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Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Blackwood Oct 4, 2015
By: guybo Date: October 4, 2015, 4:09 pm
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Race replay- the first 6 mins is the end of the race.....
HTML http://www.mediafire.com/download/qawk8rqqp3xc36p/Blackwood
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Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Blackwood Oct 4, 2015
By: guybo Date: October 4, 2015, 4:15 pm
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Simon and I diced for the entire race from about lap 3 on.
There was a brief time when he made a mistake and faded back,
and I ran alone, but he caught up again. We could not get away
from each other after that! He was faster, but I was ahead. We
did double overtakes at the corner after the straight several
times. He led the battle a few times and after a small bobble I
took it back. On lap 40 he took teh lead and I thought it was a
done deal, but he made a bobble and I took advantage and ended
up winning our battle. It was amazing- even f it was only for
5th place.
Hopefully I'll have better pace for the next race.
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Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Blackwood Oct 4, 2015
By: Chad Brown Date: October 4, 2015, 8:12 pm
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After that amazing Qual time I was feeling pretty confident. We
gridde and I got a great jump on the light. I noticed I was
pulling away from the pack and thought I might actually be able
to get a good gap between me and the rest of the field. Running
in clean air allows that type of lap time. However,that was
short lived as I took the last turn wide in the end of the
second lap. I lost my first place to Proto and then lost second
place to Matt as well. Maurice was directly behind me at this
point and I was fighting hard to keep my position.
After a couple of laps I was able to reel in Matt and overtook
him on the long stretch. I was surprised to see how much the
draft helped when I was close to the leading car.
At this point I was in second place again and that s where I
stayed. I was very very slowly gaining on Proto, however,
Maurice was gaining on me quicker than I was gaining on Proto. I
saw that he overtook Matt and was creeping up on me. I tried to
put him out of my mind as I worked to catch Proto. But soon I
found him hounding my back bumper and before I was able to
defend he had passed me using he same drafting technique I used
on Matt.
Now in third I triewd to keep pace and see if anything
interesting developed. We were all doing similar times and no
ground was being gained. Maurice started to create a gap and I
caught up to Proto eventually. Over the last portion of the race
I had several passing opportunities. Each time it was me
attempting to overtake Proto and going into a corner 2 wide. As
I was the overtaking car and I didn't want to be the cause of a
wreck, I relented each time. Proto, to his credit, gave room in
each attempt. On Lap 41 I had my best overtaking opportunity and
again Proto was able to defend his position. It was tense and
thrilling race.
On the last lap I was able to get close enough to attempt a last
minute pass for second place. It was in the last series of
corners before the checkered flag was to be waved. I was able to
close the gap through a series of late breaking corners and
sheer luck. As we approached the last left hand turn I saw an
opening and went for it. Unfortunately, it resulted in some
contact and I slowed to allow Proto to come around and take the
second place finish he had earned. He tried to stop before the
finish line but I wasn't having it. I also slowed and he crossed
the line before me.
This was a fantastic race. While on track I began to wonder if
this was how professional drivers felt as they clicked off the
miles behind an equally matched foe. While I still prefer rF2 as
my goto Sim. these last two series races have been some of the
closest and most competitive of my time here at VSCR.
A round of applause to all and I hope we get more people on the
grid to add to the excitement.
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Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Blackwood Oct 4, 2015
By: Chad Brown Date: October 4, 2015, 10:59 pm
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BTW. If someone could look at the last corner of the race and
tell me if the move I made would be considered a dive bomb or
not. At the time I made it I felt mostly ok about it but after
the contact I thought it might have been dirty pool and let
Proto come around to have his 2nd place spot back. After
watching the replay a few times I am not so sure it was
anything but a fair attempt at the pass.
Opinions?
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Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Blackwood Oct 4, 2015
By: Tig_green Date: October 5, 2015, 3:16 am
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My quali lap was 4 tenths behind my PB so that was little
dissapointing. My start was pretty ok and I was already 2nd
after 5 laps. After that I soon realized I can't match the pace
of Maurice, Chad and Proto after seeing their laptimes. I knew
Proto would be quick because I had a practice eace with him two
weeks ago. Maurice is always quick in the race and makes no
errors. Chad's race pace was a big surprise considering carb day
race. After couple first laps I was pretty much alone, seeing
cars in front of me dissapear little by little until I saw
nothing else than taillights. I made some small mistakes that
were costly when top 3 were going so fast. But even with my
A-game they would have been out of reach. Long race for me when
I realized the reality. But I cam be happy for not spinning or
crashing this time :D I can imagine how fun battles you guys
had.
Will look at the replay when I have time.
ps. there will be a big update to AC next friday. Maybe we could
share our opinions on it after it's released.
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Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Blackwood Oct 4, 2015
By: ProtoSpecs Date: October 5, 2015, 10:38 am
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Here's my opinion on that Chad.
During the race it did feel a bit like a "divebomb" as you
called it. But not really very rough, that's why I wasn't
certain who was going to be second.
I have now looked at the last turn incident from all relevant
viewpoints and in slow motion.
The general rule in racing is that whoever is in front at the
exact turn in point has the right of going.
Taking into account the speed to do that was "reasonable".
But after watching the replay more closely and in slo-mo, it is
now clear to me you were ahead by a few centimetre at the exact
point of turn in. I couldn't see you yet, (look in car view)
, but I knew you were there somewhere very close, yet I had no
time left for another "head turn"
And about "reasonable" .. although you would have approached
the apex (inside of the corner) from another , less favourable
angle without the contact, while doing the same or even a slight
bit more speed, the replay does not show (looking from your in
car view) that it is obvious that you would never have made that
corner. Tricky perhaps, but not (very) obvious.
Assuming all previous talk that the replays shows the very same
thing as what happened during race, which it should,
my conclusion is there was no "divebombing" or "do or die"
manoeuvre. But normal racing practice.
I would have done the same looking from your view point (And
would also have the same feelings after the result)
It's why it's called racing.
BTW I very much doubt this would have happened had I be using 3
monitors.
For now I am going to adjust FOV/seat settings cause I want to
see a bit more around me, see some of the side windows with this
very close racing. Rest assured that this can and will also be
used against you. LOL.
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Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Blackwood Oct 4, 2015
By: Tig_green Date: October 5, 2015, 12:16 pm
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I looked at the replay and I think it was Chad's corner. Imho it
wasn't dive bombing. I usually protect myself in those kind of
situations by taking inside corner. If somebody manage to follow
your tail so good, he is usually faster and you need to put
defence mode on.
AC replay looked pretty good btw, haven't looked much of those.
Especially tires looked nice compared to rf2.
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Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Blackwood Oct 4, 2015
By: ProtoSpecs Date: October 5, 2015, 12:48 pm
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@guybo
"the first 6 mins is the end of the race....."
No its ok , it starts on lap 3-4 something
I just watched it on the couch with a smoke until the end
Using in car view from whoever is third is a great way to watch
the leading trio.
Funny how they all came together at the same time after x laps
without anyone holding anyone up.
After that I watched some of the fights other people were
having.
Nice to see. THX for the upload.
@ Tig. I agree. Remarkable how a replay can give a different
opinion. At the time Chad and me both had the feeling it was a
bit of a divebomb move , Chad even more than me if anything,
but now looking at this... It seems like a "common" racing
incident (at least if you look at it from my in car view) but
if you really had to pick someone to blame looking at the replay
it would have been me, like I already said earlier Chad was
slightly in front at turn in point.
Talking about visibility, I assume we are all using ****pit view
here?
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Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Blackwood Oct 4, 2015
By: Tig_green Date: October 5, 2015, 2:23 pm
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Haha, funny censur. Always in car view. Only single monitor here
so I use virtual mirror (rear mirror only usually)
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Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Blackwood Oct 4, 2015
By: Chad Brown Date: October 5, 2015, 2:39 pm
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Yes, I use Cockpit view on triple monitors. My FOV is fairly
close to the dash so I cant see what is on my right side nearly
as well as what is on my left.
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