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       Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Zandvoort- Sunday Sept 13
       By: not_him_59 Date: September 15, 2015, 10:50 am
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       [quote author=guybo link=topic=61.msg503#msg503 date=1442319191]
       [quote]on lap 8 got caught and dive-bombed by a faster
       driver[/quote]
       I wish I had a replay to review that.  It is canon here- if you
       are faster, WHO CARES- you have to pass when it is safe and
       often times even a faster driver can't pass because they may be
       faster in the wrong parts of the circuit and can't pass safely.
       VSCR does not allow that sort of thing.  Here speed is secondary
       to racing clean at all times.
       If you are faster, you had better pass clean or you had better
       learn to follow a slower car.
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       It is a shame but a common problem, because I'm an old guy I
       tend not to be very fast and often am at the back, although I
       can actually 'race'. There are lots of fast drivers out there,
       but not so many that know how to race. A lot of them wouldn't
       even understand that last sentence ;)
       It is also a shame because when someone does a good clean
       overtake manoever on me I actually admire it! and enjoy it as a
       positive experience. :D
       To be fair, the driver involved did wait until I returned to the
       track and got underway before pulling in behind me and getting
       going himself, and I appreciated that, but it was just a clumsy
       move. Hehe, it took me some time before I realised how important
       patience is in racing, lol, sounds stupid doesn't it.
       #Post#: 506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Zandvoort- Sunday Sept 13
       By: Tig_green Date: September 15, 2015, 1:07 pm
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       I don't remember being involved in such incident (only bumps
       with Chad and Guy). I answered because in theory it could be me
       because I raced in the back also and were quicker than some in
       there. Anyway, I don't think any of us are such a racer that
       would dive bomb other than by accident. I haven't noticed such a
       carachteristic behaviour. And that's a good think. Contacts
       often happen when neither want's to give up in a tight fight,
       but I would assume contacts because of stupid mistakes are among
       us.
       #Post#: 507--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Zandvoort- Sunday Sept 13
       By: guybo Date: September 15, 2015, 5:59 pm
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       Some of us haven't been in a race in a couple months and we may
       be rusty. If he stopped and waited, he acknowledged his mistake
       and made up for it.
       Yeah I was following Chad who was following Tig, then he got too
       much of that curb on the right entering the chicane and Chad got
       through. I thought Tig had lost it and I dove left to avoid but
       it turns our Tig didn't lose it completely and I made contact on
       the way by. I'd like to see that replay, it all happened so
       fast.
       What impressed me most was 5 of us running nose to tail at the
       beginning of the race and it lasted a long time.  I love that
       stuff!
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       Re: Lotus Grand Prix at Zandvoort- Sunday Sept 13
       By: Taner Date: September 19, 2015, 2:47 pm
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       @Not_him
       It was probably me contacted you. But it is not done surely by
       obvious. I got the insight and hold the line tight to complete
       passing but I had to go wide ( of course either car on the
       different line ) so we crossed somewhere at the turn. Your car
       was not seeming in my sight of view ( that is the biggest
       disadvantage of simracing, not to see the sides what is going on
       ). Sorry for that contact. I am ok with any penalty If it is not
       race contact. Sorry again disturbing you.
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