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       #Post#: 7830--------------------------------------------------
       VRC Fun Run  - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       By: Juan Amaya Date: November 20, 2018, 1:41 pm
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       VRC SGT3 Fun Run - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       Sunday, November 25th, 2018
       Practice starts at 16:35 GMT (11:35 ET)
       Note: VRC Admin team would like to use this race to test wet
       conditions in rF2 and determine if it would be possible to have
       an official race under changing weather conditions. The more
       drivers the better.
       Race Details
       - Mod: Studio 397 GT3:
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       - Track: Watkins Glen
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       - Password: tintop
       PW is only going to be on the server the day of the race.
       - 45 minute race with mandatory pit stop. Minimum 2 tires must
       be changed.
       - Start: Formation Lap with Standing Start
       - If you get disconnected, race re-join is activated.
       - Track condition: User Saved Preset. Track rubber will depend
       on number of drivers on track over the course of the practice
       week.
       - Weather: Changing weather.  Rain start and dry towards the end
       of the race.
       - Allowed assists: Only Auto-Clutch.  Drivers may change
       Traction Control and ABS under setup options.
       - Please read: VRC Rules and Regulations
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       Race day Schedule
       - Practice start (60 Mins) 16:35 GMT  (11:35 ET) - Open session
       - Qualifying start (15 Mins) 17:35 GMT (12:35 ET) - Open session
       - Warm Up start (5 Mins) 17:50 GMT (12:50 ET) - Open session
       - Race start (45 Mins) 17:55 GMT (12:55 ET) - Closed session
       Discord Server info:
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       3qjq
       #Post#: 7837--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VRC Fun Run  - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       By: Tom Nasella Date: November 21, 2018, 1:44 pm
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       I should be able to make it.
       #Post#: 7838--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VRC Fun Run  - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       By: Tig_green Date: November 21, 2018, 4:08 pm
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       I will be there too.
       -Matt
       #Post#: 7840--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VRC Fun Run  - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       By: Tom Nasella Date: November 21, 2018, 6:42 pm
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       Did a couple of laps earlier today to check things out.  It was
       raining and I don't see any problem with changing weather
       conditions.  It was fine as far as I was concerned.  My FPS were
       fine and even with the default setup (other than rain tires, of
       course) the car was quite driveable.
       IMO, driving in the rain previously was nigh on to impossible
       but whatever improvements have been made to rF2 have really
       helped.  It's actually quite fun.    (Addendum: I hope I can get
       some setup help for the McLaren.  :))
       #Post#: 7841--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VRC Fun Run  - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       By: Chad Brown Date: November 22, 2018, 7:22 am
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       Another test you can run would be to add 10 ai and see how it
       runs.
       #Post#: 7849--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VRC Fun Run  - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       By: Tig_green Date: November 25, 2018, 2:00 pm
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       There were only 8 of us but it was an interesting event
       nonetheless. Rain and changing conditions in rf2 are really good
       imo and we did not notice any significant performance hit. Only
       thing that bothered me a bit was, that even though there were
       clearly a dry racing line, wet tires continued to be a viable
       option when there were rain spray still coming from back of the
       cars. I was only a second faster during the final few laps with
       s7 tires compared to Juan who stayed on wets for the whole race
       (it stopped raining after the first 15 minutes, dry tires
       started to be a quicker option when there were around 10 minutes
       left of the race).
       All in all I think we need to consider seriously having a race
       in changing conditions in our winter series. I'm not sure if
       there is any way to make the weather random, but if there isn't
       , then only Simon will know how the weather is set up (though I
       think we need to know at least the starting weather, the first 5
       mins or so).
       -Matt
       #Post#: 7850--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VRC Fun Run  - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       By: red bullet Date: November 25, 2018, 2:29 pm
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       My fps were quite low compared to other tracks; I don't know my
       fps of this track in the dry. However I didn't notice any
       downsides to lower fps in the rain.
       I'd say: more like this. It's tricky, especially when it's
       drying.
       #Post#: 7851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VRC Fun Run  - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       By: Tom Nasella Date: November 25, 2018, 3:04 pm
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       Extremely surprised and pleased with how the test race went.  My
       fps were fine and driving in the rain is 1000 times better than
       it used to be in rF2.  Used wets the whole race after seeing
       very little degradation through my first stint which I carried
       quite a bit past half way.  I'd expect that the track would dry
       quicker when we have a larger field of cars.  I see no reason
       not to have a changing weather race now and then.  Looking
       forward to the season.
       #Post#: 7852--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VRC Fun Run  - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       By: Brent Date: November 25, 2018, 4:35 pm
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       Sorry I didn't make the race but here's my two cents.  I've ran
       in races that used the real weather plugin and I was not
       impressed.  One race it began to rain early but not hard.  It
       clouded up when it started to rain but then quickly cleared off
       and the sun was shining so I decided to stay on slicks because
       well it seemed like the rain was over and it was clearing up.
       Next thing I know the sun suddenly goes away the sky turns grey
       and it's a torrential downpour.  I finally go in for wets and
       then guys who went with wets from the beginning didn't seem to
       have much of a loss of speed compared to the slicks anyway.
       Tracks with a bridge over the track over the race surface report
       the track wet line as 0% so you couldn't go by that.  Also the
       mod that we used the rain fell on the windshield like droplets
       of mud making it ridiculously difficult to see and very
       unrealistic.  Going 100mph and the rain droplets don't hardly
       move.  IRL I've raced for hours at a time in the driving rain
       and nothing looked as awful and unpredictable.  There's no storm
       clouds moving in to clue you in to hey it's going to rain.  To
       me RF2 doesn't have weather transitions down to where you can
       make anything more than a lucky guess at tires.  For me I could
       do without the rain transitions.
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       Re: VRC Fun Run  - Watkins Glen - Changing Weather
       By: Chad Brown Date: November 25, 2018, 5:17 pm
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       Im glad the race went well. the weather plugin could be an
       option, but I think knowing a race will have rain is a better
       option for the first few attempts at having weather factors. rF2
       has really improved their weather effects from when it was being
       developed by ISI. Hopefully that will continue.
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