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       #Post#: 4576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Project Cars 2
       By: Chad Brown Date: September 29, 2017, 12:11 pm
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       Don Red (Zracs) and Shutto1 have PC2. They have been doing a lot
       of racing at night when I get home. I've heard them say decent
       things about it but that there are a lot of Crash kiddies and
       people generally learning how to drive. I imagine with the game
       being so new a lot of people who have just discovered sim racing
       are getting their feet wet with it.
       #Post#: 4577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Project Cars 2
       By: Scott Arrington Date: September 29, 2017, 1:37 pm
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       Yeah online in Pcars 2 is a nightmare,too many xbox kids on
       there I believe.And when someone rear ends you its twice as bad
       as RF2,feele like a Semi hit you.There"s also join lag but when
       I was on Simon"s server it was great.It"s a great sim,kinda
       feels like a mix between RF2 and Iracing to me,glad I didn"t get
       rid of it like I initally wanted to.
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       Re: Project Cars 2
       By: Tech G Date: September 29, 2017, 3:55 pm
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       Yeah the online racing was like that with pCars 1 for a while,
       but once it settled down, you end up starting to race with
       people who recognized each other and any knobs soon got kicked
       from the lobby.  Also, due to it's popularity there where a lot
       of great league to choose from, lots of special events too, so
       always plenty to do.
       I am now very nervous to get pCars 2 as I only really have time
       for one sim, and as much as I really enjoy rF2 and this league I
       fear it may just loose out, if the car physics and FFB and now
       good enough, well pCars just has so much more to offer and I
       just don't think Studio 397 will catch up.
       When I look at the Studio 387 forum and to comments from the die
       hards it saddens me.  Times have change and whilst rF2 will
       always have a good core group, they need to attract a much wider
       and more diverse driver base, but I think they will be loosing a
       lot to pCars as the 'good enough' reviews keep coming in.  :(
       #Post#: 4580--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Project Cars 2
       By: Gerry Sweetland Date: September 29, 2017, 4:56 pm
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       [quote author=Scott Arrington link=topic=244.msg4568#msg4568
       date=1506524950]
       Thrustmaster T 300 with Alcantara Ferrari wheel.Not high end
       like Simons or Wyatts wheel but as good or even better than my
       Fanatec CSR elite wheel
       [/quote]
       Scott, I have the same wheel, what Jack Spade file are you
       using?
       I have had PCars2 since the 22nd but just now downloaded the
       Jack Spade files.
       Need to give them a try, just wondering which one you preferred
       generally?
       Thanks,
       Gerry
       #Post#: 4581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Project Cars 2
       By: Scott Arrington Date: September 29, 2017, 5:16 pm
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       Gerry,Simon just sent me these new updated files.Trying the
       Stan Hi Comp right now,feels really good.
       #Post#: 4582--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Project Cars 2
       By: Scott Arrington Date: September 29, 2017, 5:24 pm
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       Hey Tech,
       I"m not so sure RF2 will fall by the wayside because of Pcars2
       just yet.They have alot of new cars coming really soon plus the
       Rain effect which looks as good as Pcars2 Rain does I still
       prefer RF2 for league racing.The graphics are next level
       compared to RF2 and all the other Sim games out there right
       now.It usually takes alot to piss me off but these online races
       in Pcars 2 will get your blood boiling haha.Too bad more people
       don"t have Pcars2 right now,Simon can host with his server and
       we could run some test races.Come on Chris,you must be well off
       living where u do,you can afford 60 bucks,it"s worth it ;D
       #Post#: 4583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Project Cars 2
       By: Tig_green Date: September 29, 2017, 6:23 pm
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       I'm definitely considering but that would require also new gpu
       and some extra ssd.
       #Post#: 4584--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Project Cars 2
       By: Scott Arrington Date: September 29, 2017, 6:40 pm
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       Matt,if you can run RF2 in DX11 u can run Pcars 2.Runs about
       the same for me with almost everything maxed out except the sun
       reflections and something else I dont like.I get in the 70"s to
       80"s in Pcars 2
       #Post#: 4585--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Project Cars 2
       By: Tech G Date: September 29, 2017, 8:24 pm
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       [quote author=Scott Arrington link=topic=244.msg4582#msg4582
       date=1506723861]
       Come on Chris,you must be well off living where u do,you can
       afford 60 bucks,it"s worth it ;D
       [/quote]
       Lol, well its totally not about the money, its about time.  I
       don't have time to put into 2 sims, with all the practice, setup
       work, etc that goes with it to be competitive.  So, if I get
       pCars 2 now, I will probably never open rf2 again  :o.
       rf2 has been around a long time and has a loyal following, but
       imho that alone will not be enough for the new developer to make
       it work.  Pretty much everyone I know that switched to rf2 in
       the past year will switch to pCars 2, meaning they will not be
       buying future DLCs, etc.
       There are a load of good leagues that will be running pCars 2,
       but I too prefer the rf2 league scene on the whole.  Plus there
       are loads and loads of add ons that will pop up, that just add
       to the cool factor of the game.  For example they had this very
       cool setup data base site
  HTML http://projectcarssetups.eu/#/bycar,<br
       />which became a great resource to get a quick setup ( I
       personally posted a lot of my setups their). So it just helps to
       make the sim racing experience a lot better for people who
       either don't enjoy setups or didn't have the time.
       They are also looking to add driver swap functionality, so
       honestly if I like the FFB they will get all of my sim time
       because the game has way more to offer than rf2 will ever have
       and it will be played by a lot more people, so bigger grids,
       more multi-class races, etc.
       What the rf2 crowd generally seem to not realize is just because
       they take the 'realism' seriously this is still a game and
       people who play it want to have fun and, if your in a league,
       you want to be competitive.  rF2 is generally a very unwelcoming
       sim and I almost ditched it after my first couple of attempts.
       I will be sad if it comes to this but like I said the developers
       are moving to slowly given what's happening around them and
       their just isn't enough detail or solidity to the time line for
       their updates.  As much as the 'real' sim racer slagged off
       pCars1, it was actually a very good game, just missing the FFB
       and physics, kinda important for a sim.  The sad part is that
       most of the other 'real' sims are still not even up to pCars 1
       standards in all other aspects and that game is now 2 1/2 years
       old.  It really is just not good enough, so I fear rf2 will stay
       in its niche, with less and less leagues, smaller and smaller
       grids, and leaving us all to wonder why a sim with the best FFB,
       tire model and physics has only a had full of people playing it.
       SteamCharts: Number of Players
       A.v Last 30 days         Peak Past Year
       PCars 1             800                         2,900
       PCars 2             3,000                      6,700
       rF2                   324                         1,400
       #Post#: 4586--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Project Cars 2
       By: Tig_green Date: September 30, 2017, 4:01 am
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       Scott, I have 12gt of free space in my main OS drive and 30 in
       my other drive :s (I don't have too many games installed)
       70-80 fps wouldn't be enough. I have a 144hz gaming monitor so I
       aim 144fps. I haven't tried rf2 dx11 because dx11 doesn't
       support plugins. With dx9 and almost full settings I reach
       100-200 fps depending on track and cars.
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