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       #Post#: 2003--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fun Run - GTO's at Tiger Moth
       By: MikeeCZ Date: March 19, 2017, 1:30 pm
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       Was a good fun, we crashed each other out with Steve, partially
       due to silly rF2 collision behaviour, still enjoyed my short
       lived evening.
       #Post#: 2005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fun Run - GTO's at Tiger Moth
       By: Tig_green Date: March 19, 2017, 3:05 pm
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       I felt pretty happy about my pace. I used higher downforce in
       the race and it was paying off until I crashed. I was being
       cautious there but was one of those moments where I felt
       invincible. I was hungry for cake :p
       MF, it was Steve and you who crashed. I was like "oooh shiiit".
       I guess you had a bad start by purpose? I like this car but the
       track was pretty bomb. Reminded me off Longford where there is
       constant danger. Would have like to have that fight for the win
       with Cakes, oh well.
       See you next week!
       -Matt
       #Post#: 2006--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fun Run - GTO's at Tiger Moth
       By: MikeeCZ Date: March 19, 2017, 3:07 pm
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       [quote author=Tig_green link=topic=130.msg2005#msg2005
       date=1489953902]
       I felt pretty happy about my pace. I used higher downforce in
       the race and it was paying off until I crashed. I was being
       cautious there but was one of those moments where I felt
       invincible. I was hungry for cake :p
       MF, it was Steve and you who crashed. I was like "oooh shiiit".
       I guess you had a bad start by purpose? I like this car but the
       track was pretty bomb. Reminded me off Longford where there is
       constant danger. Would have like to have that fight for the win
       with Cakes, oh well.
       See you next week!
       -Matt
       [/quote]
       Ah, edited my post to Steve, sorry!
       Yeah I let the field pass on both starts to get some racing, and
       racing i got, despite it being short, it was fun.
       #Post#: 2011--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fun Run - GTO's at Tiger Moth
       By: i_hortal Date: March 19, 2017, 5:37 pm
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       [quote author=MikeeCZ link=topic=130.msg2006#msg2006
       date=1489954079]
       [quote author=Tig_green link=topic=130.msg2005#msg2005
       date=1489953902]
       I felt pretty happy about my pace. I used higher downforce in
       the race and it was paying off until I crashed. I was being
       cautious there but was one of those moments where I felt
       invincible. I was hungry for cake :p
       MF, it was Steve and you who crashed. I was like "oooh shiiit".
       I guess you had a bad start by purpose? I like this car but the
       track was pretty bomb. Reminded me off Longford where there is
       constant danger. Would have like to have that fight for the win
       with Cakes, oh well.
       See you next week!
       -Matt
       [/quote]
       Ah, edited my post to Steve, sorry!
       Yeah I let the field pass on both starts to get some racing, and
       racing i got, despite it being short, it was fun.
       [/quote]
       despite me being way slower is good to race against someone that
       wont do anything wonky or take weird lines or do sudden changes
       of direction.
       props for clean racing!
       managed to get good pace later on but i crashed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
       #Post#: 2012--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fun Run - GTO's at Tiger Moth
       By: Chad Brown Date: March 19, 2017, 9:05 pm
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       I had a decent start on both attempts. I had an early off and
       took some damage which took 170 seconds to fix. I then settled
       into a pace which was not near qual speed. I had a brief spin
       with about 10 minutes to go but took no damage, only flat
       spotted my tires. I was able to outlast 9 others for a 4th place
       finish. the best of any of my last dozen or so races. i'll take
       it.
       For what its worth I was happy with the turnout and I think most
       people who took part in the race had a good time. This was a
       very challenging car and track combo. I would like to think that
       many of our members would not shy away from a challenge just
       because it is difficult.
       See you next week at Sao Paulo.
       #Post#: 2015--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fun Run - GTO's at Tiger Moth
       By: Tig_green Date: March 20, 2017, 3:38 am
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       The whole point of off-season is that we try something different
       from what we would race during our series. Then there is
       pre-season to test out things before series' points races start.
       Imo this was a good reminder of the danger element racing has.
       It's a good practice for the upcoming series also because URD
       cars aren't as stable as Apex cars and things can go ugly fast.
       We also have 45 mins races in our upcoming series so it's good
       to remember that you must finish before you can score. Sometimes
       it's a wise decision to ease off and lose few seconds rather
       than push the whole time and end up losing a tyre, or two. I got
       a good reminder of that :)
       -Matt
       #Post#: 2016--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fun Run - GTO's at Tiger Moth
       By: Simon J Date: March 20, 2017, 3:55 am
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       Was allot of fun nearly made up quite few places on massive
       crash on last corner prob would have made it round last car if i
       was not laughing so much  ;D
       car was allot of fun to drive i turned caster up to 6.8 made for
       more front end feel was even 2nd at one point till i crashed :)
       #Post#: 2017--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fun Run - GTO's at Tiger Moth
       By: hardtohandle Date: March 20, 2017, 9:00 am
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       Well that was the last race for me here, the best track and car
       combo yet and it was fun - for 5 laps, heh! I moved up to 2nd
       and was gaining slightly on the leader Cupp Cakes, dropping the
       folks behind except for foster and it was looking good. That's
       all I've got to say.
       I enjoyed the 1st season the most, there was less of us on the
       grid but we could all rely on respectful and clean racing and
       that was awesome. Good times :)
       Thanks a lot guys and thanks a lot to Chad and the organisers, I
       hope the league goes from strength to strength, I wish you all
       the best.
       So thanks again, and ciao :)
       #Post#: 2052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fun Run - GTO's at Tiger Moth
       By: hardtohandle Date: March 23, 2017, 10:23 am
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       Y'alright boys I thought I was being very diplomatic actually
       with my previous post because I was pretty pissed off about
       being taken out of the 3rd race in a row, I didn't really want
       to mouth off about it so I just kept it short and sweet. But Mem
       did say last night it come off as sounding pretty blunt which I
       suppose it does despite my best efforts for it not to.
       So I just wanted to make clear I have enjoyed racing with you
       all over last 2 seasons, I think your all a good bunch of racers
       at heart and I have had some good moments, VRC is very well run
       league with the right spirit, to be honest I would like to
       continue racing with you boys if it was not for 2 things, one is
       the URD mod which I just can't enjoy no matter how much I try.
       The other reason is something else, probably it all leads back
       to the aids, not because of the disadvantage it may bring me in
       terms of car and tyre performance - actually more because of the
       mentality them aids instill in people in the sense that it
       encourages and rewards ever more aggression and risk taking - if
       you can drive the wheels of it from start to finish why not? But
       im running no aids, I chose to join league running aids so I
       can't complain too much but I got a bit tired of too many
       unneccessary accidents caused in my view largely by aids induced
       hot headedness.
       I was gonna see out these fun races before you went to the URD
       but you know I had enough at Nola that was god damn stupid what
       happened there, then taken out of Sebring and Tigermoth I just
       had enough now, I'm not interested to spend time making setup
       and practising a bit just to get taken out all the time. It can
       happen some of the time, it can't happen all the time. I think
       what aids to is put people on steroids. It lets them them race
       harder and more agressively than ever before, risks you might
       not talk on no aids you would take on aids, and I feel that
       leads to a pretty unholy cocktail that I don't like.
       So I don't think your a bunch of assholes, or the league is a
       bad league, totally the reverse on both counts I want to be
       clear about that. In fact this rebirth of VRC has been a huge
       success, a good bunch of guys who know how to race is ideal for
       me, but I don't run aids and I found these things ultimately to
       be incompatable in steroids boosted race environment. Too many
       risks on top of the risks that already do and always will exist
       just make it unworkable I feel.
       I had a lot of good times as well and I am glad of that. Sorry
       if my last post sounded a bit blunt, I am glad I joined VRC and
       if I liked to run aids I would continue, but i'll never run aids
       nor the URD so I'm sorry to say I'm out. I'm grateful to all
       runing the league your doing a great thing, in fact if it was
       not for the aids I would say this is the best league I have been
       in for a long time and it has a lot of potential still yet.
       Thanks for the good times, hope the new season in the URD goes
       great for you all :)
       #Post#: 2055--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fun Run - GTO's at Tiger Moth
       By: i_hortal Date: March 23, 2017, 12:02 pm
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       [quote author=hardtohandle link=topic=130.msg2052#msg2052
       date=1490282623]
       Y'alright boys I thought I was being very diplomatic actually
       with my previous post because I was pretty pissed off about
       being taken out of the 3rd race in a row, I didn't really want
       to mouth off about it so I just kept it short and sweet. But Mem
       did say last night it come off as sounding pretty blunt which I
       suppose it does despite my best efforts for it not to.
       So I just wanted to make clear I have enjoyed racing with you
       all over last 2 seasons, I think your all a good bunch of racers
       at heart and I have had some good moments, VRC is very well run
       league with the right spirit, to be honest I would like to
       continue racing with you boys if it was not for 2 things, one is
       the URD mod which I just can't enjoy no matter how much I try.
       The other reason is something else, probably it all leads back
       to the aids, not because of the disadvantage it may bring me in
       terms of car and tyre performance - actually more because of the
       mentality them aids instill in people in the sense that it
       encourages and rewards ever more aggression and risk taking - if
       you can drive the wheels of it from start to finish why not? But
       im running no aids, I chose to join league running aids so I
       can't complain too much but I got a bit tired of too many
       unneccessary accidents caused in my view largely by aids induced
       hot headedness.
       I was gonna see out these fun races before you went to the URD
       but you know I had enough at Nola that was god damn stupid what
       happened there, then taken out of Sebring and Tigermoth I just
       had enough now, I'm not interested to spend time making setup
       and practising a bit just to get taken out all the time. It can
       happen some of the time, it can't happen all the time. I think
       what aids to is put people on steroids. It lets them them race
       harder and more agressively than ever before, risks you might
       not talk on no aids you would take on aids, and I feel that
       leads to a pretty unholy cocktail that I don't like.
       So I don't think your a bunch of assholes, or the league is a
       bad league, totally the reverse on both counts I want to be
       clear about that. In fact this rebirth of VRC has been a huge
       success, a good bunch of guys who know how to race is ideal for
       me, but I don't run aids and I found these things ultimately to
       be incompatable in steroids boosted race environment. Too many
       risks on top of the risks that already do and always will exist
       just make it unworkable I feel.
       I had a lot of good times as well and I am glad of that. Sorry
       if my last post sounded a bit blunt, I am glad I joined VRC and
       if I liked to run aids I would continue, but i'll never run aids
       nor the URD so I'm sorry to say I'm out. I'm grateful to all
       runing the league your doing a great thing, in fact if it was
       not for the aids I would say this is the best league I have been
       in for a long time and it has a lot of potential still yet.
       Thanks for the good times, hope the new season in the URD goes
       great for you all :)
       [/quote]
       dont blame aids for your lack of racecraft, yes accidents
       happen, but if you're involved in a lot of them then you might
       want to reconsider your own actions too. i think the whole
       aids/no aids argument is a cheap excuse, mostly, dont run
       without aids and expect to perform and everyone behind you brake
       50 meters earlier because you cant. i can get away without aids
       for the most part but i choose to use them to save tyres and
       avoid unfortunate flatspots.
       you know, if you think everyone is an asshole (driver) then it
       might be the case that you're the one in the first place.
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