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#Post#: 918--------------------------------------------------
Laying claim to PVP salvage - Discussion (PVP Fair Play Rule 2)
By: Syrass Date: May 30, 2018, 12:34 am
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At time of this post the rule is:
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PVP Fair Play Rule 2 - Once a player has been killed you are not
allowed to sit / camp so you can kill them as soon as they
spawn, if they act in an aggressive manner then you can kill
them again. If they attempt to leave the area or surrender in
chat then you are to let them leave with what they are carrying
and may lay claim to whatever is left behind.
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From the reading of this rule, if a player surrenders, they keep
what is in their backpack. Have I read this incorrectly?
I know that terms of surrender have previously included ransoms
etc, but am I not able to lay claim on what is in a persons
backpack? Can I scoup up everything that is valuable in a ship
and hide it in my backpack and request safe passage based on
surrender?
I don't remember this being the case - Other peoples thoughts?
Does anyone have a specific clarification?
#Post#: 922--------------------------------------------------
Re: Laying claim to PVP salvage - Discussion (PVP Fair Play Rule
2)
By: Dazza Date: June 26, 2018, 8:17 pm
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Good question, i also would like some clarification on this, if
i was to surrender in a battle does that mean i can walk away
with whats on me?
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Re: Laying claim to PVP salvage - Discussion (PVP Fair Play Rule
2)
By: Syrass Date: July 10, 2018, 10:53 am
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I know it is 2 weeks since this was touched, but the game atm
seems to being played that if you get a lift back, you keep
nothing (nothing in your pack) by default.
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Re: Laying claim to PVP salvage - Discussion (PVP Fair Play Rule
2)
By: moedeb27 Date: July 10, 2018, 6:24 pm
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As the person who wrote the rule I can say at the time the
spirit of the rule was that you could only leave with what was
in your backpack at the time of surrender. You are not allowed
to salvage anything at all extra! If you have previously died
and lost your backpack and have not claimed it back before
surrendering, then you lose the backpack.
As for 'charging' people for a lift, that's not really in the
'spirit' of Venatus, however the spirit of play is only really
something that can exist if it is done by everyone, so if the
surrendering player is attempting to salvage stuff then as far
as I'm concerned keep killing them and leave them there if you
wish ;D
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Re: Laying claim to PVP salvage - Discussion (PVP Fair Play Rule
2)
By: Syrass Date: July 11, 2018, 3:23 am
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[quote author=moedeb27 link=topic=258.msg927#msg927
date=1531265076]
As the person who wrote the rule I can say at the time the
spirit of the rule was that you could only leave with what was
in your backpack at the time of surrender.[/quote]
Right, and that is how I read the rule from a very literal point
of view. In practice, atm, it would appear that if you
surrender, people will kill you one more time, make sure you
don't have valuables on you, then offer the lift.
As for the ransom part - that is usually "If you want your ship,
pay me X and Ill let you come get it" (rather than a "pay for
passage").
The other part that is interesting to me atm is that it is to
ensure that people aren't stranded. This means that if they
aren't stranded and they don't surrender, I don't have to offer
anything and can simply leave.
I feel that most people are "in the spirit" of not leaving
others stranded, but there appears to be entitlement on both
sides (1. You surrendered so I get your backpack 2. You killed
me, so take me anywhere I want in the system) that should be
cleared up by both admins and the community to basically say
what is expected.
There are people who take advantage of this, and it really pains
me to see an honorable winner of PvP getting messed with as much
as an unfortunate victim of PvP getting messed with (including
myself who had someone demand turrets were turned off, then they
jumped in their ship and flew away).
PS: There are a lot of people who are prepared to go into PvP
space for a rescue if you do find yourself stranded after an
"unfortunate incident" and most of us wont be asking for
"payment". I also ask that people who are on such a "rescue
mission" be given free passage while doing such things.
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