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       How do some Muslims see the UK?
       By: KerryD Date: November 13, 2025, 7:12 am
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       I don't want to generalize and say that all Muslims see the UK
       as a lawless place; but if the three Muslim men accused of
       raping a woman on the Brighton seafront are guilty, I'd say some
       definitely see the UK as a place where anything goes.
       Story here:
  HTML https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2025/11/13/trial-date-set-for-three-asylum-seekers-charged-with-seafront-rape/
       It doesn't make sense to me for Muslim men to be seeking asylum
       or safety in the UK while doing this to a woman.  The same
       seafront (more or less) was also where  someone was attacked at
       a Pride event. The police are looking for one man although there
       were two attackers.  What's going on?
       Story here:
  HTML https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2025/11/13/man-wanted-for-questioning-over-pride-attack/
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       Re: How do some Muslims see the UK?
       By: Rita Date: November 13, 2025, 8:14 am
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       I live in Brighton Kerry, I see the three men lived in other
       areas of the country. I guess it depends on what they are
       allowed to get away with in their own countries and surely if
       they are found guilty then it shows that there are consequences.
       Personally I don’t see how they can be found not guilty on this
       occasion.
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       Re: How do some Muslims see the UK?
       By: Rita Date: November 13, 2025, 8:22 am
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       Brighton is the gay capital of the U.K. and Pride is a massive
       event now, it’s not surprising that there are problems from time
       to time as we often have problems with drunk people as we have a
       lot of clubs/ bars ect. This isn’t a new thing and it’s not
       always Muslims.
       I must admit that over the past few weeks I have tired of trying
       to defend the reputation of the U.K. to those who do not live
       here. On Christian board there are a number of members who paint
       such a bad picture and it’s all based on what they here in the
       press and videos on you tube, often as not the full picture of
       events is not seen so they think that Birmingham ( for example )
       is 98% Muslim when they reality is much much lower. They think
       that everyone here is arrested for posting things on social
       media , when the reality is that a few people have crossed the
       line. We do have problems, like all nations.
       I think the reason people come here is because they have heard
       that they are provided for - money. It’s also the last port of
       call as they go through and are rejected elsewhere in Europe. We
       were kind and generous and now it’s exploited.
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       Re: How do some Muslims see the UK?
       By: KerryD Date: November 13, 2025, 3:21 pm
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       [quote author=Rita link=topic=86.msg2628#msg2628
       date=1763043731]Brighton is the gay capital of the U.K. and
       Pride is a massive event now, it’s not surprising that there are
       problems from time to time as we often have problems with drunk
       people as we have a lot of clubs/ bars ect. This isn’t a new
       thing and it’s not always Muslims.[/quote]
       It used to be here in the US that gay events were generally
       safer than most others since the organizers didn't want any bad
       publicity and arranged for a high level of security.  My guess
       is it's that way now too in Brighton; but it's the bad apples
       that make the news.
       [quote]I think the reason people come here is because they have
       heard that they are provided for - money. It’s also the last
       port of call as they go through and are rejected elsewhere in
       Europe. We were kind and generous and now it’s exploited.
       [/quote]
       I think you're probably right.
       What's unfortunate is that when men from Muslim countries do bad
       things, it could make it harder for the other people who would
       like to live in the UK -- and some of them might have legitimate
       asylum claims too.
       You had mentioned before that you live in Brighton which is one
       reason I found this story interesting.
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