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       Re: What do you want to be when you grow up?
       By: Dave Date: August 17, 2025, 8:28 pm
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       I shall from now on wear this like a frontlet, "read and
       inwardly digest the 'initial' post"
       But my wife will agree, my elevator does not always go to the
       top.!!!
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       Re: What do you want to be when you grow up?
       By: Mike Waters Date: August 17, 2025, 11:07 pm
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       Moderation intervention by me?
       I've been banned from doing that!
       As for threads going sideways I've yet to receive any response
       to my suggestion that children who have died prematurely, or
       those with severe mental incapability, or those who never see a
       Bible or hear the Gospel invitation, can surely not be condemned
       to eternal damnation as their punishment for never being able to
       commit to an efficacious believe in Christ.
       To the best of my knowledge the Bible has nowhere suggested
       exemption for all such situations.
       (Except perhaps Romans 1 which suggests that a declination to
       commit Idolatry will suffice in situations such as Geographical
       isolation)
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       Re: What do you want to be when you grow up?
       By: Kerry Date: August 18, 2025, 12:25 am
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       [quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=74.msg2256#msg2256
       date=1755490040]
       Moderation intervention by me?
       I've been banned from doing that!
       As for threads going sideways I've yet to receive any response
       to my suggestion that children who have died prematurely, or
       those with severe mental incapability, or those who never see a
       Bible or hear the Gospel invitation, can surely not be condemned
       to eternal damnation as their punishment for never being able to
       commit to an efficacious believe in Christ.
       To the best of my knowledge the Bible has nowhere suggested
       exemption for all such situations.
       (Except perhaps Romans 1 which suggests that a declination to
       commit Idolatry will suffice in situations such as Geographical
       isolation)
       [/quote]I think I can mention something about young children who
       die prematurely.
       Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be
       converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter
       into the kingdom of heaven.
       I also ask how  all the Israel will be saved?
       Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written,
       There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away
       ungodliness from Jacob:
       Those who hear the truth and who can understand it can also be
       held accountable for rejecting it. If someone could not
       understand it, it may be better for them not to hear the truth.
       . . yet . . .  lest they stumble and reject it without knowing
       what they do.  People who don't know what they're doing can be
       easily forgiven, like the people who crucified Jesus.
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       Re: What do you want to be when you grow up?
       By: Helen Date: August 18, 2025, 10:27 am
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       [quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=74.msg2256#msg2256
       date=1755490040]
       Moderation intervention by me?
       I've been banned from doing that!
       As for threads going sideways I've yet to receive any response
       to my suggestion that children who have died prematurely, or
       those with severe mental incapability, or those who never see a
       Bible or hear the Gospel invitation, can surely not be condemned
       to eternal damnation as their punishment for never being able to
       commit to an efficacious believe in Christ.
       To the best of my knowledge the Bible has nowhere suggested
       exemption for all such situations.
       (Except perhaps Romans 1 which suggests that a declination to
       commit Idolatry will suffice in situations such as Geographical
       isolation)
       [/quote]
       Personally I don’t  believe that it needs to be written in black
       and white Mike.
       1) God is Love.
       2) “Suffer little children to come unto me”.
       Those of less than perfect IQ ,or damaged , are childlike by
       nature …a God of love does not condemn them.
       As you know , I believe the great creator became our saviour ,
       and His blood is enough .
       I believe in the cleansing , like sheep being dipped , and
       coming out the other side clean!  The cleansing will be longer
       for some than others …but HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD IS MORE THAN
       ENOUGH!
       “God is not willing that any should perish “
       God wins!
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       Re: What do you want to be when you grow up?
       By: Dave Date: August 18, 2025, 11:02 am
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       One of my older school things was because I never liked school,
       at the end of the art class being told to wash all the paint off
       the saucers things, I had failed in the carpentry class for
       having my fingers on the jack plane the wrong way around and
       planing a large portion off the top of my middle finger, plus
       the carpentry master didn't like the sight of blood, ( maybe a
       leftover from the war).
       So in a large sink one would put the saucer under the gravity
       flow of 'water' which would take the five separate colours and
       swirl them together before they went down the plug hole, and so
       the five eventually became one.
       I think as most of us on here have followed on to know in some
       measure the Lord, the church in many cases have made ones
       choice, heaven OR hell, Jesus called his 12, never questioned
       them on their individual beliefs, never said this is the choice
       Heaven or hell.
       Old Mephibosheth dropped as a baby, lame in both feet through no
       fault of his own, yet gets to eat at the Kings table is my
       answer Mike to the unfortunate's in the world.
       Helen's a 5 colour legalist, I'm more of a swirl type myself,
       the flush is the Lords doing and it will be marvellous in our
       eyes.
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