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       Question?
       By: Mike Waters Date: July 20, 2025, 1:08 pm
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       What do those who fancy themselves as  theologians make of this?
       
       "When you come together, there will be divisions among you; and
       there must be also heresies, that they which are approved may be
       made manifest"
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       Re: Question?
       By: Dave Date: July 20, 2025, 2:30 pm
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       It would appear to qualify for the philosophically orientated
       discipline of religious speculation, one has to consider and be
       versed in the four types of theology to warrant the title of a
       Theologian.
       Above my pay grade Mike but the verse in question from 1 Cor 11
       vs 18 & 19, raises the question of who was the whistleblower in
       the church to Paul?  He says I hear?
       Paul sees divisions and factions as a positive happening and it
       is for a purpose, usually a type of the sifting of the wheat
       process.
       He doesn't say 'come out and be ye separate' this was a time for
       the true leadership in the church to move redemptively and
       establish God's order under Paul's leadership.
       Watchman Nee's pattern was that the 'approved' were revealed to
       be the ministry to that local church, no bringing 'in' from
       outside the group as leadership and oversight.
       As fleshly as this body group was, it is still the pattern I
       believe modern Christianity has forsaken, theologically
       speaking.
       We just had our daily dose of Mr Smith Wigglesworth and in
       todays script he wrote :
       The essence of divine order is to bring the church 'together',
       so that there is no schism in the body, but a perfect blending
       of heart to heart.
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       Re: Question?
       By: Kerry Date: July 21, 2025, 4:58 am
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       The passage confuses me somewhat.  The mixture of Jews and
       Gentiles seems to have played a role.
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       Re: Question?
       By: Rita Date: July 21, 2025, 8:33 am
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       The whole letter was written because Chloe’s household had
       revealed that there were quarrels taking place -( 1Corinthians
       1:10-11 )  the church lacked harmony or the ability to get on
       with one another, despite differences.
       Paul addresses there attitudes to communion and a number of
       other things, by these attitudes and how they were acting would
       reveal those who were following Christs example.
       Doesn’t Paul state somewhere about them not being ready for
       anything other than milk because they were carnal in their
       attitudes.
       We are called to be peacemakers - how we deal with issues that
       arise between one another can and does act as a witness of our
       maturity on a spiritual level. There will always be differences
       of opinions as we have an enemy who loves to divide and conquer.
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