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       #Post#: 1877--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
   DIR By: Helen
       Date: June 19, 2025, 4:28 pm
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       PS
       Kerry , I hear that there is a Dutch clover , mini and micro
       clover for lawns that helps fill in with a clover lawn.
       They stay under the lawn mover when lawn is being cut.
       #Post#: 1895--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
   DIR By: Kerry
       Date: June 22, 2025, 2:31 pm
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       --- Quote from: Helen link ---
       >
       > I don’t believe that bees are an unclean creature . What made
       them unclean was the lions carcass that they were in..
       > Honey in the Bible speaks of enlightenment, and always spoken
       of positively .
       > I felt sorry for Jonathan when in the battle he dipped his
       sword into honey and was strengthened . Though they’d been told
       to not eat until they had won the battle …which I think is a
       stupid idea.
       > I don’t think it was a God idea!  Why make soldiers fight why
       fasting and weak.
       >
       > “All creation groans for the manifestation of the sons of God
       ..”
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There may be a problem with  translation.  I don't understand
       Hebrew that well; but when it says goes on four legs, it may
       mean crawling along on the ground as in "whatsoever goeth on its
       belly."
       KJV Leviticus 11:42 Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and
       whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet
       among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye
       shall not eat; for they are an abomination.
       Locusts seemed to be okay since they walked on their hind feet.
       The Jewish Encyclopedia has an article on insects and the Hebrew
       grammar; but I admit I still don't understand the grammar part.
  HTML https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/8125-insects[/quote]
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       > I notice in your post Kerry the Queens beekeeper informed the
       bees of the Queens death , respectfully and asked them not to
       leave.  Yet with the story of the grandad who was a bee keeper .
       They swarmed all over his farmhouse ,then hung over his grave
       for a week , then never seen again! Obviously no one
       respectfully spoke to them. So they had no focus and didnt feel
       safe.
       >
       > I notice that the tradition of talking to them is taken very
       lightly and called ‘superstition’…in the article but in hundreds
       of cases it been shown to be a proven thing.
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm thinking maybe it works that way only for bees who have a
       relationship with their owners.  Farmers can rent bees here in
       the US to pollinate their crops; and when that job is done, the
       bees get shipped back to the business which rented them out.
       --- Quote ---
       > The old time preacher/ healer Willian Branham used to speak to
       the creation too .
       > The animals knew that he was good. A possum brought her sick
       baby onto his porch for him to heal it and he did . Other
       animals too.  He learned this by one time being charged at by a
       bull as he crossed a field . He turned to it and told it that
       God was his maker too and they  had one Father  who loved them .
       The bull stopped and listened . After that he always prayed for
       animals .
       > I remember reading the great preacher John Wesley’s Journal.
       Once when he as riding miles to preach , his horse dropped down
       u dry him . He laid hands and prayed over it , and it jumped up
       and he wasn’t late for the meeting. Which usually consisted of
       thousands of people , standing for hours on end , listening in
       the open fields of England.
       >
       > “All creation groans for the manifestation of the sons of God
       ..”
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wonderful stories.  I had a vision once (back when I was still
       having them) of the face of an ass.  It had beautiful eyes and
       its whole face was glowing. I wish I could paint pictures
       better.  We didn't "speak" verbally, but somehow I knew  that
       that ass had been present at Jesus' birthplace in the stable.
       Did that give Jesus a special relationship with that species?
       Just wondering -- but perhaps so. It couldn't have been the same
       animal he rode on his return to Jerusalem with people chanting
       Hosanna.  I bet the animal enjoyed having Jesus ride on him.  A
       little of creation had some of its groaning removed.
       #Post#: 1896--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
   DIR By: Kerry
       Date: June 22, 2025, 2:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: Rita link ---
       >
       > Knowing what we know about bees and their importance with
       pollination I find it hard to understand why they would ever be
       considered ‘ unclean ‘. They are so important to the nature echo
       system , and consequently, us.
       > For me they are harmful as I am allergic to the sting but over
       the years I have equally learned that they attack if they
       themselves feel threatened, or the nest. Self defence.
       > I merely stand still if one is in my face or around me.
       >
       > I like bees, not keen on wasps but never sure how to tell the
       difference. They are still important but don’t produce honey - a
       counterfeit. Got to be a spiritual analogy there somewhere xx
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wasps can be nasty and aggressive.  The old houses here have air
       spaces in the attic to let out some heat; and the house I lived
       in at the time got a wasp nest in the attic.  I was amazed when
       I saw it.  I knew they don't move fast when it's cold, so I
       waited until the nighttime to take action. I armed myself with a
       garbage bag, a stick and a can of insecticide. When I checked
       the nest out, there were no wasps in sight.  I covered the nest
       with the bad, broke it away from the roof with the stick and
       then sprayed the inside of the bad with the bug spray.   Years
       later, a wasp nest appeared in the back yard; and I took care of
       it the same way.
       I'm still trying to understand the spiritual side of things; but
       for now, I'm thinking humans even if "unclean" can produce "good
       works" if they show love and work together.  If the Holy Spirit
       of Love is present, maybe it can purify all things?
       #Post#: 1898--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
   DIR By: Kerry
       Date: June 22, 2025, 2:53 pm
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       --- Quote from: Helen link ---
       >
       > PS
       >
       > Kerry , I hear that there is a Dutch clover , mini and micro
       clover for lawns that helps fill in with a clover lawn.
       > They stay under the lawn mover when lawn is being cut.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, indeed.  I have some small clover in with the bigger.  It
       took me a while to figure out it wasn't younger plants waiting
       to get bigger.
       #Post#: 1905--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
   DIR By: Pat
       Date: June 22, 2025, 5:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: Kerry link ---
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       > Yes, indeed.  I have some small clover in with the bigger.  It
       took me a while to figure out it wasn't younger plants waiting
       to get bigger.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I found a lovely picture of purple/pink clover which I was going
       to post on here but then I lost it.  Ah well we all know what
       clover looks like.  When i was a child we used to pluck the
       petals off and suck out the sweet nectar.
       Over here the small clover is white and the larger one is
       pink/purple,
       #Post#: 1906--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
   DIR By: Mike Waters
       Date: June 22, 2025, 5:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: Pat link ---
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       >  When i was a child we used to pluck the petals off and suck
       out the sweet nectar.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       When I as a child we used to suck the nectar from fuchsias, and
       I always used to worry whether it might be poisonous.
       #Post#: 1908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
   DIR By: Helen
       Date: June 22, 2025, 6:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mike Waters link ---
       >
       > When I as a child we used to suck the nectar from fuchsias,
       and I always used to worry whether it might be poisonous.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The only thing I remember sucking as a kid , was honeysuckle …I
       don’t remember anything else .
       And whistling through wide grass between my thumbs.
       #Post#: 1910--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
   DIR By: Dave
       Date: June 22, 2025, 10:57 pm
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       We used to suck the white bit on the bottom of bluebells, now
       there’s an organic colon cleanse.🫣🫣🫣 and
       the price is right.
       #Post#: 1912--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
   DIR By: Rita
       Date: June 23, 2025, 1:37 am
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       I remember whistling through wide grass between my thumbs , but
       sucking nectar from plants …………that’s just weird
       Must be a generational thing !!!! lol
       #Post#: 1913--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
   DIR By: Pat
       Date: June 23, 2025, 7:15 am
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       --- Quote from: Rita link ---
       >
       > I remember whistling through wide grass between my thumbs ,
       but sucking nectar from plants …………that’s just weird
       >
       > Must be a generational thing !!!! lol
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think I could still whistle through the grass.  The secret was
       to get it a taut as possible between your thumbs.
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