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       #Post#: 1877--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
       By: Helen Date: June 19, 2025, 4:28 pm
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       Kerry , I hear that there is a Dutch clover , mini and micro
       clover for lawns that helps fill in with a clover lawn.
       They stay under the lawn mover when lawn is being cut.
       #Post#: 1895--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
       By: Kerry Date: June 22, 2025, 2:31 pm
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       [quote author=Helen link=topic=57.msg1876#msg1876
       date=1750367151]
       I don’t believe that bees are an unclean creature . What made
       them unclean was the lions carcass that they were in..
       Honey in the Bible speaks of enlightenment, and always spoken
       of positively .
       I felt sorry for Jonathan when in the battle he dipped his
       sword into honey and was strengthened . Though they’d been told
       to not eat until they had won the battle …which I think is a
       stupid idea.
       I don’t think it was a God idea!  Why make soldiers fight why
       fasting and weak.
       “All creation groans for the manifestation of the sons of
       God ..”
       [/quote]There may be a problem with  translation.  I don't
       understand Hebrew that well; but when it says goes on four legs,
       it may mean crawling along on the ground as in "whatsoever goeth
       on its belly."
       KJV Leviticus 11:42 Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and
       whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet
       among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye
       shall not eat; for they are an abomination.
       Locusts seemed to be okay since they walked on their hind feet.
       The Jewish Encyclopedia has an article on insects and the Hebrew
       grammar; but I admit I still don't understand the grammar part.
  HTML https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/8125-insects[/quote]
       [quote]I notice in your post Kerry the Queens beekeeper informed
       the bees of the Queens death , respectfully and asked them not
       to leave.  Yet with the story of the grandad who was a bee
       keeper . They swarmed all over his farmhouse ,then hung over his
       grave for a week , then never seen again! Obviously no one
       respectfully spoke to them. So they had no focus and didnt feel
       safe.
       I notice that the tradition of talking to them is taken very
       lightly and called ‘superstition’…in the article but in hundreds
       of cases it been shown to be a proven thing.[/quote]I'm thinking
       maybe it works that way only for bees who have a relationship
       with their owners.  Farmers can rent bees here in the US to
       pollinate their crops; and when that job is done, the bees get
       shipped back to the business which rented them out.
       [quote]    The old time preacher/ healer Willian Branham used to
       speak to the creation too .
       The animals knew that he was good. A possum brought her sick
       baby onto his porch for him to heal it and he did . Other
       animals too.  He learned this by one time being charged at by a
       bull as he crossed a field . He turned to it and told it that
       God was his maker too and they  had one Father  who loved them .
       The bull stopped and listened . After that he always prayed for
       animals .
       I remember reading the great preacher John Wesley’s Journal.
       Once when he as riding miles to preach , his horse dropped down
       u dry him . He laid hands and prayed over it , and it jumped up
       and he wasn’t late for the meeting. Which usually consisted of
       thousands of people , standing for hours on end , listening in
       the open fields of England.
       “All creation groans for the manifestation of the sons of
       God ..”
       [/quote]Wonderful stories.  I had a vision once (back when I was
       still having them) of the face of an ass.  It had beautiful eyes
       and its whole face was glowing. I wish I could paint pictures
       better.  We didn't "speak" verbally, but somehow I knew  that
       that ass had been present at Jesus' birthplace in the stable.
       Did that give Jesus a special relationship with that species?
       Just wondering -- but perhaps so. It couldn't have been the same
       animal he rode on his return to Jerusalem with people chanting
       Hosanna.  I bet the animal enjoyed having Jesus ride on him.  A
       little of creation had some of its groaning removed.
       #Post#: 1896--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
       By: Kerry Date: June 22, 2025, 2:40 pm
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       [quote author=Rita link=topic=57.msg1867#msg1867
       date=1750313513]
       Knowing what we know about bees and their importance with
       pollination I find it hard to understand why they would ever be
       considered ‘ unclean ‘. They are so important to the nature echo
       system , and consequently, us.
       For me they are harmful as I am allergic to the sting but over
       the years I have equally learned that they attack if they
       themselves feel threatened, or the nest. Self defence.
       I merely stand still if one is in my face or around me.
       I like bees, not keen on wasps but never sure how to tell the
       difference. They are still important but don’t produce honey - a
       counterfeit. Got to be a spiritual analogy there somewhere xx
       [/quote]Wasps can be nasty and aggressive.  The old houses here
       have air spaces in the attic to let out some heat; and the house
       I lived in at the time got a wasp nest in the attic.  I was
       amazed when I saw it.  I knew they don't move fast when it's
       cold, so I waited until the nighttime to take action. I armed
       myself with a garbage bag, a stick and a can of insecticide.
       When I checked the nest out, there were no wasps in sight.  I
       covered the nest with the bad, broke it away from the roof with
       the stick and then sprayed the inside of the bad with the bug
       spray.   Years later, a wasp nest appeared in the back yard; and
       I took care of it the same way.
       I'm still trying to understand the spiritual side of things; but
       for now, I'm thinking humans even if "unclean" can produce "good
       works" if they show love and work together.  If the Holy Spirit
       of Love is present, maybe it can purify all things?
       #Post#: 1898--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
       By: Kerry Date: June 22, 2025, 2:53 pm
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       [quote author=Helen link=topic=57.msg1877#msg1877
       date=1750368522]
       PS
       Kerry , I hear that there is a Dutch clover , mini and micro
       clover for lawns that helps fill in with a clover lawn.
       They stay under the lawn mover when lawn is being cut.
       [/quote]Yes, indeed.  I have some small clover in with the
       bigger.  It took me a while to figure out it wasn't younger
       plants waiting to get bigger.
       #Post#: 1905--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
       By: Pat Date: June 22, 2025, 5:05 pm
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       [quote author=Kerry link=topic=57.msg1898#msg1898
       date=1750622024]
       Yes, indeed.  I have some small clover in with the bigger.  It
       took me a while to figure out it wasn't younger plants waiting
       to get bigger.
       [/quote]
       I found a lovely picture of purple/pink clover which I was going
       to post on here but then I lost it.  Ah well we all know what
       clover looks like.  When i was a child we used to pluck the
       petals off and suck out the sweet nectar.
       Over here the small clover is white and the larger one is
       pink/purple,
       #Post#: 1906--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
       By: Mike Waters Date: June 22, 2025, 5:47 pm
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       [quote author=Pat link=topic=57.msg1905#msg1905 date=1750629927]
       When i was a child we used to pluck the petals off and suck out
       the sweet nectar.
       [/quote]
       When I as a child we used to suck the nectar from fuchsias, and
       I always used to worry whether it might be poisonous.
       #Post#: 1908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
       By: Helen Date: June 22, 2025, 6:00 pm
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       [quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=57.msg1906#msg1906
       date=1750632442]
       When I as a child we used to suck the nectar from fuchsias, and
       I always used to worry whether it might be poisonous.
       [/quote]
       The only thing I remember sucking as a kid , was honeysuckle …I
       don’t remember anything else .
       And whistling through wide grass between my thumbs.
       #Post#: 1910--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
       By: Dave Date: June 22, 2025, 10:57 pm
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       We used to suck the white bit on the bottom of bluebells, now
       there’s an organic colon cleanse.🫣🫣🫣 and
       the price is right.
       #Post#: 1912--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
       By: Rita Date: June 23, 2025, 1:37 am
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       I remember whistling through wide grass between my thumbs , but
       sucking nectar from plants …………that’s just weird
       Must be a generational thing !!!! lol
       #Post#: 1913--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bee’s and things 
       By: Pat Date: June 23, 2025, 7:15 am
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       [quote author=Rita link=topic=57.msg1912#msg1912
       date=1750660654]
       I remember whistling through wide grass between my thumbs , but
       sucking nectar from plants …………that’s just weird
       Must be a generational thing !!!! lol
       [/quote]
       I think I could still whistle through the grass.  The secret was
       to get it a taut as possible between your thumbs.
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