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Bee’s and things
By: Dave Date: June 18, 2025, 1:12 pm
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Hi Kerry …I moving our bee chat here , so we don’t take over
Pats Corner. :
Kerry said -
Some Rabbis say honey is clean because the bees didn't make it.
They ate it from harvesting it from flowers and then vomited it
up. It's true honey bees have two stomachs, but I still find
that explanation hard to believe.
HTML https://www.nsbka.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1038:two-stomachs&catid=97:factoids&Itemid=1461<br
/> If something touches an unclean animal, it's also considered
unclean. For example, if a bug lands in a glass of water, a
devout Jew won't drink that water. Thus Samson was a little
deceptive when he failed to tell his parents he got that honey
out of a dead lion's body.
I read Daniel also scooped honey from a lion I don’t have Chp
and verse though, a quote from someone else, still waiting on
your bee story 👍👍
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Re: Bee’s and things
By: Kerry Date: June 18, 2025, 1:57 pm
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Thanks for moving the conversation. The friendship with the bee
started off with by accident. I was about to go outside using
my side door; but when I opened the door, I spotted a bee on the
screen door wanting to escape. It's still a mystery how the bee
got trapped there; but my theory is I did it by accident. I
didn't want the bee in my house, so I shut the door. Then I went
out the front door and around the side of the house to open the
screen door. I spoke to the bee telling it to come out; and
when I opened the door, it came out. I didn't think too much of
that until a day or two later when I went out the side door, I
was greeted by a bee. I said hello. The mystery deepened when
it flew towards me, circled my head and then flew away.
Again I didn't make too much of it; but it started happening
almost every day. The one bee would be there, circle my head
and then fly away. Most of the carpenter bees spent their time
at the front of the house where they had a next. It was just
this one bee at the side of the house. I knew it didn't spend
all day there waiting for me, and the time I went out varied, so
that bee had to be reading my mind somehow. (I told you the
story sounds impossible.)
One day a guy was visiting and we wanted to go out the side
door. I knew most post people wave their hands threateningly at
bees -- he admitted he had that instinct too so I made him
promise not to swing at the bee. I told my friend the bee would
probably circle my head and then leave. He promised although I
think he thought I was crazy; but was he ever amazed when that's
what happened.
The only theory I have is that the bee was grateful I wanted to
save its life and not kill it. I still miss that bee.
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Re: Bee’s and things
By: Dave Date: June 18, 2025, 2:38 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtAu7xkwNjQ
We had a Christian Bro who brought the house down playing this
too our school kids, he crept in at the back of the class and
started very slowly and quietly, brilliant.
Fascinating story Kerry, the creation that's still groaning I
think are appreciative than some humans unfortunately.
I fed a Magpie and if I forgot, it would tap on the front
window.
Had to stop as, it started bringing friends, so I moved the menu
to the back alley and one would be on our garage roof I was
convinced it was the first one, Helen was never persuaded,
unbeliever. ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Bee’s and things
By: Kerry Date: June 18, 2025, 3:46 pm
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[quote author=Dave link=topic=57.msg1859#msg1859
date=1750275533]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtAu7xkwNjQ
We had a Christian Bro who brought the house down playing this
too our school kids, he crept in at the back of the class and
started very slowly and quietly, brilliant.
Fascinating story Kerry, the creation that's still groaning I
think are appreciative than some humans unfortunately.
I fed a Magpie and if I forgot, it would tap on the front
window.
Had to stop as, it started bringing friends, so I moved the menu
to the back alley and one would be on our garage roof I was
convinced it was the first one, Helen was never persuaded,
unbeliever. ::) ::) ::)
[/quote]
Ever notice the violinists don't read sheet music doing this
number? They couldn't read it fast enough to keep up. They
have very good memories.
Too bad you didn't get video of the magpie tapping on your
window.
Yes, creation is still groaning. This reminds me of two
passages from the Bible. Note it doesn't say preach the gospel
to every human being only. It says, "every creature." Jesus
commanded the disciples to do it, and Paul puts it in the past
tense saying it had been done. What can it mean?
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature.
Colossians 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and
settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel,
which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature
which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
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Re: Bee’s and things
By: Helen Date: June 18, 2025, 8:36 pm
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I loved your Bee story Kerry . It must have been the same one
each time. what a story. 💞
They say that even when the owner dies , the bees have to be
talked to and told or they will swarm, because they know the
moment that the owner passes.
We saw the movie years ago called “ the Secret Life Of Bees “,
it was a great movie ( not all about bees obviously …but quite
moving ) I wish I owned it…I’d watch it again.
Bees are something special.
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Re: Bee’s and things
By: Kerry Date: June 18, 2025, 10:39 pm
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=57.msg1862#msg1862
date=1750296973]
I loved your Bee story Kerry . It must have been the same one
each time. what a story. 💞
They say that even when the owner dies , the bees have to be
talked to and told or they will swarm, because they know the
moment that the owner passes.
We saw the movie years ago called “ the Secret Life Of Bees “,
it was a great movie ( not all about bees obviously …but quite
moving ) I wish I owned it…I’d watch it again.
Bees are something special.
[/quote]Yes, it had to be the same bee.
I had never heard that about telling bees about the death of
their owner; but I found out that Queen Elizabeth II loved bees.
Although she didn't do much of the upkeep, the palace
beekeeper, John Chapple, told the bees at both Clarence House
and Buckingham Palace.
HTML https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-14/why-royal-beekeeper-tells-bees-queen-died/101439526
I know there's not much enthusiasm for the royal family in many
quarters; but I also found out King Charles III loves bees. He
did lots of things for bees when he was the Prince of Wales too.
HTML https://justbeehoney.co.uk/blogs/just-bee-honey-blog/the-royal-bees-king-charles-iii-bees-and-beekeeping<br
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As the Prince of Wales, King Charles did a lot of invaluable
work through his support of initiatives and projects for the
environment, often with a focus on the importance of bees. He
has spent time visiting schools across the country encouraging
children to get involved by taking on projects like planting
flowers and creating bee-friendly areas in their schools. He's
also visited community apiary projects, universities and
beekeeping groups to show support and encouragement. For those
involved in such projects his attendance and support provided a
lot of media attention that they sadly might not have got
otherwise.
If we go back ten years the issue of neonicotinoids use was
barely on anyone's radar, other than perhaps beekeepers who were
the first to notice the impact their use was having on their
hives. Charles was someone who was raising awareness of the
effect they were having on bees very early on and his
intervention is something many beekeepers are extremely grateful
for. I'm sure in some part it was his highlighting of the issue
in front of the world's media that helped push the agenda into
the corridors of the EU which finally led to a significant
reduction in their usage.
His wife also took interest in it and has worked with a charity
to encourage beekeeping in poor countries.
Both King Charles and his wife Queen Consort Camilla have been
involved in the charity Bees for Development since they met the
charity’s representatives in 2015 during a visit to Monmouth. It
was a very pleasant surprise when Camilla became their first
president on World Bee Day 2020 and we hope Her Majesty will
continue in this important role now she is Queen.
Bees for Development was set up with an aim to help people in
poorer countries around the world become self-sufficient through
beekeeping. They do this by promoting sustainable beekeeping to
combat poverty, build livelihoods and benefit the local
biodiversity. The general principle of alleviating poverty by
facilitating self-sufficiency reminds me of the old saying “Give
a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish,
and you feed him for a lifetime.” and this very much rings true
with the ethos of the charity.
To quote Bees for Development “We all get so much from bees as
they pollinate food crops and wild plants. Honey bees enable
people to make a living through working with nature, harvesting
honey and beeswax, while helping to preserve biodiversity.
Beekeeping is low cost, sustainable, and has the greatest effect
on those who have the very least.” Bees for Development has now
worked in more than 50 countries worldwide, undertaking
beekeeping project work on behalf of organisations such as the
United Nations and managing local and initiatives in countries
such as Cameroon, Ethiopia, Ghana and Uganda.
Supporting people out of poverty through beekeeping is such a
fantastic and simple idea, we think this charity deserves our
attention too and we are very glad that they have the support of
our King and Queen Consort.
The things I am learning! I found this too about bees hovering
for a week over the grave of their owner.
HTML https://www.reddit.com/r/Beekeeping/comments/1hvtecw/my_grandfather_was_a_beekeeper_when_he_died_his/<br
/>
As the title says my grandfather kept bees. On the morning he
passed away they swarmed over his farmhouse. We buried him a few
days later at the local church about a mile away. His bees all
hung from a tree about a metre over his grave. They stayed for
about a week and then flew away. We didn’t see them again after
that. This was in west Wales. Any I thought you guys might get a
kick out of it :)
That got mentioned in a video too.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5XbI9sJfAj8
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Re: Bee’s and things
By: Mike Waters Date: June 18, 2025, 11:24 pm
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What does anyone make of the significance of the fact that the
big round fluffy Bumble Bee doesn't just inject venum when it
stings but actually leaves its physical sting behind and then
dies as a consequence?
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Re: Bee’s and things
By: Kerry Date: June 18, 2025, 11:57 pm
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[quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=57.msg1864#msg1864
date=1750307076]
What does anyone make of the significance of the fact that the
big round fluffy Bumble Bee doesn't just inject venum when it
stings but actually leaves its physical sting behind and then
dies as a consequence?
[/quote]Great question, but it's honey bees that do that, not
bumblebees.
HTML https://beevive.com/en-us/blogs/bee-blog/do-bumblebees-sting
I believe each hive has the same mind and same soul. The death
of the individual is not the death of the hive. But why
sacrifice "self" like that? That stinger it leaves behind is
hard to get out since it's barbed. Anyone stung by a female
honey bee is not apt to be much of a continuing threat to the
hive until he gets that stinger out. Other bees can sting
several times.
Bees are not aggressive however. If they approach you, it's not
because they want to sting you. If you let them alone, they'll
mind their own business and let you alone. Last year, some of
the bees in my yard were so used to me, they'd fly past me less
than a foot away from my head. This year, none have done that
yet; but I did have an adventure this year. For about three days
straight, when I was working in the yard a bee would land about
a foot in front of me. It wasn't to collect pollen since it was
landing on plants with only leaves. I got excited thinking
maybe I had another friend, but then it stopped doing it. I
didn't recognize what species it was. Some of the bees are
comfortable enough around me this year that they'll land on
clover flowers or other flowers about two feet away. I get a
kick watching them go from one clover blossom to another.
I'm glad I got rid of the grass and am encouraging the clover to
take over the lawn. It's a lot of weeding for now; but when the
clover gets totally established, it will be very low
maintenance. I gave my lawn mower away. The bee that was my
friend helped motivate me to get rid of the grass and get
something bees could use.
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Re: Bee’s and things
By: Rita Date: June 19, 2025, 1:11 am
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Knowing what we know about bees and their importance with
pollination I find it hard to understand why they would ever be
considered ‘ unclean ‘. They are so important to the nature echo
system , and consequently, us.
For me they are harmful as I am allergic to the sting but over
the years I have equally learned that they attack if they
themselves feel threatened, or the nest. Self defence.
I merely stand still if one is in my face or around me.
I like bees, not keen on wasps but never sure how to tell the
difference. They are still important but don’t produce honey - a
counterfeit. Got to be a spiritual analogy there somewhere xx
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Re: Bee’s and things
By: Helen Date: June 19, 2025, 4:05 pm
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I don’t believe that bees are an unclean creature . What made
them unclean was the lions carcass that they were in..
Honey in the Bible speaks of enlightenment, and always spoken
of positively .
I felt sorry for Jonathan when in the battle he dipped his
sword into honey and was strengthened . Though they’d been told
to not eat until they had won the battle …which I think is a
stupid idea.
I don’t think it was a God idea! Why make soldiers fight why
fasting and weak.
I notice in your post Kerry the Queens beekeeper informed the
bees of the Queens death , respectfully and asked them not to
leave. Yet with the story of the grandad who was a bee keeper .
They swarmed all over his farmhouse ,then hung over his grave
for a week , then never seen again! Obviously no one
respectfully spoke to them. So they had no focus and didnt feel
safe.
I notice that the tradition of talking to them is taken very
lightly and called ‘superstition’…in the article but in hundreds
of cases it been shown to be a proven thing.
The old time preacher/ healer Willian Branham used to speak
to the creation too .
The animals knew that he was good. A possum brought her sick
baby onto his porch for him to heal it and he did . Other
animals too. He learned this by one time being charged at by a
bull as he crossed a field . He turned to it and told it that
God was his maker too and they had one Father who loved them .
The bull stopped and listened . After that he always prayed for
animals .
I remember reading the great preacher John Wesley’s Journal.
Once when he as riding miles to preach , his horse dropped down
u dry him . He laid hands and prayed over it , and it jumped up
and he wasn’t late for the meeting. Which usually consisted of
thousands of people , standing for hours on end , listening in
the open fields of England.
“All creation groans for the manifestation of the sons of
God ..”
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