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#Post#: 1853--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why aren't some people getting their children vaccinated in
Alberta?
By: Kerry Date: June 18, 2025, 12:42 pm
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=56.msg1843#msg1843
date=1750179753]
My quick response would be - “ because of all the hype about
Autisum and Aspburgers ( sp) found in young toddlers who got
the shots ! Too many to be unrelated.
[/quote]So rumors have it. That started when some researcher
wrote a paper about it. The paper was so savagely criticized by
other scientists that he withdrew it. The cat was already out
of the bag however, and many people still believe it.
HTML https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-evidence-on-vaccines-and-autism
The issue was first raised by an article published by Andrew
Wakefield in 1998. He was a GI doctor at the Royal Free Hospital
in London, a very well-known hospital, and he published a paper
in The Lancet, a prestigious journal. He looked at 12 children,
eight of whom the parents reported developing autism after
getting the MMR vaccine.
The study was described as a consecutive case series—but it
wasn’t even really that, because there was no control group or
control period. But even a case series can’t tell you whether
one thing causes another thing. It is simply a description.
But once that paper was published, Wakefield got a lot of press
and told people that he had shown vaccines had caused autism,
which again, that study couldn’t even do.
The paper was ultimately retracted. Within a short amount of
time, several of the authors pulled their names.
There were lots of problems later found with what was published.
For example, the cases were not consecutive [i.e., they did not
include all of the children studied]. They were cherry-picked
cases. And we know that, given that the age when children
receive the MMR is also the age when some children regress into
autism, there will be a temporal relationship; by chance alone,
some children would develop autism after vaccination. So, from a
scientific perspective, the paper didn’t show much.
#Post#: 1854--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why aren't some people getting their children vaccinated in
Alberta?
By: Kerry Date: June 18, 2025, 12:50 pm
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[quote author=Dave link=topic=56.msg1846#msg1846
date=1750188163]
Originally children were never designed for the Government to
take care of them.
Neither were Governments designed to take care of illegal's at
the expense of their own people by a health care system
overwhelmed thru mis management and Pharma' greed, Mr Fauci and
our Chinese lady here are a moot point, both now counting ill
gotten gains I think.
At least we still are democratic enough to let people choose for
their children about vaccines. I see that choice being taken
over by control and funnily it always is supposed to turn out
for our "good"
As an interesting aside, in Jesus time of ministry He was never
bothered by the politic's that happened around him, He came to
do His Fathers will.
Kerry it's interesting to read your views, mainly because you
remind me of my old 'scientific' squash buddy.
Thanks for wheez on Air Force One and blame the Clintons for
your health minister drug lapse LoL.
[/quote]Perhaps parents are more responsible in Canada than they
are here in the US. I could horrify you with stories about
parental abuse from the US. So what should be done with such
parents?
As for the people you call illegals, why are they in Alberta?
Are they like slaves for the people who get them to work for
them? Why does the government tolerate employers doing that?
#Post#: 1874--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why aren't some people getting their children vaccinated in
Alberta?
By: Dave Date: June 19, 2025, 11:55 am
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Our late departed un-esteemed PM left an area of border open
through which people entered without following the legal
procedure to come to Canada, imho that makes then illegal.
The very fact that the 'press' did no exposee's (sp) is
singularly interesting.
Mr Carney was always in the background of our late departed, he
is another who says one thing but does another, as taught in
many of our places of 'higher learning'
Alberta is not where illegals choose to come mainly, the East is
much more conducive for them to integrate.
I know in Ontario labourers come to help with the harvest and
receive the same benefits as the locals, hardly slaves.
As to parental abuse it happens here, also husband wife conflict
is on the rise, known by another name as a family disturbance.
The code of silence operates in the more strict Islamic and
Indian cultures I think here in Calgary.
Lets face it nobody really wants to fully integrate into another
culture, hence we have 30,000 denominations for a church
culture.
If one is abused as a child physically will that produce an
abuser later on? way above my pay scale Kerry.
#Post#: 1918--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why aren't some people getting their children vaccinated in
Alberta?
By: Dave Date: June 24, 2025, 2:23 pm
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As one who was not abused but did receive a reward for breaking
the rules, I've been racking the grey ones to remember if I knew
anyone in my little circle who was, Mr Atkins a 'catholic' he
fathered 16 children, was a quite heavy drinker was known to
give his wife a hard time after the pubs turned out but as far
as I know never abused his kids, and they all lived in one
council house on a rotation basis.
Plus a really fierce school nurse used to check us out at
school.
So I can't answer my own question on, does being abused produce
an abuser later on, so 'over to you Scotty'
#Post#: 1940--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why aren't some people getting their children vaccinated in
Alberta?
By: Kerry Date: June 26, 2025, 3:13 am
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[quote author=Dave link=topic=56.msg1874#msg1874
date=1750352153]
Our late departed un-esteemed PM left an area of border open
through which people entered without following the legal
procedure to come to Canada, imho that makes then illegal.
The very fact that the 'press' did no exposee's (sp) is
singularly interesting.
Mr Carney was always in the background of our late departed, he
is another who says one thing but does another, as taught in
many of our places of 'higher learning'
Alberta is not where illegals choose to come mainly, the East is
much more conducive for them to integrate.
I know in Ontario labourers come to help with the harvest and
receive the same benefits as the locals, hardly slaves.
As to parental abuse it happens here, also husband wife conflict
is on the rise, known by another name as a family disturbance.
The code of silence operates in the more strict Islamic and
Indian cultures I think here in Calgary.
Lets face it nobody really wants to fully integrate into another
culture, hence we have 30,000 denominations for a church
culture.
If one is abused as a child physically will that produce an
abuser later on? way above my pay scale Kerry.
[/quote]I think the abused children can go either way. They can
either decide the way to "win" is the way their parents won with
them; or they can decide to follow the Golden Rule, and knowing
they didn't like being treated that way, refuse to do the same
to their children. So let's hope that immigrants from culture
where abuse is seen as acceptable begin to reject that aspect of
their culture and break the cycle of abuse.
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