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DIR By: Kerry
Date: June 8, 2025, 6:01 pm
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--- Quote from: Helen link ---
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> [member=14]Kerry[/member] said -
> Why would environmentalists want to burn a forest? If
they're really environmentalists, why don't they pay people to
clean up fallen debris that can become a fire hazard? That
would be a next to impossible task considering the size of the
area. I'd guess some other motives for the arsonists. Smoke
from those fires have reached the northern part of Pennsylvania
but I haven't seen it here in the south central part.
>
> If you agree that the whole environment moves is just that
…the fat cats have pushed it and brainwashed people . Canada has
a heavy green agenda . Obviously part is true , but they’ve sold
the global warming hoax on the back of some environmental
dangers . ( extinction of birds , animals and precious bees .)
we are being taxed to death on it, and have many green orders
and laws in place.
> They are making money on the backs of the poor as usual.
> It’s a control money making thing. There may be a handful of
genuine environmentalists in the world , but most are
millionaires wanting even more , it’s a business .
> They pay yobs to burn , so that they can claim how hot
everything is getting , and scare people into more controls .
> You can show me a study on how bad it is by global warming ,
ice melting etc and I’ll show five studies saying just the
opposite . There are fake global scientists, just as there are/
were fake scientist “experts “ writing about Covid 19. Now the
whistle blowers are finally speaking up.
>
> Do I expect you to agree with one word that I have said - No
not at all. Haha! We’ve been around these types of mulberry
bushes many times before …
>
> I’m just doing my soap box thing , as we are being smoked out
and choking here , ….while the forest rangers try hard to catch
the arsonist . I’m sure the arsonists have been paid well……all
part of the One World agenda.
>
> But this is just my view, I never expect anyone to agree. :D
> The good thing is , in a few short years there will be no more
“ conspiracy theories “ …because they are all being proven to be
true at a very fast rate.
>
> Time is a great equalizer .
>
> ….H
>
> PS . I placed this post in this secular section , not wanting
to derail or swamp Pats personal thread .
>
>
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Thanks for putting the response here.
Global warming? I'd say we're seeing climate changes. That may
be one reason I haven't seen any monarch butterflies this year.
I planted milkweed plants just for them but none yet so far.
I would suspect arsonists being paid by a foreign country if I
thought they were being paid. From what I've read arson is more
frequent in Alberta than in other provinces. Are young kids
doing it for kicks? Are they driving their cars deep into an
area with no policing because the forests are so big that they
feel they can get away with it?
I have other questions. What kind of forests are burning? Are
they mostly native species, or have logging companies planted
non-native species?
How serious are the logging companies about cleaning up branches
after they harvest tree trunks? Do they leave them around?
Dead branches like that are a fire hazard.
The government may say things about global warming -- but it
looks to me as if they're not doing a very good job at
maintaining the forests. What is bothering me now is that the
US may start neglecting the forest maintenance programs they've
had in place for a long time.
It's such a complicated subject. I found an article about it but
still can't say I understand what's going on.
HTML https://sanforestry.com/2025/03/24/how-climate-change-is-shaping-the-future-of-logging/<br
/> I did see that company is doing controlled burns -- very
good
-- I had been wondering about that. "Techniques such as
thinning, controlled burns, and selective harvesting are
increasingly used to reduce competition among trees, lower the
risk of pest outbreaks, and mitigate wildfire hazards."
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Re: ******************
DIR By: Helen
Date: June 8, 2025, 7:54 pm
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I’d be very relieved and glad if Canada is burning because of
the bad forest policy, not because of the climate change
fanatics trying to prove their point.
The older I get the more I’m totally disappointed in humanity.
I heard from Bulgaria this morning …my sister in law told me of
a friend who took her old dog who has cancer , miles up the road
to the wilderness ..took him far into the forest , removed his
collar and leash , and left him there to drive home!
My sister in law will now not have her as a friend any more.
Neither will the lady who runs the local Dog Rescue centre ! (
they were good friends )
My sister in law and My brother Robin ( who you all know as
James ) have driven up there and walked the forest calling his
name , for three days running with no response . So very sad.
Totally ruined my day. What’s the matter with people ..
It has to be more than just not knowing God ……the majority of
people don’t know God , yet they don’t manifest such cruelty ,
heartlessness and evil. :'(
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Re: ******************
DIR By: Kerry
Date: June 9, 2025, 1:40 pm
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--- Quote from: Helen link ---
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> I’d be very relieved and glad if Canada is burning because of
the bad forest policy, not because of the climate change
fanatics trying to prove their point.
>
> The older I get the more I’m totally disappointed in humanity.
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It might help if farmers scooped up pine cones from the forest
floor. They can feed them to pigs. Or maybe allowing pig
farmers to have farms near the forest so they could let the pigs
roam around. Pine cones are very flammable when dry. People use
them to start fires in their fire places. I'm hoping the
government takes more action.
I found out that people are planting aspen seedling in a huge
area around Whitehorse. If they get established, their roots go
out underground, probably making in impossible for pines to
spread there. It sounds expensive, but maybe it's worth it?
HTML https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/stopping-wildfires-with-trees-how-thousands-of-aspen-seedlings-could-help-protect-whitehorse-1.7554568
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> I heard from Bulgaria this morning …my sister in law told me
of a friend who took her old dog who has cancer , miles up the
road to the wilderness ..took him far into the forest , removed
his collar and leash , and left him there to drive home!
>
> My sister in law will now not have her as a friend any more.
> Neither will the lady who runs the local Dog Rescue centre ! (
they were good friends )
> My sister in law and My brother Robin ( who you all know as
James ) have driven up there and walked the forest calling his
name , for three days running with no response . So very sad.
> Totally ruined my day. What’s the matter with people ..
> It has to be more than just not knowing God ……the majority of
people don’t know God , yet they don’t manifest such cruelty ,
heartlessness and evil. :'(
>
>
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Bless Robin and your sister-in-law for trying anyway.
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Re: ******************
DIR By: Dave
Date: June 9, 2025, 2:38 pm
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Paul penned, 'The mystery of lawlessness is already (in his day)
at work.
Lawlessness-is rendered, "A state of disorder due to a disregard
of the law, which spawns anarchy, chaos, unrest, misrule,
turmoil and strife"
Our local council have Police with radar in school zones with
illuminated vehicles and the police have to obey to keep the
funds from the city.
As to forest fires, it used to be the Indigenous people who
started them and then got recruited and paid to extinguish them,
they knew the places where to start them as they knew the
forests, plus they didn't want to spend weeks in the smoke.
I don't find throwing cigarettes out of vehicles as careless,
more like a case of 'self'ishness.
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Re: ******************
DIR By: Pat
Date: June 9, 2025, 3:04 pm
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--- Quote from: Helen link ---
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> I’d be very relieved and glad if Canada is burning because of
the bad forest policy, not because of the climate change
fanatics trying to prove their point.
>
> The older I get the more I’m totally disappointed in humanity.
>
> I heard from Bulgaria this morning …my sister in law told me
of a friend who took her old dog who has cancer , miles up the
road to the wilderness ..took him far into the forest , removed
his collar and leash , and left him there to drive home!
>
> My sister in law will now not have her as a friend any more.
> Neither will the lady who runs the local Dog Rescue centre ! (
they were good friends )
> My sister in law and My brother Robin ( who you all know as
James ) have driven up there and walked the forest calling his
name , for three days running with no response . So very sad.
> Totally ruined my day. What’s the matter with people ..
> It has to be more than just not knowing God ……the majority of
people don’t know God , yet they don’t manifest such cruelty ,
heartlessness and evil. :'(
>
>
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what a terrible thing to do to a sick old dog who has been part
of your family. And then to actually tell people what she'd
done, like it was something to be proud of. I don't blame
people for choosing to unfriend her. I think I would have
reported her to the RSPCA if there is a similar organisation in
Bulgaria. so good of Robin to go and search even it was
fruitless. I hope it was because somebody had already found
that dog.
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Re: ******************
DIR By: Pat
Date: June 9, 2025, 3:10 pm
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--- Quote from: Dave link ---
>
> Paul penned, 'The mystery of lawlessness is already (in his
day) at work.
> Lawlessness-is rendered, "A state of disorder due to a
disregard of the law, which spawns anarchy, chaos, unrest,
misrule, turmoil and strife"
>
> Our local council have Police with radar in school zones with
illuminated vehicles and the police have to obey to keep the
funds from the city.
>
> As to forest fires, it used to be the Indigenous people who
started them and then got recruited and paid to extinguish them,
they knew the places where to start them as they knew the
forests, plus they didn't want to spend weeks in the smoke.
> I don't find throwing cigarettes out of vehicles as careless,
more like a case of 'self'ishness.
>
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I live near the Pennine moors and although it's a lesser scale
there are often wildfires above our town. and also some of the
moors around Manchester. A few years ago one such fire blazed
and spread for over six weeks on the moors above Bolton before
they got it under control. That year they had to alter the
route of the Ironman race as the original route was dangerously
near the burning area.
#Post#: 1746--------------------------------------------------
Re: ******************
DIR By: Helen
Date: June 9, 2025, 4:04 pm
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--- Quote from: Pat link ---
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> I live near the Pennine moors and although it's a lesser scale
there are often wildfires above our town. and also some of the
moors around Manchester. A few years ago one such fire blazed
and spread for over six weeks on the moors above Bolton before
they got it under control. That year they had to alter the
route of the Ironman race as the original route was dangerously
near the burning area.
>
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I didn’t know that . Except for the New Forest , I haven’t a
clue on how much forest is left in England that could burn! It
would be even worse if they did it there on purpose , with so
little protection already for the wildlife. The latest count
here for our province is 29 forest fires.
The smoke doesn’t seem too bad today .
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Re: ******************
DIR By: Dave
Date: June 9, 2025, 6:03 pm
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As to the left dog in the woods, maybe we should be more
concerned with the lady’s mental state, to do that is not
normal, maybe she’s planning something similar for herself, just
a thought.
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Re: ******************
DIR By: Kerry
Date: June 10, 2025, 9:26 am
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--- Quote from: Pat link ---
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> I live near the Pennine moors and although it's a lesser scale
there are often wildfires above our town. and also some of the
moors around Manchester. A few years ago one such fire blazed
and spread for over six weeks on the moors above Bolton before
they got it under control. That year they had to alter the
route of the Ironman race as the original route was dangerously
near the burning area.
>
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I hadn't heard of that fire, I found an article by the BBC
from September last year which tells what's going on there now.
Some plants are coming back and some birds too; but it's a slow
process.
HTML https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjwdlqye3nxo
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Re: ******************
DIR By: Pat
Date: June 10, 2025, 9:48 am
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--- Quote from: Kerry link ---
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> I hadn't heard of that fire, I found an article by the BBC
from September last year which tells what's going on there now.
Some plants are coming back and some birds too; but it's a slow
process.
HTML https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjwdlqye3nxo
>
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The fire was on the moors near Winter Hill and Saddleworth Moors
Nothing to compare with the LA wildfires though.
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