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       Hymns can help. 
       By: Kerry Date: June 5, 2025, 3:45 am
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       Not sure I'm in the right place here. Let me know  if it's in
       the wrong place.  For some reason, the song about balm in Gilead
       came to mind. If I ever knew what Scripture was being referred
       to, I'd forgotten it so I looked it up. Wikipedia had a very
       interesting article on it too.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXqs7TORCAY
       It still remains more popular with black people than white.  I'm
       not sure how I first ran across it.  My Mother took me to a
       black church once when I was young.  I remember the songs they
       sang weren't the songs our church did; but I don't know if they
       sang this song.  I do remember however how welcome I felt there.
       We were the only white people in the pews, but I soon relaxed
       and it was great.  I found a white choir singing this
       traditionally black hymn.  The link for Wikipedia, if you're
       interested is:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Is_a_Balm_in_Gilead#
       #Post#: 1695--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hymns can help. 
       By: Pat Date: June 5, 2025, 5:54 am
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       [quote author=Kerry link=topic=52.msg1694#msg1694
       date=1749113135]
       Not sure I'm in the right place here. Let me know  if it's in
       the wrong place.  For some reason, the song about balm in Gilead
       came to mind. If I ever knew what Scripture was being referred
       to, I'd forgotten it so I looked it up. Wikipedia had a very
       interesting article on it too.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXqs7TORCAY
       It still remains more popular with black people than white.  I'm
       not sure how I first ran across it.  My Mother took me to a
       black church once when I was young.  I remember the songs they
       sang weren't the songs our church did; but I don't know if they
       sang this song.  I do remember however how welcome I felt there.
       We were the only white people in the pews, but I soon relaxed
       and it was great.  I found a white choir singing this
       traditionally black hymn.  The link for Wikipedia, if you're
       interested is:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Is_a_Balm_in_Gilead#
       [/quote]
       I've never heard this one before Kerry, but I often find the
       words of hymns going round in my brain.  A few years ago I
       suffered badly with shingles which was the most painful thing I
       ever experienced.  It was too painful to lie down and i spent
       about a month to six weeks on my sofa.  it was winter and thee
       nights were very long and I was very near to wanting to give up
       and die.  The song that kept me going was the Old Rugged Cross.
       Up till that time I hadn't really liked it much but it helped me
       to cling to the cross of Jesus and keep on clinging to Him was
       all I could do.
       #Post#: 1696--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hymns can help. 
       By: Mike Waters Date: June 5, 2025, 9:41 am
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       [quote author=Kerry link=topic=52.msg1694#msg1694
       date=1749113135]
       Not sure I'm in the right place here. Let me know  if it's in
       the wrong place.  =
       [/quote]
       I reckon that you're a better fit in this forum than I am.
       On self examination I realise that whereas small 'c' catholicism
       is my 'ideal' for a Christian forum, I'm well aware that I fall
       well short of that ideal.
       Wadya make of that?
       #Post#: 1697--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hymns can help. 
       By: Mike Waters Date: June 5, 2025, 10:00 am
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       [quote author=Kerry link=topic=52.msg1694#msg1694
       date=1749113135]
       For some reason, the song about balm in Gilead came to mind. If
       I ever knew what Scripture was being referred to, I'd forgotten
       it so I looked it up. Wikipedia had a very interesting article
       on it too.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXqs7TORCAY
       It still remains more popular with black people than white.  I'm
       not sure how I first ran across it.  My Mother took me to a
       black church once when I was young.  I remember the songs they
       sang weren't the songs our church did; but I don't know if they
       sang this song.  I do remember however how welcome I felt there.
       We were the only white people in the pews, but I soon relaxed
       and it was great.  I found a white choir singing this
       traditionally black hymn.  The link for Wikipedia, if you're
       interested is:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Is_a_Balm_in_Gilead#
       [/quote]
       I just love what used to be called 'Negro' Spirituals.
       O Lord you know, I have no friend but you
       If Heaven's not my home then Lord what will I do
       The angels beckon me from Heaven's open door
       And I can't feel at Home in this world any more.
       In all honesty I have to admit that Hymns and Spiritual songs is
       my biggest source of 'uplift'.
       'Balm in Gilead' just blew my mind .... sheer nectar.
       Thank you so much Kerry.
       #Post#: 1698--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hymns can help. 
       By: Helen Date: June 5, 2025, 10:08 am
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       Thank you , just perfect. I’ve never heard it before.💞
       #Post#: 1701--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hymns can help. 
       By: Kerry Date: June 5, 2025, 11:17 am
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       [quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=52.msg1697#msg1697
       date=1749135602]
       I just love what used to be called 'Negro' Spirituals.
       O Lord you know, I have no friend but you
       If Heaven's not my home then Lord what will I do
       The angels beckon me from Heaven's open door
       And I can't feel at Home in this world any more.
       In all honesty I have to admit that Hymns and Spiritual songs is
       my biggest source of 'uplift'.
       'Balm in Gilead' just blew my mind .... sheer nectar.
       Thank you so much Kerry.
       [/quote]And thank you too.  I hadn't heard that song in ages so
       I looked it up to hear it.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ndMZqT6i4I
       #Post#: 1702--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hymns can help. 
       By: Mike Waters Date: June 5, 2025, 11:25 am
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       [quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=52.msg1697#msg1697
       date=1749135602]
       I just love what used to be called 'Negro' Spirituals.
       O Lord you know, I have no friend but you
       If Heaven's not my home then Lord what will I do
       The angels beckon me from Heaven's open door
       And I can't feel at Home in this world any more.
       In all honesty I have to admit that Hymns and Spiritual songs is
       my biggest source of 'uplift'.
       'Balm in Gilead' just blew my mind .... sheer nectar.
       Thank you so much Kerry.
       [/quote]
       Let us not forget that all of these songs were cries from the
       heart of the 'Oppressed'
       Negro slavery for example
       Then you have the so called 'Welsh Revival', spawned as a
       pressure relief valve for men who had no other way of 'earning a
       living' other that to toil for long hours in the terrible and
       dangerous environment of small 'pit propped' and often water
       logged underground tunnels.
       #Post#: 1704--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hymns can help. 
       By: Kerry Date: June 5, 2025, 11:32 am
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       [quote author=Pat link=topic=52.msg1695#msg1695 date=1749120863]
       I've never heard this one before Kerry, but I often find the
       words of hymns going round in my brain.  A few years ago I
       suffered badly with shingles which was the most painful thing I
       ever experienced.  It was too painful to lie down and i spent
       about a month to six weeks on my sofa.  it was winter and thee
       nights were very long and I was very near to wanting to give up
       and die.  The song that kept me going was the Old Rugged Cross.
       Up till that time I hadn't really liked it much but it helped me
       to cling to the cross of Jesus and keep on clinging to Him was
       all I could do.
       [/quote]One of my sisters had shingles.  It's horrible!
       The song The Old Rugged Cross always reminds me of a couple who
       used to sing it in our church.  People could arrange to sing
       songs; and when they sang for us, it was almost always that.  I
       never found out why; but they never had children -- I wonder if
       it could have been that or something else?
       This version was done in  the church where the song was first
       sung.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAHQr_DirY
       
       #Post#: 1705--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hymns can help. 
       By: Kerry Date: June 5, 2025, 11:44 am
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       [quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=52.msg1702#msg1702
       date=1749140744]
       Let us not forget that all of these songs were cries from the
       heart of the 'Oppressed'
       Negro slavery for example
       Then you have the so called 'Welsh Revival', spawned as a
       pressure relief valve for men who had no other way of 'earning a
       living' other that to toil for long hours in the terrible and
       dangerous environment of small 'pit propped' and often water
       logged underground tunnels.
       [/quote]While slavery was a terrible thing, I've found that
       black people now often value freedom more than white people; and
       many blacks are better Christians too.   It saddens me to see
       the problems vexing the black community here in the US.
       Did you know about Paul Robeson visiting miners in Scotland?
       The song can be seen as  more political than religious; but it
       shows how he was on the side of the oppressed.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0bezsMVU7c
       #Post#: 1708--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hymns can help. 
       By: Helen Date: June 5, 2025, 3:01 pm
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       Wow! I enjoyed that…it gave me goose bumps when he sang .
       👏👏👏
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