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Re: As for me
By: Mike Waters Date: October 26, 2025, 2:17 pm
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Thanks Helen, it's comforting to not be entirely 'alone'.
Although it's a rarity to find anyone 'with me' on the 'Limited
Intervention' aspect.
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Re: As for me
By: KerryD Date: October 26, 2025, 3:02 pm
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[quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=34.msg2555#msg2555
date=1761506254]
Thanks Helen, it's comforting to not be entirely 'alone'.
Although it's a rarity to find anyone 'with me' on the 'Limited
Intervention' aspect.
[/quote]One trick of the Dark Side is to get us thinking about
self. We start worrying and fretting -- and speaking for
myself, hating. Yes, I can go into moods of hating others once
I start thinking about myself.
One way of breaking out of prison is to doing favors for others
if you can. Kind words and kind deeds, even if small, help
since they prove you are a loving person, that you still have
something to give. If you have some assets you don't need, you
can contribute something to charity. Again it doesn't have to
be a big amount.
We can also pray. Sometimes I don't know what to pray for, so
my prayer is "Thy Will be done." Never, never, never take the
idea seriously that you are a needy person with nothing to give
to others. It may look like that at times, but it is a lie
from the Dark Side. God is Love, and we were all made in His
image and likeness. No matter what others do, no matter how
much of the world fails to be loving, remember we were put here
to learn how to love others.
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Re: As for me
By: Mike Waters Date: October 26, 2025, 4:29 pm
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[quote author=KerryD link=topic=34.msg2556#msg2556
date=1761508921]
God is Love, and we were all made in His image and likeness. No
matter what others do, no matter how much of the world fails to
be loving, remember we were put here to learn how to love
others.
[/quote]
What ever your intention Kerry, you sent me searching my heart.
"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have
not love I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all
mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so
that I could remove mountains, and do not love, I am nothing.
Love suffers long, and is kind; love does not envy; love does
not vaunt itself, and is not puffed up. Love never fails: but
whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be
tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall
vanish away, for we know in part, and we prophesy in part, but
when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part
shall be done away, for now we see through a glass, darkly; but
then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know
even as also I am known. But now abides faith, hope, and love,
but the greatest of these is Love."
I have a little 'Faith'.
I have plenty of 'Hope'.
But I guess that I'm lacking in 'Love'.
I've been far too engaged in trying to straighten out everyone's
'Theology'.
I almost wish that I could go back and delete all my posts.
By God's grace I pray that I can make amends and never post
again, other than in 'Love'.
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Re: As for me
By: KerryD Date: October 27, 2025, 4:13 am
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[quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=34.msg2557#msg2557
date=1761514198]
What ever your intention Kerry, you sent me searching my heart.
"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have
not love I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all
mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so
that I could remove mountains, and do not love, I am nothing.
Love suffers long, and is kind; love does not envy; love does
not vaunt itself, and is not puffed up. Love never fails: but
whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be
tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall
vanish away, for we know in part, and we prophesy in part, but
when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part
shall be done away, for now we see through a glass, darkly; but
then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know
even as also I am known. But now abides faith, hope, and love,
but the greatest of these is Love."
I have a little 'Faith'.
I have plenty of 'Hope'.
But I guess that I'm lacking in 'Love'.
I've been far too engaged in trying to straighten out everyone's
'Theology'.
I almost wish that I could go back and delete all my posts.
By God's grace I pray that I can make amends and never post
again, other than in 'Love'.
[/quote]I find my faith is still weak. The passage which you
quoted comforts me. (Thanks, Paul!) I was "gifted" as a child
spiritually; and later as an adult too. But then suddenly my
visions ceased. I asked myself if I had sinned? Why had I been
cut off from Heaven? Was I lost? Was I damned? Then Paul's
words came to mind. The body malfunctions; and it takes so much
of our focus, it is an obstacle to the spiritual connection.
I also likely was guilty in some way of pride; and the cessation
of visions cut me down to size. It was time for me to stop
enjoying that spiritual connection and to start living more on
this earth. I may feel as if God isn't showing me His Love; but
that's a selfish way of thinking. If I love God but can't feel
a connection, I can still love other people. It was time for me
to take John more seriously:
1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he
is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen,
how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
And when I find myself yearning for a vision, other words of
Paul come to mind about giving thanks in all things. Thus I am
grateful in a way I have no visons now. I think -- I hope --
it's making me a better person.
I am convinced, Mike, that God would call us home if it was
impossible for us to make progress of some sort. I remind you,
however, that it can be an error to dwell too much on past
errors. We all make mistakes and all God wants from us is that
we learn from them so we don't repeat them. We cannot cry over
spilled milk.
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Re: As for me
By: Helen Date: October 27, 2025, 9:12 am
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[quote author=KerryD link=topic=34.msg2558#msg2558
date=1761556399]
I find my faith is still weak. The passage which you quoted
comforts me. (Thanks, Paul!) I was "gifted" as a child
spiritually; and later as an adult too. But then suddenly my
visions ceased. I asked myself if I had sinned? Why had I been
cut off from Heaven? Was I lost? Was I damned? Then Paul's
words came to mind. The body malfunctions; and it takes so much
of our focus, it is an obstacle to the spiritual connection.
I also likely was guilty in some way of pride; and the cessation
of visions cut me down to size. It was time for me to stop
enjoying that spiritual connection and to start living more on
this earth. I may feel as if God isn't showing me His Love; but
that's a selfish way of thinking. If I love God but can't feel
a connection, I can still love other people. It was time for me
to take John more seriously:
1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he
is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen,
how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
And when I find myself yearning for a vision, other words of
Paul come to mind about giving thanks in all things. Thus I am
grateful in a way I have no visons now. I think -- I hope --
it's making me a better person.
I am convinced, Mike, that God would call us home if it was
impossible for us to make progress of some sort. I remind you,
however, that it can be an error to dwell too much on past
errors. We all make mistakes and all God wants from us is that
we learn from them so we don't repeat them. We cannot cry over
spilled milk.
[/quote]
I can say Ditto, Kerry.
Though my visions were less than my dreams , which we know are
‘night visions’.
Plus it also depends on our circle of influence at the time.
Our gifting are for the body of Christ , edification exaltation
and comfort…not ourselves . I’m guessing we are all much less
active in the church than we used to be , back then.
I believe in our early days we need more confirmation and
encouragement from the Lord , but as we mature I find our walk
is more and more ‘by faith ‘.
We see from scripture that one time , it was 25yrs between God
speaking to Abraham.
Not that we could or would want 25 years of silence.
For me it seems that The Father has ‘said’ all that He has to
say …the rest of the runway is ‘all by faith .’ :)
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Re: As for me
By: Mike Waters Date: October 27, 2025, 3:32 pm
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[quote author=KerryD link=topic=34.msg2558#msg2558
date=1761556399]
I find my faith is still weak. The passage which you quoted
comforts me. (Thanks, Paul!) I was "gifted" as a child
spiritually; and later as an adult too. But then suddenly my
visions ceased. I asked myself if I had sinned? Why had I been
cut off from Heaven? Was I lost? Was I damned? Then Paul's
words came to mind. The body malfunctions; and it takes so much
of our focus, it is an obstacle to the spiritual connection.
I also likely was guilty in some way of pride; and the cessation
of visions cut me down to size. It was time for me to stop
enjoying that spiritual connection and to start living more on
this earth. I may feel as if God isn't showing me His Love; but
that's a selfish way of thinking. If I love God but can't feel
a connection, I can still love other people. It was time for me
to take John more seriously:
1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he
is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen,
how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
And when I find myself yearning for a vision, other words of
Paul come to mind about giving thanks in all things. Thus I am
grateful in a way I have no visons now. I think -- I hope --
it's making me a better person.
I am convinced, Mike, that God would call us home if it was
impossible for us to make progress of some sort. I remind you,
however, that it can be an error to dwell too much on past
errors. We all make mistakes and all God wants from us is that
we learn from them so we don't repeat them. We cannot cry over
spilled milk.
[/quote]
One post to go before we welcome you as a very senior 'junior'
member.
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Re: As for me
By: KerryD Date: October 27, 2025, 11:26 pm
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=34.msg2559#msg2559
date=1761574347]
I can say Ditto, Kerry.
Though my visions were less than my dreams , which we know are
‘night visions’.
Plus it also depends on our circle of influence at the time.
Our gifting are for the body of Christ , edification exaltation
and comfort…not ourselves . I’m guessing we are all much less
active in the church than we used to be , back then. [/quote]
I hope there was a replacement for you when your term of service
was waning.
[quote]I believe in our early days we need more confirmation and
encouragement from the Lord , but as we mature I find our walk
is more and more ‘by faith ‘.
We see from scripture that one time , it was 25yrs between God
speaking to Abraham.
Not that we could or would want 25 years of silence.
For me it seems that The Father has ‘said’ all that He has to
say …the rest of the runway is ‘all by faith .’ :)[/quote]
Yes, and if we lack Love for God, I think we may falter in our
faith. Love is the tie which binds.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RUu93KoX-0
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Re: As for me
By: KerryD Date: October 27, 2025, 11:28 pm
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[quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=34.msg2560#msg2560
date=1761597125]
One post to go before we welcome you as a very senior 'junior'
member.
[/quote]Ha, I don't feel very junior these days. . . .
#Post#: 2565--------------------------------------------------
Re: Paul
By: Dave Date: October 28, 2025, 3:05 pm
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I was thinking of an old Welsh hymn this morning, “A Debtor to
Mercy Alone”
Evidently Augustus Montague Toplady penned it.
This is a good one when your faith is feeling floppy,
It’s thought he wrote as an ode to Phil 1-6
“ Which is Being confident of this very thing, that He which
hath begun a good work in you will perform until the day of
Jesus Christ”
The second verse reads.
The work which His goodness began,
The arm of His strength will complete;
His promise is yea and amen,
And never was forfeited yet.
Things future, nor things which are now,
Not all things below or above
Can make Him His purpose forgo,
Or sever my soul from His love.
The first two lines of three go,
My name from the palms of His hands
Eternity will not erase;
Now that’s living!!!
We had a ex Salvation Army lady who would not play it because
it’s all in minor keys.
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