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       Re: Happy Posting
   DIR By: Rita
       Date: August 14, 2023, 11:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: Dave link ---
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       > I've given this a bit of thought before replying, there are
       about 80 mentions of  'abominations' in scripture, but the
       homosexual one gets the most christian attention.
       >
       > I was a bit curious as to why this in the 'sin' category was
       more than just 'sin' in the churches eyes, I'm one who never
       knew what a homosexual was until I was 18 and a man tried to
       pick me up in a restaurant in London, I was in the Army at Mill
       Hill, so I asked a friend and he filled me in ,and it seems it
       was standard practice to make a few bob  ($$) in Hyde park after
       dark, so I was probably in the same league as Rita's dad and
       even as a Christian they didn't disappear, even with limited
       exposure, coming to Canada and working in the interior designers
       put me right in the midst, it's odd but I seemed to react like
       it was disease.
       > And most are very gracious, but I was still in the- 'if I
       dropped something, I would still "kick with my foot and not bend
       down" mode, am I comfortable around them, my answer is no.
       > Im never very comfortable with things I cannot wrap my head
       around.
       >
       > I have grown up, I'm past the crushing their hands in a
       handshake now.
       > So the next biggy is how should I treat them,-  "love the
       sinner hate the sin" to me is a bit of a cliche if it just
       leaves me complacent. One thing I do try and do is show
       kindness, the pattern Son showed kindness to all sinners, except
       the religious ones!
       >
       > And my belief is, that the spirit behind homosexuality is an
       anti-Christ spirit ,I say this because it wreaks havoc , and in
       it's wake and is NOT a 'face to face' love experience.
       > The face-to-face is Gods mode of loving, Israel on the mount
       avoided a face to face with God when He said He would come down
       unto them and talk with them..they said No..and they chose Moses
       to go up instead.... and they are still paying a price for that.
       >
       > I'm probably a minority on where I see the issue, but as it
       took me a long time before I could even hug a Brother in Church
       it doesn't come easily to me.
       > That said- we do have two close homosexual friends ( both we
       knew before they even knew that the they were)
       >
       > So for me and my house , the biggest issue is the 'anti-Christ
       ' spirit that drives them.
       > Gods Plan is making a Bride fit for his Son..
       > Two males cannot produce Life , not an ounce...and God is all
       about producing life.
       > Thats His Plan.
       >
       > .
       > ,
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I have always struggled with the issue as a Christian, but I
       constantly look at things from the prospective of the real
       battle and the fact that people don’t see or know about that
       most of the time. Are they not victims as much as anyone else
       being influenced by something going on in a realm that they
       cannot see. Nothing is ‘ as God intended. If it is an ‘ anti
       -Christ ‘ spirit ( I am presuming you mean an actual spirit that
       influences ) what causes that influence to take hold, what opens
       the door?
       We know that homosexuality has been around for such a long time
       ( considering it is mentioned in the early history of Gods
       people ) Is it generational tie ?
       The thing that I dislike is the hatred that some Christian’s
       have towards this group of people. I cannot hate them, I don’t
       agree with the life style or the way that they want special
       treatment within society, I don’t agree with two dads raising
       children, or two mums, I don’t agree with the marriage ect, but
       they are still people who are caught in a battle that is way
       bigger than us. They are still lost, they are still in need of
       Jesus.
       That battle exists for all of us, only difference is that what
       we often battle with different spiritual influences and we can
       still be acceptable to other Christians - accept perhaps my sin
       of divorce as that places me in the firing line from time to
       time.
       You mention about the church being ‘ the bride ‘ well that is
       about belonging to him , all of us are not perfected yet and
       Life in itself will be ‘ as it is meant to be ‘ when that
       finally happens. Remember the book ‘ love wins ‘ ……
       There is always a time of preparation before the wedding, yes
       some will need to go through the refiners fire , as we do once
       we come to faith and allow Jesus to change us and deal with
       things. …………
       Sorry this last part is a bit rushed as I have to get ready for
       work …………
       I only read your response this morning xxxx
       #Post#: 570--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Happy Posting
   DIR By: Dave
       Date: August 15, 2023, 12:41 pm
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       Thanks Rita, as always good and valid points, it's odd that
       Jesus knew Judas was knicking a few shekels from the bag but as
       an 'issue' it is never addressed.
       Jesus called him knowing his problem, was he allowing him time
       to say, 'I have a problem' if so, that also raises the question
       of the betraying to fulfill scripture bit!!!!!!
       If we accept that homosexuality is 'just' an alternative life
       style does that change it into a different category than say the
       child molester or rapist, which used to get you locked up.
       As I say, I'm trying to wrap my head around what I think as I've
       never really had to address it as an issue, Jesus in addressing
       lifestyles, the writing in the sand comes to mind which ends
       with 'go and sin no more' meaning, make sure your lamb is
       perfect.
       As He was The Ultimate Lamb which would take the sin of the
       world and have it nailed to his cross are we now as believers
       just as the song says, too 'Love,love,love.'
       It seems to me that with patience homosexuals have got
       themselves into positions of authority and have become the head
       not the tail, which I see as the work of a spirit.
       Could the whole sexual revolution just be a vial poured out???
       A preacher I know with a following claimed many years ago to
       have been delivered but now embraces the lifestyle as a norm,
       and preaches the Good News gospel.
       In reading Roms 1 again, it seems a case that hinges on who's
       righteousness are we holding as truth.
       It, like many things will at the end get the heat treatment and
       God will get the GLORY.
       #Post#: 571--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Happy Posting
   DIR By: Rita
       Date: August 15, 2023, 2:30 pm
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       I haven’t got my head around it Dave, it’s always been a
       difficult issue to handle. I have found it harder to deal with
       since Dan came to faith , he is bi sexual and has no convictions
       that it is wrong and looks upon the whole issue in a different
       way to me - yet we are on the same page with most things.
       #Post#: 575--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Happy Posting
   DIR By: Dave
       Date: August 16, 2023, 10:52 am
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       My final note Rita on this subject is (wait for it) I shan’t be
       buying their flag🤣🤣.
       This verse popped up as I was out walking;
       “For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the
       Lord, thoughts of peace, and not evil(calamity) to give you an
       expected end” (a future and a hope).
  HTML https://youtu.be/1zo3fJYtS-o
       This might be a ‘word’ for someone.
       #Post#: 578--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Happy Posting
   DIR By: Nancy
       Date: August 16, 2023, 6:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: Dave link ---
       >
       > And most are very gracious, but I was still in the- 'if I
       dropped something, I would still "kick with my foot and not bend
       down" mode, am I comfortable around them, my answer is no.
       > Im never very comfortable with things I cannot wrap my head
       around.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks, Dave, for your response.  The part above got a laugh out
       of me.  Gay guys, tho, are like the rest of us and have certain
       "types" they like, so you might be safe. Maybe, lol! I know many
       people are still uncomfortable thinking too deeply about
       homosexuality, I suppose, because, it's true, being "straight"
       we can't wrap our heads around it. Yet, in the workplace, all
       people should be evaluated on how well they do their job. We
       were sad to lose good nurses.  And,"shaming", as Pat said,
       rarely has any positive benefit at all. If people could have
       just kept their mind on the care needs of the residents, things
       might have gone smoothly.  Honestly, tho, that community is
       steeped in gossip and everyone seems to (think they) know
       everything about everyone.  Amazing all the drama, especially in
       the cafeteria, I hear.  And this nursing home has Happy Hour
       once a week.  With alcohol. Kevin claims it's a riot.  I dunno
       ...
       #Post#: 580--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Happy Posting
   DIR By: Rita
       Date: August 17, 2023, 12:14 am
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       --- Quote from: Dave link ---
       >
       > My final note Rita on this subject is (wait for it) I shan’t
       be buying their flag🤣🤣.
       >
       > This verse popped up as I was out walking;
       > Nor will I !!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Happy Posting
   DIR By: Dave
       Date: August 17, 2023, 2:07 pm
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       I've always quandried/sp that saying, 'that no news is good
       news' to me, it's just still no news.
       But here is some news, just served Helen her very hot dinner and
       she malfunctioned with the tray and the 'hot' ended up on her
       midriff causing great consternation and a couple of nasty burns,
       a quick application of a Aloe Vera stem, and a quick prayer
       thanking the Lord that it was not worse.
       So Mike we pray one for another that we may get  healed,
       Blessings, a quick word to all, don't go to the bathroom and
       avoid very hot meals.Lol.
       #Post#: 584--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Happy Posting
   DIR By: Rita
       Date: August 17, 2023, 11:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: Dave link ---
       >
       >
       > But here is some news, just served Helen her very hot dinner
       and she malfunctioned with the tray and the 'hot' ended up on
       her midriff causing great consternation and a couple of nasty
       burns, a quick application of a Aloe Vera stem, and a quick
       prayer thanking the Lord that it was not worse.
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sure hope the burns are healing, I did that about six months ago
       , but with boiling water. I had a small hot water bottle and I
       didn’t know the cap was not on tight enough. I had to jump up
       quick out of bed and just go under the shower ( cold water )
       sadly I had no aloe Vera ……it did help and prevented it
       blistering, but it did need dressing for about a week.
       #Post#: 588--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Happy Posting
   DIR By: Rita
       Date: August 20, 2023, 3:57 am
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       Football fever ………..come on lionesses, let’s win the World Cup
       !!!!!!!!!!
       Football needs to come home so that they can finally lay 1966 to
       rest !😂😂😂😂😂😂
       #Post#: 590--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Happy Posting
   DIR By: Pat
       Date: August 20, 2023, 6:21 am
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       --- Quote from: Rita link ---
       >
       > Football fever ………..come on lionesses, let’s win the World Cup
       !!!!!!!!!!
       >
       > Football needs to come home so that they can finally lay 1966
       to rest !😂😂😂😂😂😂
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We are supposed to be going out today but can't go until
       everybody has watched the Lionesses.
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