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Meeting of September 8th, 2013
DIR By: Faerdin
Date: October 5, 2013, 3:07 pm
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Faerdin (BoH): Now... 14:13
Faerdin (BoH): This is the first meeting on this scale in...
well, forever. 14:13
AsmodeusCainTCG: I think we had one earlier 14:13
AsmodeusCainTCG: even more people came 14:13
Faerdin (BoH): Which is probably good for us since we've gone
through a sort of spell of never visiting each other's chats.
14:13
AsmodeusCainTCG: it was huge 14:13
Faerdin (BoH): Really? o-o 14:13
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Who's note-taking? 14:13
Mort: Hardly of this magnitude Cain. 14:14
AsmodeusCainTCG: it was the one that I showed up to my accident
14:14
Gingkage (BoH): I am. 14:14
Break(APR): I visit BoH all the times. >​.>​ 14:14
Faerdin (BoH) snugs Ging in thanks 14:14
AsmodeusCainTCG: I visit everyone a lot 14:14
Hopeful Guy (TCG): No, only 10 did, Cain. 14:14
Shad(APR): Ahem. Fae was talking 14:14
Dragonknight315 (APR): Back. 14:14
Gingkage (BoH) is snugged. 14:14
AsmodeusCainTCG: really? 14:14
Mort: Can we move on? 14:14
Faerdin (BoH): There are some constant visitors *Looks at Break
and Asmodeus* but a good deal of us just don't visit. 14:14
AsmodeusCainTCG: ummmmm 14:14
Dragonknight315 (APR): Please? Can we stop the chaos for two
seconds? 14:14
AsmodeusCainTCG: we has problem 14:14
Gingkage (BoH): Oh. Since Chatzy unhilights text whenever people
talk, I may periodically ask people to not say anything. Please
humor me if I do so. 14:14
Hopeful Guy (TCG): My fault. D: 14:14
Break(APR): Chaos is part of the system, Deka. 14:15
AsmodeusCainTCG: too many people typing too fast 14:15
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I really need to encourage us to go on other
chats. 14:15
Veranex (APR): No offence, I do love you guys, but I don't want
to be here for hours 14:15
Faerdin (BoH): *Nodnod* 14:15
AsmodeusCainTCG: yeah 14:15
Shad(APR): Guys. Shush whyile Fae talks. please. 14:15
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We should have a system of turntaking. 14:15
Veranex (APR): Could we get started on the meeting and then be
wild and crazy after? 14:15
AsmodeusCainTCG: cuz I has an essay to write 14:15
Faerdin (BoH): I understand that, Vera. Which is why we are
charging recklessly into the first point. ;D 14:15
Dragonknight315 (APR): *Nods as well* I say those who arnt
leading this show should be quiet for a moment. 14:15
Faerdin (BoH): I. Ultimate Unity Art Competition 14:16
Faerdin (BoH): The UUAC failed. Abysmally. .-. 14:16
AsmodeusCainTCG: I'll say 14:16
Faerdin (BoH): I think we're all well-aware of that. 14:16
Faerdin (BoH): But now's the time for us to do some
damage-control and look at why it failed. 14:16
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I have some entries, 5 months late.
HTML http://i.imgur.com/hJEJhfz.jpg
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/>14:16
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Does that mean I win because no-one else
entered? 14:16
AsmodeusCainTCG: ...I'm thinking that's part of the problem
14:17
Joerte (TCG): I entered I think 14:17
AsmodeusCainTCG: although those are nice pics 14:17
Dragonknight315 (APR): GUYS. Can we let Fae continue? 14:17
Gingkage (BoH): I entered. And then heard nothing about the
contest. 14:17
Mort: Everyone. Focus. 14:17
Gingkage (BoH): When was the deadline? What were the rules?
14:17
Shad(APR): ...still not a discussion Im sure guys. 14:17
Faerdin (BoH): That was all I was really going to say. We just
need to discuss the issue here now. xD 14:17
Faerdin (BoH): So where and why did it go wrong? 14:17
AsmodeusCainTCG: ok 14:18
Sainsbo(APR): People just didn't seem too interested. Everyone
was told about it, and no one entered from APR. Maybe the timing
was slightly out, and everyone was busy or something. 14:18
AsmodeusCainTCG: we didn't have a deadline 14:18
Hopeful Guy (TCG): On topic: it failed because we couldn't
co-ordinate our actions. 14:18
Veranex (APR): What Sains said 14:18
Gingkage (BoH): Being summoned 14:18
Titan (APR): I think it wasn't advertised enough 14:18
Shad(APR): No deadline, lack of communication 14:18
Veranex (APR): Or it could be some people weren't really wanting
to do it 14:18
Faerdin (BoH): And what Hopeful Guy said is still relevant even
now. 14:18
Titan (APR): Also there was no real 'prize' per say 14:18
Faerdin (BoH): Our lack of coordination sort of lead to the
confusion about this exact meeting. Dx 14:18
Hopeful Guy (TCG): If we had been communicating regularly and
agreed on everything, it would have been a success. 14:18
Shad(APR): xD. 14:18
Hopeful Guy (TCG): That's the last point on the agenda,
actually. 14:19
Gingkage (BoH): Back. 14:19
Titan (APR): So... it kind of fell into the dark with no one
knowing what was going on 14:19
Shad(APR): agree we tdl 14:19
Break(APR): It got lost in the communication gaps, really. 14:19
Faerdin (BoH): *Nodnod* And we'll discuss it more in-depth
there. 14:19
Titan (APR): Inter-clan communication is low 14:19
Shad(APR): with 14:19
Hopeful Guy (TCG): One sec: Ging, you might be better off taking
screenies. 14:20
Hopeful Guy (TCG): This is fast. 14:20
Shad(APR): Or when a point is done everyine shuts up 14:20
Gingkage (BoH): Screenies would take me even longer. 14:20
Faerdin (BoH): The subject matter not being interesting for a
wide variety of members, lack of a communication or specific
deadline, lack of advertisement, and lack of a decided prize...
14:20
Shad(APR): so Ging can copy. 14:20
Faerdin (BoH): of communication* Dx 14:20
Gingkage (BoH): With this, I can simply ask for a few seconds of
quiet if I need to and highlight everything. 14:20
Faerdin (BoH): All of these things, I feel, are highly relevant.
14:20
Hopeful Guy (TCG): That's a good point, Fae; very few of us are
artists. 14:21
Joerte (TCG): Maybe we should have opened it up to literature as
well to gain more entries 14:21
AsmodeusCainTCG: guys 14:21
AsmodeusCainTCG: quiet 14:21
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We have 3 in a clan of 28. 14:21
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Why, Cain? 14:22
Break(APR): I can't art to save my life. Most of the artists I
know in APR aren't really all that active. Or too spontaneous
for me to track down. 14:22
Titan (APR): We have about 4 or 5 in APR 14:22
Gingkage (BoH): We never really planned anything. We just said
'Hey, let's have an art contest!' and left it at that. 14:22
Shad(APR): Poems and stories could have widened it a lot. more
people 14:22
Gingkage (BoH): Not, in hindsight, our brightest idea. 14:22
Joerte (TCG): Opening it up to literature as well would have
included almost every active member in the TCG 14:22
AsmodeusCainTCG: cuz Ging is trying to take notes 14:22
Titan (APR): Agreed with Shad 14:22
Veranex (APR): Yeah, what Lee said 14:22
Titan (APR): Images mean reliance on software 14:22
AsmodeusCainTCG: so do I 14:22
Shad(APR): Ging will say when we need to shush. 14:22
Faerdin (BoH): We actually did get SOME things done. We
publicized it a bit in our chats and opened up registration.
14:22
Faerdin (BoH): It just never really took off. .-. 14:23
Titan (APR): Yeah 14:23
Faerdin (BoH): And Joerte, that is why I have a proposal for a
new contest. 14:23
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Fae, that's like calling an essay with only
the title written done. 14:23
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We didn't do anything significant. 14:23
Faerdin (BoH): True. Dx 14:23
Gingkage (BoH): So we had a learning experience. 14:24
Titan (APR): What we need is a way to keep activity and interest
high 14:24
Shad(APR): Coukd be like l&l? idk 14:24
Gingkage (BoH): Next time we come up with a contest idea, we'll
have all the details ironed out before we announce it. 14:24
Faerdin (BoH): But this new idea I have is one I discussed with
Reki. We were originally going to keep it within BoH, but
thought the Ultimate Unity as a whole could have fun with it.
14:24
Hopeful Guy (TCG): And it is? 14:25
Faerdin (BoH): A scriptwriting contest. 14:25
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Ooh, interesting. 14:25
Gingkage (BoH): Chis! You made it! 14:25
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AsmodeusCainTCG: ooooh 14:25
Hopeful Guy (TCG): A script for what, exactly? 14:25
AsmodeusCainTCG: a play 14:25
Mort: And just to ask. How many members know about it? Or is
that the point? 14:25
Titan (APR): Scriptwriting could be interesting 14:25
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Hey Chis. 14:25
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everyone 14:26
Faerdin (BoH): Everyone gets one line of dialogue, a prop, and a
sound effect, with different people being assigned different
genres like Social Comedy or Drama. 14:26
Hopeful Guy (TCG): What sort of play, I mean, Cain. 14:26
Dragonknight315 (APR): Script writing. That actually sounds very
fun. I typically do most of my storys in stage directions and
dialouge, so i could do this. 14:26
Faerdin (BoH): Everyone is just left to their own devices to
write with the limitations they have been given (We'd also have
to decide on a page limit) 14:26
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I enter. :D 14:26
Faerdin (BoH): And then we decide on the best. :) 14:27
Titan (APR): That's a really sweet idea 14:27
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Who would judge? A panel, just one person?
14:27
Faerdin (BoH): Scriptwriting is the most friendly form of
writing since it's mostly dialogue, so experienced writers or
people just looking for some fun can all enter without any
problems. 14:27
Gingkage (BoH): And people like myself with absolutely zero
intrest in script-writing could judge. 14:27
Titan (APR): But I think a judge from each clan should vote
14:27
Faerdin (BoH): We'd probably need to decide on a panel of judges
from all of the Ultimate Unity. Dx 14:28
Faerdin (BoH): Exactly, Titan. Read my mind, lol. 14:28
Shad(APR): Id do that if you wanted fae 14:28
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Titan (APR): Argh, brb 14:28
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XD 14:28
Faerdin (BoH): I also have a program that does scriptwriting
format REALLY easily, so formatting won't be a problem. xD 14:29
Gingkage (BoH): And to eliminate bias, everyone could PM their
scripts to someone who's neither a judge nor a participant,
without his or her name, and that person could post all the
scripts. 14:29
Titan (APR): back 14:29
Faerdin (BoH): ^ That, Ging. 14:29
Dragonknight315 (APR): Why do you need a program for
scriptwriting? I've always doen mine by pen and paper. 14:29
Faerdin (BoH): It wouldn't be needed at all, but it's a really
helpful tool. 14:29
Hopeful Guy (TCG): That runs into the problem that the judges
will need regular communication between each other, probably,
and at current communication levels it would be hard to do that,
Fae. 14:29
Faerdin (BoH): Just for anyone who wanted it. xD 14:29
Gingkage (BoH): I need a few seconds of silence, please. 14:29
Gingkage (BoH): Thank you. :) 14:30
Faerdin (BoH): The judges wouldn't really need to communicate
until the actual judging took place. 14:30
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Fae! shush 14:30
Hopeful Guy (TCG): :p 14:30
Dragonknight315 (APR): Ehh... They would have to discuss the way
to judge, really. 14:30
Faerdin (BoH): Oh. Like criteria? 14:30
Veranex (APR): Shouldn't that be discussed maybe before? 14:31
Dragonknight315 (APR): Like, is it best pick? One out of five
stars with the highest total? 14:31
Veranex (APR): So the judges know what they are judging on?
14:31
Dragonknight315 (APR): Exactly. 14:31
Faerdin (BoH): ^ That. Things like that could be discussed
before they start judging. Dx 14:31
Veranex (APR): Best story, best writing style 14:31
Mort: Hmm... we may all be interested but what about the regular
members? Last time, we didn't ask them properly of the idea.
14:31
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We'll need a chat or something for the
judging to happen in. PM is slightly limiting. 14:31
Gingkage (BoH): Actually, judges shouldn't even see the scripts
until they've all been entered. 14:31
Dragonknight315 (APR): ^ 14:32
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We'll stick up an announcement on our forums.
14:32
Shad(APR): agreed 14:32
Faerdin (BoH): *Nodnod* Across the Ultimate Unity, we all have
different private chats. 14:32
Hopeful Guy (TCG): +1 Ging 14:32
Faerdin (BoH): Finding one to use shouldn't be a problem. 14:32
Gingkage (BoH): And as far as communication goes, I have a
Xatroom that's only used once a week. 14:32
Hopeful Guy (TCG): That's perfect then. 14:32
Gingkage (BoH): And even that once a week is only a couple
hours. 14:33
Faerdin (BoH): And to ensure everyone knows about this, 14:33
Titan (APR): We can easily make a new xat if necessary anyway
14:33
Faerdin (BoH): Put up a thread in each of our Forums, change the
banners in our chatrooms, and poke people like there's no
tomorrow. xD 14:33
Hopeful Guy (TCG): And get it on TV. 14:34
Mort: Err... didn't we do that last time? 14:34
Joerte (TCG): Or just poke until the get annoyed 14:34
Gingkage (BoH): The BoH didn't. 14:34
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We didn't get it on TV... 14:34
Gingkage (BoH): We had a thread in our forums, but that was
pretty much it. 14:34
AsmodeusCainTCG: POKE 14:34
Hopeful Guy (TCG): MON 14:34
Faerdin (BoH): We need to be more determined. Dx 14:34
Hopeful Guy (TCG): But yes, we need to push for some entries.
14:35
Faerdin (BoH): And maybe the central, main thread for the
contest could be in The Celestial Guardians' Forum? 14:35
Gingkage (BoH): Lol, Hope. 14:35
Faerdin (BoH): Their Forum has a wonderful Alliance section. :)
14:35
Gingkage (BoH): That sounds like the best place to me. 14:35
Hopeful Guy (TCG): 5 from each clan is a good number to expect
IMO. 14:35
Mort: And we have a side-bar so no one misses it. 14:35
Break(APR): And just for me not to forget, I'm going to write
myself a note to visit everyone's chat at least once a week with
possible news. >​.>​ 14:35
Joerte (TCG): I know that at least one colour war will occur in
the main thread 14:36
AsmodeusCainTCG: probably 14:36
AsmodeusCainTCG: GO PURPLE 14:36
Faerdin (BoH): xD 14:36
Mort: Focus. 14:36
Joerte (TCG): We should set the scrollers on Xat as well 14:36
Hopeful Guy (TCG): A contest we should have soon: Funniest
reasons to justify why you like a colour. 14:36
Hopeful Guy (TCG): That would get a LOT of entries. 14:37
Faerdin (BoH): And would you guys want for this contest to
require being set on Lore? 14:37
Shad(APR): Can people shut up about colors? Like seriously.
14:37
Dragonknight315 (APR): ^ 14:37
Joerte (TCG): No, better not the limit people 14:37
Joerte (TCG): *to 14:37
Faerdin (BoH): *Nodnod* 14:37
Titan (APR): What Shad said 14:37
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I say yes. 14:37
Veranex (APR): ^ 14:37
Faerdin (BoH): There WILL be a required location, but it will be
general and vague so it could really be anywhere. :) 14:37
Veranex (APR): Dammit, Hope, was pointing to Titan 14:38
Shad(APR): Thank you. 14:38
Titan (APR): XD 14:38
Faerdin (BoH): Like "a broom closet" or "the back of a Wendy's
restroom." 14:38
Silver Sensei Lugia: Ok, so do we have a verdict on this topic?
14:38
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Because it's easier to judge if they all have
the same premise. 14:38
Faerdin (BoH): Not meaning the script has to take place ENTIRELY
there, but that the characters must go to a place like that at
some point. 14:38
Hopeful Guy (TCG): That's too easy, Fae. 14:39
Faerdin (BoH): Maybe, but keeping things TOO limited might start
making people produce scripts with similar premises. Dx 14:39
Hopeful Guy (TCG): The first line "I looked in my broom closet".
Then a play with no relevance to it. 14:39
Mort: ^ 14:39
Mort: Dangit Hopeful... 14:39
Veranex (APR): And also keep them from being as creative as they
can be 14:39
Hopeful Guy (TCG): It's always me. 14:39
Faerdin (BoH): That's why the broom closet was only an example.
xD 14:40
Mort: Best thing to have really is variety. Just need a good
amount of it to work. 14:40
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I think we should have a theme maybe, because
that's a good balance of the two. 14:40
AsmodeusCainTCG: what if 14:40
AsmodeusCainTCG: it's CYSERO's Broom Closet? 14:41
Faerdin (BoH): xD 14:41
Faerdin (BoH): Dear God no, lol. 14:41
Joerte (TCG): Thats too much variety 14:41
AsmodeusCainTCG: oh come on 14:41
Gingkage (BoH): That thing eats people. 14:41
Dragonknight315 (APR): We can discuss topic examples later.
14:41
Faerdin (BoH): Themes like what? 14:41
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Evil dust-bunnies. 14:41
AsmodeusCainTCG: think about all of the interesting stuff! 14:41
AsmodeusCainTCG: flying potatoes 14:41
Silver Sensei Lugia: Can we decide on this when we start the
contest, and move on? 14:41
Mort: Focus! 14:41
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Mort, you sound like a yoga guru. 14:41
Veranex (APR): I think what will be best is to make a topic and
discuss at a later time 14:41
Dragonknight315 (APR): GUYS. What lug said. 14:41
Shad(APR): Topics later. Next point? 14:41
AsmodeusCainTCG: Ommmmmmm 14:41
Faerdin (BoH): We can start sign-ups immediately, and set them
to end... 14:42
Veranex (APR): By make a topic, I mean on a forum or something
but yeah 14:42
Faerdin (BoH): Maybe two weeks from today? 14:42
AsmodeusCainTCG: how about,,, 14:42
AsmodeusCainTCG: October? 14:42
Faerdin (BoH): And during those two weeks, we can promote it
like a sir. 14:42
Titan (APR): Yeah 14:42
Joerte (TCG): Maybe we do it around Christmas to get more
entries 14:43
Hopeful Guy (TCG): October 1st might be better, I agree with
Cain. 14:43
Faerdin (BoH): October 1st to end or to start sign-ups? 14:43
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Joerte, we'd forget about it and have another
UUAC. 14:43
Hopeful Guy (TCG): End. 14:43
Mort: Joerte... another problem was that it took too long to
start yp. 14:43
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Start now. 14:43
Mort: up* 14:43
Dragonknight315 (APR): Look, no offense, but I dont even think
we should be discussing dates right now either. That should be
settled later, in my honest opinion. Because circumstances can
always arise, we need to get everthing planned out beforehand at
a certain time WHEN we have all the details. 14:43
Joerte (TCG): True 14:43
AsmodeusCainTCG: good point 14:43
Titan (APR): I agree with DK 14:43
Veranex (APR): What Dragon said 14:43
Faerdin (BoH): Then what should we be discussing? .-. 14:44
Hopeful Guy (TCG): DK, if we don't agree now we'll never agree
probably. 14:44
Dragonknight315 (APR): Because if we start thinking dates before
we even have the criteria, We are going to get EXACTLY what
happened last time. 14:44
Veranex (APR): The next topic? 14:44
Dragonknight315 (APR): ^ 14:44
Titan (APR): ^ 14:44
Veranex (APR): If we keep this up we are gonna be here for hours
14:44
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Wait for Ging, probably. 14:44
Faerdin (BoH): Look... I know we're all in a hurry here. 14:44
Faerdin (BoH): But if we don't get things solidified and
planned, it'll be another UUAC. .-. 14:44
Veranex (APR): Then Fae 14:45
Veranex (APR): We will makea topic on one of the forums for us
all to discus 14:45
Gingkage (BoH): Hopeful, I've gotten practice at highlighting
and copying as fast as possible. 14:45
Veranex (APR): I think that will be a better idea 14:45
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Put it in our section for alliances, Vera?
14:45
Veranex (APR): That could work 14:45
Mort: Just to say something, might be best that we assigned at
least one person to keep track about it so it won't be
forgotten. At all. 14:45
Dragonknight315 (APR): What Vera said. While we need to get the
ideas solified, we cant do that here and now. 14:45
Joerte (TCG): I agree with Vera, we could get more input 14:46
Veranex (APR): It may also help so that all our other members
see and can give their own advice for dates that work best for
all 14:46
Sainsbo(APR): I apologise that I haven't said much. I'm
listening, but I'm also trying to study for my entry exams.
14:46
Veranex (APR): And topics 14:46
Faerdin (BoH): Alright... 14:46
Veranex (APR): No worries, Sains, school is important 14:46
Faerdin (BoH): But in order to do it this way 14:46
Faerdin (BoH): We NEED dedication. 14:46
Faerdin (BoH): Otherwise, it'll end up like the last contest.
.-. 14:47
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Alternatively, we can meet again one month
hence. 14:47
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We'll definitely remember that way. 14:47
Faerdin (BoH): I think that's a good idea. To ensure we're on
track. 14:47
Faerdin (BoH): So a thread will be started in The Celestial
Guardians' alliance section? 14:47
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I'll put it up after the meeting. 14:48
Faerdin (BoH): Alright. Then that takes care of that. :) 14:48
Faerdin (BoH): So I think we can move on now. 14:48
Dragonknight315 (APR): Agreed. 14:48
Joerte (TCG): I have to go for about an hour guys CYA! 14:48
Shad(APR): Next topic? 14:48
Faerdin (BoH): II. Cysero's Defenders 14:48
Mort: Bye Joerte. 14:49
AsmodeusCainTCG: ummmm 14:49
AsmodeusCainTCG: ok, tbh I know absolutely NOTHING about them
14:49
Faerdin (BoH): We talked about Cysero's Defenders and their
offer several months back. 14:49
AsmodeusCainTCG: so...can someone clu eme in? 14:49
Titan (APR): I'm with Cain 14:49
Break(APR): I've met some of them. Nice people. 14:49
Hopeful Guy (TCG): How many of us were there that time? 14:49
Gingkage (BoH): They want to ally with the BoH. 14:49
Titan (APR): I haven't heard or seen much of what they do 14:49
Faerdin (BoH): Not a whole lot. Maybe half of the people here.
Dx 14:49
Veranex (APR): So...isn't that something to do more with you
guys, not us? 14:50
Titan (APR): Well, in my eyes the alliance isn't a package 14:50
AsmodeusCainTCG: cuz 14:50
AsmodeusCainTCG: if they ally with BoH 14:50
AsmodeusCainTCG: in a way 14:50
AsmodeusCainTCG: they ally with us 14:50
Dragonknight315 (APR): Yeah. Just because the BoH allied, doesnt
mean we ally. 14:50
Titan (APR): If they want ally with the BoH surely that's more
of a BoH thing 14:50
Veranex (APR): ^ 14:50
Titan (APR): If they want to later join the ultimate that's fine
14:50
Faerdin (BoH): That may be true, 14:50
Veranex (APR): Besides, don't they have to ally with all three
of us to join the ultimate and all? 14:50
Veranex (APR): Or something 14:51
Titan (APR): Yeah 14:51
Faerdin (BoH): Yes... 14:51
Faerdin (BoH): BUT. 14:51
Break(APR): I disagree. An alliance between an allied group and
another should be treated the same as a formed alliance. Think
Delian League, or the like. 14:51
Faerdin (BoH): ^ That is also a good point. 14:51
Hopeful Guy (TCG): V. Open Floor Cysero's Defenders Mel would
like to know the opinions of APR and TCG on Cysero's Defenders.
Hopeful Guy states that it is like "VELOX Part 2." Faerdin
clarifies that Cysero's Defenders is inactive on the AE Forums,
but is active in general. He then asks if Cysero's Defenders had
been in VELOX. Hopeful Guy and Mort state that they were.
Gingkage says that all she needs to say about them is that they
are allies with Alethia's clan, Alatreon. Chisagen states that
he had thought of Cysero's Defenders as a dead clan until
recently. Faerdin says that they became more active when DF
Enjin was created. Mort points out that Cysero's Defenders are
rarely seen now that DF Enjin is dead. Faerdin states that he
visited their chat and that they seemed like nice people. His
main problem with Cysero's Defenders is Alethia. Mort agrees
that Alethia is a problem. Veranex feels that the decision is up
to BoH, since they are the ones who have been approached for an
alliance. Gingkage says that BoH wanted input from APR and TCG.
Chis agrees. Chisagen asks how much of a voice Alethia has.
"Faerdin: Chis, Cysero's Defenders had a vote on whether or not
Dragon Heros would be one of their allies. Faerdin: They cited
D00MS' rudeness to Alethia as enough of a reason to say no, and
Alethia herself offered her opinion on D00MS. They ended the
vote with the majority being against an alliance." Hopeful Guy
states that he vehemently dislikes Alethia. Chisagen feels that,
if they are as kind and reasonable as Faerdin believes, then
there shouldn't be a problem in reasoning with Cysero's
Defenders. Mort agrees, saying they can offer their opinions on
Alethia and that they have plenty of evidence to back it up.
Faerdin is uncomfortable at the thought of making them give up
their alliance with Alatreon, but feels that their thoughts on
Alethia should be made clear so as not to harbor secrets. Mort
finds the thread in which Alethia displays pushy behavior toward
TCG:
HTML http://thecelestialguardians.createaforu
... Faerdin asks if
everyone agrees that Alethia should not keep BoH from forming an
alliance with Cysero's Defenders. Mort agrees, but Hopeful Guy
does not. Hopeful Guy feels that Alethia should not even be an
issue since she seems to be inactive and DF Enjin is no longer
relevant. Chis says that if Cysero's Defenders is a reasonable
clan, it should be worth talking to them. 14:52
Mort: Then that means all three clans would have to agree Break.
14:52
Titan (APR): But the BoH is linked to APR and TCG by ultimate
unity 14:52
Gingkage (BoH): What's a Delian League? 14:52
Shad(APR): Agree with Break tbh. 14:52
Veranex (APR): I don't see it that way, to be honest 14:52
AsmodeusCainTCG: ...too much text 14:52
Shad(APR): wha 14:52
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Sorry... posting notes on CD from last time.
14:52
AsmodeusCainTCG: can't read 14:52
Break(APR): Isn't that why we're here on this subject, Mort?
14:52
Gingkage (BoH): I'm gonna need a few second of silence if I want
to have a chance of getting all of that copied. 14:52
AsmodeusCainTCG: what's wrong with Alethia? 14:52
Hopeful Guy (TCG): That didn't work at all. 14:52
Titan (APR) joined the chat 14:52
Gingkage (BoH): I'm good. :) 14:53
Mort: She is VERY pushy Cain. 14:53
Faerdin (BoH): Alethia was... well, very pushy. 14:53
Break(APR): What's right with Alethia, putting it honestly?
14:53
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I disliked her as a person, she was bossy,
rude and pushy. 14:53
AsmodeusCainTCG: oh 14:53
Shad(APR): Okay, sorta do feel this is a wee bit motr boh than
uu 14:53
Faerdin (BoH): She infiltrated whatever clan forum she could
find and made posts asking them to join Enjin. 14:53
Sainsbo(APR): The only experiences I have ever had with the
Cysero Deenders was over 2 years ago, and it wasn't the best of
experiences. So, I don't really have much to say here. 14:54
Faerdin (BoH): Not to mention that her moderating style on Enjin
was questionable... 14:54
AsmodeusCainTCG: maybe she was just trying to be nice? 14:54
Shad(APR): And Alethia was a pushy cow 14:54
Mort: Hardly. 14:54
Faerdin (BoH): Condemning people publicly and such. .-. 14:54
Mort: Hardly Cain. 14:54
Break(APR): Alethia... yeah. That whole Risto business really...
just, no. I don't want to deal with her. 14:54
AsmodeusCainTCG: well 14:54
Mort: Should I get that thread again to show you all THAT
example again? 14:54
AsmodeusCainTCG: what did sh estand to gain from clans joining
Enjin? 14:54
Dragonknight315 (APR): Im just making this point guys. If the
current rules are as followed that to join UU, you have to be
allied with all three of us, then that means that we have to
vollunteeringly ally with them. You cant force us to ally with
them, and again, I feel that this is a BOH problem. 14:55
Shad(APR): Just from my own opinion i can see how effective her
methods would have been... 14:55
Faerdin (BoH): More publicity and activity on Enjin, as well as
using clans having joined as a badge of approval. 14:55
Faerdin (BoH): She did a similar thing with Forum ArchKnights
joining. 14:55
Veranex (APR): I agree with Dragon with some of that 14:55
Titan (APR): I agree with DK 14:55
Faerdin (BoH): No one is forcing anyone to do anything. 14:55
Mort: Even then, this shouldn't be about Alethia, this is about
CD. 14:56
Veranex (APR): They seem to want to be allies with BoH 14:56
Dragonknight315 (APR): Well no offense Fae, but with the idea of
the CD actually joining the UU, they have to meet the
requirements first, which they havent. 14:56
Faerdin (BoH): We did not want to bring up this topic in hopes
of making the Ultimate Unity immediately accept Cysero's
Defenders, nor do we even plan to contact them SOON. 14:56
Veranex (APR): Not TCGs or APR from what I know of 14:56
Shad(APR): Okay, what exactly does this have to do with us?
14:56
Dragonknight315 (APR): ^ 14:56
Faerdin (BoH): ENOUGH. 14:56
Titan (APR): ^ 14:57
Gingkage (BoH): Potentially nothing. Potentially something.
14:57
Faerdin (BoH): I will get to what it has to do with you if you
let me. 14:57
Faerdin (BoH): Now... 14:57
Faerdin (BoH): First and foremost, we are your allies. 14:57
Shad(APR): Well then by all means, carry on 14:57
AsmodeusCainTCG: wow 14:57
AsmodeusCainTCG: she IS pushy 14:57
Faerdin (BoH): You guys are more important to us than any other
potential alliance. 14:57
Faerdin (BoH): The Ultimate Unity is a family. 14:58
Faerdin (BoH): Naturally, this means we want your input before
we do anything so significant as allying with another clan.
14:58
Faerdin (BoH): Because if we allied with Cysero's Defenders and
there was a specific reason you did not like them or want them
around, it would cause some problems. 14:59
Faerdin (BoH): We don't want to make any voids between each
other when there are already some gaps in communication. 14:59
AsmodeusCainTCG: good point 14:59
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Perhaps we could say that we have an
unofficial alliance, in that we are on friendly terms but are
not allies? 14:59
AsmodeusCainTCG: I think that CD should make a case 14:59
AsmodeusCainTCG: and we should offer opinions to BoH 15:00
Gingkage (BoH): There's also a chance that they might feel that
allying with us also allies them with you even without y'all's
saying so. 15:00
AsmodeusCainTCG: but in the end, BoH has the final choice 15:00
Gingkage (BoH): Meaning they would possibly visit y'all's chats
and register for y'all's forums. 15:00
AsmodeusCainTCG: hmmmmmmmmm 15:00
AsmodeusCainTCG: we could outright tell them... 15:00
Titan (APR): I personally have no problem with BoH allying with
CD 15:01
AsmodeusCainTCG: say that we'd rather if they did not visit our
forums and whatnot 15:01
Hopeful Guy (TCG): But really, having a second alliance might
undermine this one. 15:01
Faerdin (BoH): The reason why we are looking back into this- and
why we were only wondering if the rest of the Ultimate Unity
would like to be involved- is because of activity. 15:01
Shad(APR): brb 15:01
Faerdin (BoH): Cysero's Defenders' prime objective in our
alliance was promoting activity among both their members and our
own, as James Lu explained to me. 15:02
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We already struggle here to even get anyone
active. TWO alliances would be hard to handle, and the BoH would
be pretty stretched between them. 15:02
Sainsbo(APR): I have no problem with the BoH allying with the
Cysero Defenders if it is a one on one alliance and doesn't
suddenly grant them membership in the UU. 15:02
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: It won't 15:02
Veranex (APR): I think you guys just need to do what is best
with your clan. And what Sains said 15:02
Faerdin (BoH): *Nodnod* It won't if you don't want it to. 15:02
Faerdin (BoH): And like I said before, there isn't even a
guarantee that we will anytime soon. We just want to clarify
where our options are. 15:03
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Just think about it yourself and we'll be OK
with your decision. 15:03
Faerdin (BoH): that we will pursue an alliance with them anytime
soon* 15:03
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: We are simply
asking you guys if you have any problems wih CD 15:03
Hopeful Guy (TCG): *yourselves 15:03
Faerdin (BoH): ^ And that. .-. 15:03
Sainsbo(APR): if it is a one on one thing, then I think it
shoudl be completely up to you guys what choice you want to
take. Of course, I and probably many others would be happy to
input, but at the end of the day, your own personal alliance is
your decision. 15:03
Sainsbo(APR): I have. 15:03
Hopeful Guy (TCG): No, unless it affects our alliance in a
negative way. 15:04
AsmodeusCainTCG: same 15:04
Dragonknight315 (APR): I don't know anything about CD myself, so
I dont have any imput really. 15:04
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: Because the
last thing we need is there to be drama between them and you
guys 15:04
Faerdin (BoH): Especially with being in the middle of
rebuilding. .-. 15:04
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: We aren't
saying they will join the UU because they ally with us because
they won't 15:04
Sainsbo(APR): The only experience I had with them was a couple
of years ago, when some of their members decided to have a go
when a member defected from CD to APR. It never amounted to
much, though, and I expect they have either matured or left by
now anyway. 15:05
Hopeful Guy (TCG): The only member of theirs who's active on AEF
AFAIK is James Lu. 15:05
Faerdin (BoH): Hmm... 15:05
Faerdin (BoH): *Nods* They do still use their chat and Forums,
though. 15:06
Dragonknight315 (APR): BRB guys 15:06
Gingkage (BoH): AFIAK? 15:06
Faerdin (BoH): As far as I know 15:06
Break(APR): As far as I know. >​.>​ 15:06
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: If nobody has
a problem with them then I think we can move onto the next
topic. 15:06
Faerdin (BoH): *Nods* Indeed. Are we agreed on that? 15:07
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Let's move on, I say. 15:07
Gingkage (BoH): ^ 15:07
AsmodeusCainTCG: CWN and TDK... 15:07
Veranex (APR): Sure 15:07
AsmodeusCainTCG: and bears, oh my 15:07
Faerdin (BoH): III. The Brotherhood 15:08
Dragonknight315 (APR): Back. 15:08
Titan (APR): I'll brb guys 15:08
Faerdin (BoH): This topic was supposed to be about The Dark
Knights and ChaosWeaver Nation planning a massive assault on the
upcoming 13th 13th War, 15:08
AsmodeusCainTCG: can I say something real quick? 15:08
Faerdin (BoH): But that war came early and they are nowhere in
sight. So it may or may not have been all talk and an abysmal
failure on their part. Dx 15:08
Hopeful Guy (TCG): It's probably going to get a few million
extra waves. 15:08
Gingkage (BoH): But apparently they forgot they were doing that.
15:08
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Seeing as it could be done before FtheXIII.
15:09
AsmodeusCainTCG: IMO 15:09
Hopeful Guy (TCG): So they may still come back. 15:09
Titan (APR): Honestly, at the end of the day what can The
Brotherhood do? 15:09
Mort: Can Cain say his piece please? He wanted to say something.
15:09
AsmodeusCainTCG: why do we even care about if they get more
waves than us? 15:09
Titan (APR): They can insult us but that will not change
anything 15:10
Sainsbo(APR): I'm not too sure what happened. What do you mean
by a massive assault? 15:10
Mort: They wanted to "dominate" the entire thing. 15:10
Titan (APR): They're trying to prove they're better, let them
play their games 15:10
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We just get more waves than them but don't
brag about it. 15:10
AsmodeusCainTCG goes into the corner as everyone is ignoring him
15:10
Hopeful Guy (TCG): They can't brag to us. 15:10
Silver Sensei Lugia: It means they are planning to dominate war
thread activity, to put it simply. 15:10
Dragonknight315 (APR): We arnt ignoring you, Cain. 15:10
AsmodeusCainTCG: yay 15:10
AsmodeusCainTCG: what I mean is 15:10
AsmodeusCainTCG: we should try our best, not because CWN and TCK
are calling us out 15:11
Dragonknight315 (APR): So you mean that hey are highjacking the
war threads? 15:11
AsmodeusCainTCG: but because WE want to do our best 15:11
Faerdin (BoH): Exactly. 15:11
AsmodeusCainTCG: TDK* 15:11
AsmodeusCainTCG: in all honesty 15:11
AsmodeusCainTCG: I don't really care about them 15:11
Sainsbo(APR): I'm sure the only thing that will come out of it
is that more waves will be done and more posts will be made due
to increased competition? 15:11
Shad(APR): back 15:11
Faerdin (BoH): They planned to, but as I said, they are nowhere
in sight. :P 15:11
Veranex (APR): Why do we even care though? 15:11
Dragonknight315 (APR): What can we do to exactly prevent that?
And even more so, I honestly dotn care about it. 15:11
AsmodeusCainTCG: if they want to brag about how they spent more
hours sitting in front of a computer 15:11
Veranex (APR): Welcome back, love 15:11
AsmodeusCainTCG: bully for them 15:11
Break(APR): I fail to see why we should care, anyway... 15:11
Hopeful Guy (TCG): To be honest, I think the UU are far more
respected by neutral people than the Brotherhood. 15:11
AsmodeusCainTCG: so, in conclusion 15:12
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We have honour, they don't. 15:12
Dragonknight315 (APR): As a former member OF Dark Knights, they
are mostly talk. And if they DO it, it doesnt make them any
better. They are more putting themselves in a bad light. 15:12
AsmodeusCainTCG: I don't think that the Brotherhood is that
important 15:12
Sainsbo(APR): Did you guys find this information out via their
forums or something? 15:12
Faerdin (BoH): *Nodnod* 15:12
Sainsbo(APR): If so, may I have a link sometime? 15:12
Faerdin (BoH): I made it a hobby of mine. :P 15:12
AsmodeusCainTCG: I think we can just ignore them 15:12
AsmodeusCainTCG: FaeFae, us is stalking TDK? 15:13
Gingkage (BoH): Really, TDK is more a BoH problem than an UU
problem. 15:13
Faerdin (BoH):
HTML http://thedarkknights2.forumotion.com/t3...
15:13
Faerdin (BoH): Mabeh. <-< >​->​ 15:13
Faerdin (BoH): No, it is a UU problem. 15:13
Faerdin (BoH): They hate ALL of us. They just hate BoH the most.
.__. 15:13
Gingkage (BoH): They're fond of trashing the Beacons, but I
don't recall seeing much of anything about APR or TCG. 15:14
Dragonknight315 (APR): Ehhhh..... Im not so sure about ALL of
them. Dart doesnt hate me or many APR members, actually. 15:14
Mort: Remember that clan-war against us TCG everyone? 15:14
Sainsbo(APR): They have said many things in the past, and
nothing has happened. I don't honestly see why this will be any
different. 15:14
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We got in a clan war. 15:14
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Ninja Mort. 15:14
Mort: That didn't happen... 15:14
Faerdin (BoH): Thus the "making BoH our servants, APR our toilet
plungers, and TCG our punching bags" shpheal. 15:14
AsmodeusCainTCG: these guys are WAY too into RP'ing 15:14
Dragonknight315 (APR): Is that just the members saying it, or
the leaders, Fae? 15:14
AsmodeusCainTCG: yeah that was creepy 15:14
AsmodeusCainTCG: I dun wanna be a punching bag 15:14
Hopeful Guy (TCG): And making themselves a bunch of ****s with
sad lives. 15:14
Faerdin (BoH): The guy was a member at the time, but I think
he's a leader now. 15:14
Sainsbo(APR): After reading through that thread, it doesn't seem
like anything personal. They are encouraging eachother to post
and fight more? 15:15
AsmodeusCainTCG: who? 15:15
Faerdin (BoH): Gengkiskan. 15:15
Mort: The worse of the worse TBH. 15:15
Dragonknight315 (APR): I do not recall the name. 15:15
Break(APR): I hate to say this, but this... is just sad. 15:15
Faerdin (BoH): And Sains, after having called every other clan a
joke in a different thread. 15:15
Sainsbo(APR): They've done that plenty of times 15:16
Sainsbo(APR): It just seems like RP to me. Nothing usually comes
out of it 15:16
Dragonknight315 (APR): They called us a joke? You know how to
handle a bully? Ignore him. Dont give him satisfaction. 15:16
Titan (APR): I agree with Sains 15:16
Sainsbo(APR): They said they were going to make APR clean their
toilets at one point, lol. 15:16
Faerdin (BoH): That's been our policy and we don't plan for it
to be any different. 15:16
Faerdin (BoH): What we WERE hoping out of mentioning this,
though, 15:16
Titan (APR): I say ignore them, if it gets out of hand we go to
an AE mod 15:16
AsmodeusCainTCG: why is somebody people coming? 15:16
Veranex (APR): I still sorta don't see why we care ._. I mean,
it isn't going to affect us at all 15:17
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Since when did they use toilets? I thought
they were cavemen. But aside from trashtalking, what else can
they do? 15:17
Sainsbo(APR): Nothing, Hopeful 15:17
Gingkage (BoH): And I need about 10 seconds of silence, please.
15:17
Sainsbo(APR): Which is why I don';t think much will come from
this latest round of "threats" 15:18
Faerdin (BoH): Anyway, what we were hoping out of this was just
a reminder. 15:18
Hopeful Guy (TCG): In memory of the Dark Knights, who are now
history, 10 seconds of silence. 15:18
Faerdin (BoH): The war is still raging strong, and regardless of
what The Dark Knights do or do not say, we need to be out there
and fighting. 15:18
Gingkage (BoH): Oh. Right. I'm caught up. *should have said
that* 15:19
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Bleh, let's move on to the most important
part. 15:19
Gingkage (BoH): I don't, personally, think that TDK is much of
an issue. They seem to be all talk for the most part. 15:19
Dragonknight315 (APR): Mhm. They ARe all talk. 15:20
Titan (APR): Agreed 15:20
Shad(APR): they just like rp a wee bit too much 15:20
Faerdin (BoH): *Nodnod* 15:21
Shad(APR): its not like they can actually do anything 15:21
Dragonknight315 (APR): Not going to lie. I had the impression
when i was a member that most of them WERE insane. XD 15:21
Dragonknight315 (APR): And not the good kind, either.
>​.>​ 15:21
Faerdin (BoH): To sum up this section, 15:21
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Can we PLEASE move on? 15:21
Faerdin (BoH): Try fighting in the war, gaiz. D: 15:21
Faerdin (BoH): Moving on... 15:21
Sainsbo(APR): *Grand total of 0 waves* .-. 15:22
Faerdin (BoH): IV. Forum Activity 15:22
Faerdin (BoH): Our activity WITHIN our clans is out of sorts.
15:22
Faerdin (BoH): Our activity BETWEEN our clans is nothing short
of terrible. .-. 15:22
Shad(APR): I have to go in 10 mins just so you know 15:22
Gingkage (BoH): Hey, I visit APR and TCG's clans at least once a
day. 15:23
Gingkage (BoH): *forums 15:23
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Ging, you and Fae are exceptions. 15:23
Faerdin (BoH): *Nodnod* There are those who visit whenever they
can, 15:23
Gingkage (BoH): I don't hardly post there, but I pay them a
visit. 15:23
Faerdin (BoH): But otherwise, we are kind of... Meh. .-. 15:23
Dragonknight315 (APR): Well Ging, you are just one person. Not
everyone for crossing. While I visit the chatzy here, I never go
to your fourms, admitidly. 15:23
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I'm not going to lie; I set a really bad
example to TCG. D: 15:23
Faerdin (BoH): This void of communication is so bad that APR was
stalled out by it yesterday. 15:24
Gingkage (BoH): I'm not great about visiting clan chats, but, no
offence TCG, your chat's always dead when I visit. 15:24
Mort: Can't blame you... 15:24
Faerdin (BoH): All of us need to be more involved, and we need
to find a way to streamline communication. 15:24
Mort: I would say putting announcements that encourage everyone
to visit each other... but I did that twice, anyone tried? No,
they did not. 15:25
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Ging, there's only a maximum of 5 on our
chat. Never more than that. 15:25
Dragonknight315 (APR): Well, one thing we might have to look at
is each clans OWN problems. Then we see what we can do together.
Because while we can work things out between us, we are going to
fall apart if we cant work our own issues. As for ideas? Not
exactly sure TBH. 15:26
AsmodeusCainTCG: yeah, TCG chat is almsot always dead 15:26
Gingkage (BoH): Well the few times I've poked my head into TCG's
chat, it was empty. 15:26
Faerdin (BoH): BoH chat has likewise been dead for some time.
.-. 15:26
Faerdin (BoH): There's usually a few people, but a lot of the
time it's almost deserted. 15:26
Shad(APR): Everytime i come here or tcg chat its dead sk i gave
up 15:26
Gingkage (BoH): I think I prefered it when TCG had a chat on
their forums. I think that was the busiest I've seen a TCG chat.
15:26
Break(APR): BoH has its good moments. Usually, if I'm not
NEEDING to focus solely on the APR chat, I pop in here, as well.
15:26
Faerdin (BoH): We had a clan meeting today and it left me
feeling optimistic that things will improve in that regard, but
it is still a problem. 15:27
Faerdin (BoH): Er... yesterday* 15:27
Shad(APR): And ummm...shouldnt Dae be booted? 15:27
Gingkage (BoH): She left. 15:27
Faerdin (BoH): She's not online in my guest list. .-. 15:27
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: She's gone ._.
15:27
Mort: Neither on mine. 15:27
Gingkage (BoH): :/ 15:27
Dragonknight315 (APR): Yeah, Shes offline for me. 15:27
Shad(APR): Huh ._. 15:27
Gingkage (BoH): Shad, I think you're bugged or something. 15:27
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Offline. 15:27
Dragonknight315 (APR): If its greyed out, shes offline, Shadows.
Think of it as red on Xat. 15:28
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Is her name grey for you? 15:28
Shad(APR): sorry x_x 15:28
Shad(APR): wth 15:28
Break(APR): Shad... erm... did you... yeah, I think he's bugged.
._. 15:28
Veranex (APR): ._. 15:29
Dragonknight315 (APR): Had, The drunken name curse has spread to
Chatzy. ._. 15:29
Gingkage (BoH): Weird. He's green on my sidebar, and black here.
@.@ 15:29
Shad(APR): okay i gotta go anyway xD 15:29
Gingkage (BoH): And green. 15:29
Dragonknight315 (APR): Alright. Cya Shadows! 15:29
Sainsbo(APR): Cya. 15:29
Gingkage (BoH): Chatzy is spazzing. It's never seen this much
activity before. :P 15:29
Veranex (APR): Bye, Lee! 15:29
Shad(APR): sorry bout that, ciao 15:29
Gingkage (BoH): Bye, Shad. Thanks for coming. 15:29
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Bye Shad. 15:29
Silver Sensei Lugia: Bye Shad 15:29
Mort: Bye Shad. 15:29
Faerdin (BoH): Now... 15:30
Faerdin (BoH): What can we do to support communication between
clans? 15:30
Titan (APR): Cya Shady 15:30
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Xat spazzes even when there's no-one online,
so chatzy's better. 15:30
Veranex (APR): But you don't have the hello smile (D) 15:30
Veranex (APR): ...Or the glare 15:30
Break(APR): True... stability is Xat's main downfall. 15:30
Hopeful Guy (TCG): For a start, a board like ours on every
forum. 15:30
Gingkage (BoH): All we can really do, Fae, is make sure our
leaders make a conscious effort to be more active with our
allies and encourage that activity. 15:31
Dragonknight315 (APR): Honestly? Im Not sure at all, Fae. It
seems almost impossible unless we make a UU chat, and that
probably STILL wont help much. 15:31
Hopeful Guy (TCG): That is successful for us. 15:31
Sainsbo(APR): I guess we can just encourage people to visit the
other clan's chats and forums more. I don't know that this is
something we can physically force 15:31
Veranex (APR): I agree with Gin 15:31
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Then a UU chat, as DK said. 15:31
Dragonknight315 (APR): Can I get a link to the fourms, please?
15:31
Veranex (APR): And Sains 15:31
Veranex (APR): Eeeh, I dunno about a UU chat 15:31
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Which one, DK? 15:31
Dragonknight315 (APR): The TCG one. 15:31
Veranex (APR): I don't want our members spending more time there
than in our own 15:31
Gingkage (BoH):
HTML http://boh.createaforum.com/index.php
15:31
Veranex (APR): Which I am afraid will happen with some members
15:31
Hopeful Guy (TCG):
HTML http://thecelestialguardians.createaforu
...
15:32
Gingkage (BoH): Probably BoH and/or TCG. 15:32
Dragonknight315 (APR): I want to see this board. And I will
admit, I dont like the idea of an UU chat. 15:32
Gingkage (BoH): Better safe than sorry. 15:32
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Alliance communication. 15:32
Gingkage (BoH): BoH has a rule for our allies that if you're in
our chat, you also have to be in your clan's chat. 15:32
Ƈħįşāģėŋ joined the chat
15:32
Dragonknight315 (APR): Same, Ging. 15:32
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Scroll a bit down. 15:32
Gingkage (BoH): It's how we try to keep people active in their
own clans. Maybe APR and TCG could do something similar? 15:32
Sainsbo(APR): Alliance communication is key (Esppecially after
yesterday) But I'm also not fond of a UU chat. We already have 3
chatrooms between us. 15:32
Faerdin (BoH): Also... 15:33
Gingkage (BoH): We could simply apply that rule to an Ultimate
Unity chat as well. 15:33
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: Yeah... 15:33
Veranex (APR): Yeah, but that is just a bunch of chats then
15:33
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: I'm against an
aliance chat 15:33
Faerdin (BoH): What I think could help is if we designated
specific people who are in charge of managing communications for
each clan should communications fail. 15:33
AsmodeusCainTCG: same 15:33
Veranex (APR): And just because you are in your own chat,
doesn't mean they will be paying attention to the chat 15:33
Gingkage (BoH): Okay, there's too much talking. 15:33
Break(APR): An alliance chat is just something else to keep
track of... 15:33
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: It was already
tried with VELOX and as shown it failed horribly 15:33
Faerdin (BoH): Basically one person who we KNOW will always be
in contact with other clans. 15:33
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Faerdin, that person may go inactive. What
then? 15:34
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Even the most active people take holidays.
15:34
Faerdin (BoH): Then we could assemble a group dedicated to that.
15:34
Faerdin (BoH): To lessen the chances of one person being absent
and completely ruining communication. Dx 15:34
Mort: Was about to say that... 15:34
Break(APR): I'm always in APR chat, and usually here, too. but
TCG is kinda... I dunno. 15:34
Sainsbo(APR): We tried the idea of a council ourselves 15:34
Sainsbo(APR): died. 15:35
Sainsbo(APR): It died* 15:35
Faerdin (BoH): Maybe three to five designated representatives
from each clan? 15:35
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Much better IMO. 15:35
Faerdin (BoH): Three would probably be better. 15:35
Mort: I would say two at least. 15:35
Dragonknight315 (APR): Actually, what about people proportionate
to the number of active people in a clan? 15:35
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Break, no-one ever is in TCG chat, so there's
not much of a problem there. We need to sort out our own clan
activity. 15:36
Dragonknight315 (APR): Sorta like the house of representivitves
in the American Congress. 15:36
Faerdin (BoH): Hmm... That could work. 15:36
Sainsbo(APR): I don't really see why some clans would need more
than others 15:36
Gingkage (BoH): So two from BoH because God knows we're dead as
a doornail atm. 15:36
Veranex (APR): Or we could just at first keep trying to visit
all the chats when we can 15:36
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We have about 10, I think. 15:36
Hopeful Guy (TCG): So a fifth? 15:36
Dragonknight315 (APR): True, Sains. I was just adding the idea,
since it crossed my mind. 15:36
Sainsbo(APR): Ah 15:37
Faerdin (BoH): Hmm... 15:37
Gingkage (BoH): I think the main problem is most people (I know
I do) have difficulty focusing on more than one chat at once.
15:37
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Ging, if you call BoH a doornail D00MS will
come and hammer you. 15:37
Gingkage (BoH): I'd like to see him try. 15:38
Faerdin (BoH): And maybe these designated representatives could
promote activity between clans, too. 15:38
Gingkage (BoH): I'm friends with a wolf. He goes for the throat
of anyone who tries to mess with me. 15:38
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I have difficulty focusing on a single chat,
let alone three. 15:38
Faerdin (BoH): Keeping people aware of what's going on and
trying to promote joining the chats of other clans and the like.
Dx 15:38
Dragonknight315 (APR): Im actually AFK in the APR chat, because
I need to focus on this one. 15:38
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I am always getiing distracted. Mort can
attest to that. 15:38
Gingkage (BoH): Well, this is an exception, not a rule DK. 15:39
Hopeful Guy (TCG): So can Cain. 15:39
Gingkage (BoH): We're not always in a meeting when we meet up.
15:39
Gingkage (BoH): Ideally, at least. 15:39
Mort: I can... although. I can focus on every chat. OCD on
switching tabs ALL the time. 15:39
Sainsbo(APR): When there are 8 or so people all xchatting at
once, it is not possible to use another chat if you don't wish
to miss half of the conversation. 15:39
Veranex (APR): Could just try keeping in touch from the forums
then 15:39
Dragonknight315 (APR): Not saying a rule. Just pointing out that
even now, when nothing is really happening in APR, Im AFK in it.
15:39
Veranex (APR): Instead of chats 15:39
Silver Sensei Lugia: Sorry, I have to leave, a PM with any notes
from this meeting would be greatly appreciated. 15:39
Gingkage (BoH): Sure thing. 15:40
Sainsbo(APR): Cya Lug 15:40
Gingkage (BoH): Assuming you lot let me take the notes. *mock
glare* 15:40
Dragonknight315 (APR): Yeah. I think the fourms would be a much
better alternative. 15:40
Sainsbo(APR): Me too. 15:40
Gingkage (BoH): Yea. Forums are easier to juggle multiple ones
of. 15:40
Gingkage (BoH): Case in point, I've got 7 forum tabs open
counting the BoH one. I only really frequently check one of them
because the other six are pretty quiet. 15:41
Faerdin (BoH): So promote activity on each other's Forums, and
choose representatives whose sole duty is managing alliance
communication? 15:41
Sainsbo(APR): I don't understand the need for representatives. I
agree that activity needs to be promoted, but if someone has
something to say, they will get the message across regardless of
representatives 15:42
Veranex (APR): ^ 15:42
Titan (APR): I agree with Sains 15:42
Titan (APR): Representatives overomplicates it 15:43
Dragonknight315 (APR): Yeah.... Really, if we need to say
something, we just send whoever we can to say. 15:43
Sainsbo(APR): Representatives just adds another step that the
info has to travel through 15:43
Titan (APR): I think it would be better to promote regular
members hanging out in other clans chats and forums 15:43
Hopeful Guy (TCG): True. If you want to say something, you can
bloody well come and say it. 15:43
Hopeful Guy (TCG): And not rely on someone else. 15:43
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: The way I see
it representatives are mainly there in case for whatever reason
communications breaks down or simply stops 15:44
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: That's what
I'm getting from the discussion 15:44
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Why would that happen? 15:44
Sainsbo(APR): But if communication stops, isn't that because no
one has anything they need/wish to say? 15:44
Gingkage (BoH): Because no one's active at the moment. 15:44
Veranex (APR): ^ 15:44
Dragonknight315 (APR): ^ 15:44
Veranex (APR): Dang it, Gin 15:44
Faerdin (BoH): *Nods* Representatives are a safety net. 15:44
Hopeful Guy (TCG): If we set along the right line, it shouldn't
ever stop. 15:45
Veranex (APR): That was for Sains 15:45
Gingkage (BoH): Makes it easy for communication to stop, even
when something needs said. 15:45
Dragonknight315 (APR): If no one is active, then that is the
only way for No communcation to be possible. 15:45
Faerdin (BoH): Also, I don't want for our only solution to this
problem to be "promote activity." 15:45
Faerdin (BoH): That just doesn't work. .__. 15:45
Mort: Indeed, it doesn't. Need to have some sort of plan
everyone. 15:46
Dragonknight315 (APR): Well again, I almost find this whole idea
OF getting actitivy up to be impossible. I litterally am lost
with what to do. 15:46
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Contests like scriptwriting is a start. But
we need more integration. 15:46
Gingkage (BoH): Fae, we can't drag people to other chats/forums.
15:46
Sainsbo(APR): I don't see the problem with the way it is now. If
someone wants to find someone, they know where to go. To avoid
situations like yesterday where there is a lack of
communication, a simple solution is more notice and/or planning
in advance. 15:46
Hopeful Guy (TCG): ATM it's kind of like "You have your forums,
we have ours" 15:46
Dragonknight315 (APR): Agreed, Sains. 15:47
Veranex (APR): ^That 15:47
Veranex (APR): And also just sending another message or
something if you haven't heard back in a while since sometimes
people get busy 15:47
Veranex (APR): And i heard yelling, be right back 15:47
Dragonknight315 (APR): Alright, Vera. 15:48
Gingkage (BoH): The best we can reasonably do is encourage
people to, to use a cliché, not be strangers and come up with
inter-clan activities to keep people talking with each other.
15:48
Break(APR): I see a problem with it, solely because this isn't
unity. This is three separate groups that are stitched together
haphazardly by a title and maybe two meetings a year. So I see
SOME problem with our system, yes, but I don't see a solution.
15:48
Faerdin (BoH): ... 15:48
Faerdin (BoH): Had. You hit my feelings right on the head. .-.
15:48
Dragonknight315 (APR): Agreed, Had. I honestly am getting this
feeling. it feels rushed entirely. 15:48
AsmodeusCainTCG: sorry guys 15:49
AsmodeusCainTCG: I gotta roll out 15:49
Faerdin (BoH): See you, Cain. Thanks for coming. 15:49
Gingkage (BoH): Bye, Cain. 15:49
AsmodeusCainTCG: bye 15:49
Faerdin (BoH) snugs 15:49
Mort: Bye Cain. 15:50
Veranex (APR): Back 15:50
Faerdin (BoH): Welcome back. 15:50
Gingkage (BoH): More alliance meetings could help some. 15:50
Dragonknight315 (APR): Welcome back, Vera. 15:50
Sainsbo(APR): Cya Cain, wb Ver. 15:50
Veranex (APR): Thanks 15:50
Faerdin (BoH): That just feels like adding more stitches to a
blanket that's falling apart, honestly. 15:50
Gingkage (BoH): If only because that way everyone's consistently
on the same page. 15:50
Faerdin (BoH): I feel like the hypothetical Ultimate Unity Forum
COULD help, actually. 15:51
Faerdin (BoH): We could just eliminate all of the Alliance
sections in our own Forums and make an Ultimate Unity Forum
everyone can use. 15:51
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Maybe we should mention it on our clan pages
on AEF. 15:51
Gingkage (BoH): A multi-clan forum was tried, Fae. 15:51
Veranex (APR): Actually 15:51
Gingkage (BoH): I think you were the only one to have more than
one post on it. 15:51
Veranex (APR): In theory 15:52
Sainsbo(APR): We could. Though, I just don't see how it would be
any more successful than the VELOX forum 15:52
Veranex (APR): That would be more helpful than having to visit
so many forums 15:52
Veranex (APR): But yeah, with VELOX in mind, I'm not sure how
great it will be 15:52
Faerdin (BoH): Because VELOX never went any further than
literally just being a Forum with three clan or four clan
sections in it. : 15:52
Faerdin (BoH): :P* 15:52
Sainsbo(APR): I mean, if you want a discussion with someone, you
will generally find them in chat. It's much more convenient.
15:52
Sainsbo(APR): True :P 15:52
Dragonknight315 (APR): Mhm. My only problem is who runs what
with the UU fourm. 15:52
Dragonknight315 (APR): Then again, if we ever get there, that
can be sorted out diplomatically. 15:53
Faerdin (BoH): If we actually put effort into it- making
Roleplaying Forums, General Discussion Forums, Debate Forums,
just things Ultimate Unity members can use to talk with each
other and be active- 15:53
Sainsbo(APR): Hmm 15:53
Faerdin (BoH): We might be able to generate activity on it.
Because like Vera said, it could simplify communication and give
a greater feeling of unity. 15:53
Gingkage (BoH): The way I see it, it's not so much that we
aren't active as it is that we aren't communicating. 15:54
Mort: Just to say something ... and not pointing fingers at no
one... but... how do I say this nicely... one of the problems I
see is that either members are too lazy to even check each other
out or just feel like I don't need to visit each other even
though they do. 15:54
Dragonknight315 (APR): Fae, Can I have a moment? That actually
reminds me of something. 15:54
Faerdin (BoH): There wouldn't be separate sections for each clan
on it. Just a "Business Forum" or something like that. 15:54
Faerdin (BoH): *Nodnod* 15:54
Mort: they* 15:54
Faerdin (BoH): A Forum is much easier for everyone to take part
in than a chat, I think. 15:54
Dragonknight315 (APR): Remember the plan of Me, Draketh, and You
having a RP fight? I remember we finally got around to it at
some point, but it was origionally planned on the BoH fourms to
help produce activity. 15:55
Dragonknight315 (APR): The idea of a UU fourms could solve that.
Rp Issues, topics, polls, all the general fun and social stuff
that we could do together. 15:55
Faerdin (BoH): Mhm. We eventually split the Roleplay Forum since
RP fights are kind of clumsy in a Forum though, lol. 15:55
Faerdin (BoH): Exactly! :D 15:55
Dragonknight315 (APR): Yeah. 15:55
Faerdin (BoH): Not to mention a Games Forum. 15:55
Dragonknight315 (APR): Agreed. 15:56
Break(APR): It does seem to be the best option. 15:56
Faerdin (BoH): And even if the social parts don't work out,
15:56
Dragonknight315 (APR): And as I said. When we get to actually
making it and deciding it's format, we can all settle it there.
15:57
#Post#: 9--------------------------------------------------
Re: Meeting of September 8th, 2013
DIR By: Faerdin
Date: October 5, 2013, 3:07 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Faerdin (BoH): We'd still have a designated and official place
to resolve problems, as well as a place to easily PM everyone
across the Ultimate Unity. Dx 15:57
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Are we agreed on a UU forum, then? Because
it's been nearly two hours. ._. 15:57
Dragonknight315 (APR): Yeah, I think so. 15:57
Veranex (APR): Uh, I dunno 15:58
Gingkage (BoH): I think so, yea. 15:58
Veranex (APR): I know we are talking about how it would be in
practice but I dunno if we have really said "Yes, let's try
this" 15:58
Break(APR): My vote on this is a "yes". 15:58
Dragonknight315 (APR): ... True. We do kinda need an offical
vote with the actual members of each clan. 15:58
Dragonknight315 (APR): But personally? My vote is yes. 15:58
Faerdin (BoH): *Nods* 15:58
Faerdin (BoH): How about this. 15:58
Mort: Just one thing, how are we going to encourage everyone to
try it out? 15:58
Dragonknight315 (APR): I'd assume that if people in each clan
say yes to the idea, they would try it out. 15:59
Veranex (APR): Why don't we just ask our members what they think
of the idea and see how it goes? 15:59
Faerdin (BoH): We make a one-week poll on each of our Forums
today, asking whether or not we should have the UU Forum. 15:59
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Big announcements, polls, stuffz, TV news
bulletins. 15:59
Ƈħįşāģėŋ joined the chat
15:59
Dragonknight315 (APR): I wouldnt quite say today, Fae, but
sometime soon. A poll today could be a comunication issue. 15:59
Veranex (APR): ^ 16:00
Veranex (APR): And no offence guys, I am starting to get really
tired, how much more do we need to discuss? 16:00
Faerdin (BoH): How? .-. 16:00
Sainsbo(APR): If the poll is open for a week, though, people
should have seen it by then, shouldn't they? 16:00
Veranex (APR): Like Hope said, it has been two hours 16:00
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Open Floor, and that's all Vera. 16:00
Dragonknight315 (APR): Fae, some people in my group I check
visit once every two weeks or so. 16:01
Dragonknight315 (APR): One week TODAY might not be enough time
for everyone to vote. We need to tell people to vote. 16:01
Gingkage (BoH): Not with the BoH forum activity. 16:01
Sainsbo(APR): We can put a Marquee in chat, if you want. 16:01
Veranex (APR): Sains 16:01
Faerdin (BoH): Then when should we start the poll? 16:01
Dragonknight315 (APR): But yeah. I say we put a Marquee in our
chat for a few days, then we have a poll. 16:02
Veranex (APR): Some of members are still pretty inactive and
only come every now and then 16:02
Veranex (APR): If we do do it today 16:02
Veranex (APR): I say it needs to be open for longer 16:02
Veranex (APR): More than a week 16:02
Faerdin (BoH): Two weeks? 16:02
Mort: Like a month? 16:02
Dragonknight315 (APR): Mhm. I say around two weeks. 16:02
Gingkage (BoH): Maybe open it one week from today? 16:02
Sainsbo(APR): The inactive members don't deserve an imput, IMO.
But sure, longer isn't a bad idea. 16:02
Veranex (APR): I was thinking maybe 3 16:02
Dragonknight315 (APR): True, Sains. 16:02
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: A month seems
rather long ._. 16:02
Gingkage (BoH): That gives people time to see that a poll is
going to be up. 16:02
Faerdin (BoH): Indeed. .-. 16:02
Sainsbo(APR): Personally, I think 1 or 2 weeks is fine. 16:03
Dragonknight315 (APR): Same. My vote is near two. 16:03
Gingkage (BoH): Two weeks seems plenty long enough. 16:03
Faerdin (BoH): Two weeks sounds like we'd be meeting in the
middle somewhere. 16:03
Hopeful Guy (TCG): 2 weeks is enough. We can use the Announce
topic so that peole get emails about it. 16:03
Veranex (APR): Though 16:03
Deviance (APR): Agreed, thats enough time 16:03
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: two weeks
sounds good for me 16:03
Hopeful Guy (TCG): *people 16:03
Gingkage (BoH): But this meeting is taking rather a long time.
16:03
Veranex (APR): Or we could set one up today, I'm just throwing
random things out there 16:04
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: This is the
first meeting we've had in like half a year though XD you kind
of expect it to take a while 16:04
Faerdin (BoH): Exactly. 16:04
Veranex (APR): Actually, I don't think it has been that long
16:04
Gingkage (BoH): Yea. Maybe we should meet a little more often.
16:04
Veranex (APR): A few months, yes 16:04
Faerdin (BoH): And the BoH clan meeting yesterday took four
hours. You guys are meeting lightweights. xD 16:04
Hopeful Guy (TCG): March, Vera. 16:05
Mort: Last one was in March. 16:05
Hopeful Guy (TCG): 6 months. 16:05
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: It's not
exactly like we meet up once a month and can have a one hour
meeting 16:05
Veranex (APR): Oh 16:05
Veranex (APR): Thought it was after march xD 16:05
Mort: So, anything else? 16:05
Veranex (APR): So okay, set up a poll today and keep it open for
two weeks, yeah? 16:05
Faerdin (BoH): Hmm... 16:05
Gingkage (BoH): Fae, yesterday's meeting has nothing on the one
where we took three hours to debate one topic. 16:05
Faerdin (BoH): Yes. 16:06
Faerdin (BoH): xD 16:06
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: Hah 16:06
Gingkage (BoH): That sounds good to me, Vera. 16:06
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Our council meeting took a week to finish,
Fae. 16:06
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: I can agree
with that, Vera/ 16:06
Faerdin (BoH): ... 16:06
Faerdin (BoH): We have a winner! ;D 16:06
Sainsbo(APR): And in three weeks time what will happen? 16:06
Sainsbo(APR): two* 16:06
Gingkage (BoH): How did a meeting take a week to finish? @.@
16:06
Faerdin (BoH): If the majority of our clans give the okay, 16:06
Veranex (APR): We let everyone know what the verdict was? 16:06
Mort: No one showing up. 16:06
Dragonknight315 (APR): Well, We go by what the vote says. If it
is yes, we have a meeting on the details ABOUT the fourms. 16:06
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: We will come
together to discuss the outcome was 16:07
Sainsbo(APR): How, another meeting, or what? 16:07
Faerdin (BoH): We return to The Celestial Guardians' Forums with
our verdicts. 16:07
Hopeful Guy (TCG): People kept vanishing and we had to keep
continuing the next day. 16:07
Faerdin (BoH): Then we can decide on who will begin construction
of the website, 16:07
Faerdin (BoH): AND what the Forums/Sub-Forums on the site will
be. 16:07
Gingkage (BoH): Wow. That's actually pretty impressive. 16:07
Faerdin (BoH): Sound good? 16:07
Veranex (APR): Though 16:07
Sainsbo(APR): Sounds fine to me 16:07
Veranex (APR): The one thing I want if it is all yes with the UU
forum 16:07
Hopeful Guy (TCG): OK. Can we do the Open Floor then? 16:07
Veranex (APR): I still think those who have power in our each
forums, still have power there 16:08
Sainsbo(APR): A quick question, if I may? 16:08
Veranex (APR): So maybe there can be a section just for leaders
with it, and the rest be for normal members? 16:08
Faerdin (BoH): So all leaders will still have moderating power,
yes? 16:08
Faerdin (BoH): And of course, Sains. 16:08
Veranex (APR): Yeah 16:08
Dragonknight315 (APR): I think thats fair, Vera. 16:08
Mort: Sains, go on/ 16:09
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Captains, though. Not councillors or
Lieutenants. 16:09
Faerdin (BoH): We could make a Leaders' Alcove only leaders can
see. 16:09
Sainsbo(APR): What if two clans vote yes, and one votes no, or
vice-versa? Does it have to be unanamous, or just a majority?
16:09
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Majority IMO. 16:09
Faerdin (BoH): *Nodnod* A majority, I think... But 16:09
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: Majority rules
would seem the most fair 16:09
Sainsbo(APR): If it's just majority, you may end up with one
clan less enthusiastic about it, that's the only problem I see
with it. 16:09
Faerdin (BoH): If this is anything LESS than unanimous, we will
have to be more careful. 16:09
Faerdin (BoH): Exactly, Sains. .-. 16:09
Dragonknight315 (APR): Yeah. If someone says no, there will be
some issues. 16:09
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: I guess we
would have to find out why they voted no and deal with it on a
case by case kinda thing 16:10
Gingkage (BoH): Kick out dissenters! D:< 16:10
Veranex (APR): How about when we do the poll we just ask 16:10
Gingkage (BoH): :P 16:10
Veranex (APR): "If you are voting no, please say why you think
it won't work or why you don't want it, thanks" 16:11
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: That's what I
meant, Vera 16:11
Sainsbo(APR): It would be good to get peoples reasons for or
against the idea 16:11
Veranex (APR): Ah! 16:11
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: Except I
didn't put it very well :p 16:11
Veranex (APR): Yeah, it would 16:11
Gingkage (BoH): It's been my experience that most people don't
like to explain why they voted the way the did on polls. 16:11
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Well, they'll have to if they like or not.
16:12
Sainsbo(APR): Apart from polls are anonymous, so there's no way
we can make people 16:12
Veranex (APR): Is that it then? 16:13
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: I believe so
16:13
Faerdin (BoH): V. Open Floor 16:13
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Anyone? 16:14
Faerdin (BoH): Any issues for open floor? .-. 16:14
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: Anyone have
anything they want to bring up? 16:14
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: XD Sep 8
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I have something, actually. 16:14
Veranex (APR): I'm good 16:14
Dragonknight315 (APR): Only thing I have left to say. During
this meeting, I am kinda sorry if I acted like an ass during ANY
of it. 16:14
Dragonknight315 (APR): Im.. a little bad a putting my point
across without it being blunt. My apologies. 16:14
Faerdin (BoH) then merged with Chis and Hopeful Guy to become
HOPEFAECHIS! 16:14
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: The floor is
yours, Hopeful. 16:15
Dragonknight315 (APR): ................. Hopefaechis? ._. 16:15
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Why aren't we mentioning our alliance on the
AEF clan pages? 16:15
Faerdin (BoH): I have no idea, actually. xD 16:15
Hopeful Guy (TCG): If we did, our new members would also know
about the alliance. 16:15
Dragonknight315 (APR): Probably due to the hapazardness of the
UU. We can solve that, though. 16:15
Faerdin (BoH): We should use the symbol Talion made to make a
sort of badge we can put on our clan pages. 16:15
Veranex (APR): I thought we did that ._. 16:15
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Promoting activity from them. 16:15
Faerdin (BoH): That or we could pull what The Brotherhood did
and make a page for the Ultimate Unity. 16:16
Titan (APR): I thought we had an alliances section on the APR
page 16:16
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I think that was against the rules at some
point. I'll check. 16:16
Sainsbo(APR): ...Is that just an extra page, or instead of clan
pages? Sep 8
Sainsbo(APR): And we do 16:16
Faerdin (BoH): An extra page. 16:16
Hopeful Guy (TCG): That's not enough, Titan. A proper
description was what I meant. 16:17
Faerdin (BoH): We wouldn't throw away our clan pages or
anything, lol. 16:17
Sainsbo(APR): That's what i was wondering 16:17
Mort: I think the problem is that everyone usually skips over a
mentioning of UU and if we made a page about it. It would get
lost and forgotten soon after. 16:17
Sainsbo(APR): The VELOX page got deleted by an AK, so surely a
UU page would too 16:18
Faerdin (BoH): Maybe... 16:18
Hopeful Guy (TCG): The rules have changed. 16:18
Hopeful Guy (TCG): They are allowed, as far as it says. 16:18
Faerdin (BoH): Makes you wonder why The Brotherhood is allowed,
though. 16:18
Mort: Probably because everyone forgotten about it... 16:19
Faerdin (BoH): If we made a page for The Ultimate Unity, it
wouldn't be forgotten. 16:19
Faerdin (BoH): The difference is that VELOX was an organization.
16:19
Faerdin (BoH): The Ultimate Unity is a family. :) 16:19
Titan (APR): But it would be viewed no differently 16:20
Hopeful Guy (TCG): We can always check with a mod, that's not
hard. 16:20
Mort: Let me ask you all this, who here goes to their
forums/chat through the Recruitment page all the time? 16:21
Faerdin (BoH): Not by us. And as long as we don't forget it,
that's all that matters. 16:21
Gingkage (BoH):
HTML http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=2...<br
/>16:21
Gingkage (BoH): There's a section on Clan Councils. 16:21
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Clan Councils do NOT get their own
recruitment thread. 16:21
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Great... 16:22
Gingkage (BoH): So it looks like such a page might be allowed.
But it's best to check. 16:22
Faerdin (BoH): Nope. 16:22
Faerdin (BoH): Hopeful Guy saw it. Dx 16:22
Faerdin (BoH): They don't get their own recruitment threads, so
that's out the window. 16:22
Faerdin (BoH): Anyways, the most important parts to take away
from this meeting are: 16:22
Faerdin (BoH): 1) Start polls for the UU Forum. 16:22
Faerdin (BoH): 2) Start discussion on the scriptwriting contest
in The Celestial Guardians' Alliance Forum. 16:23
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Anyone else for the floor, before we sum up,
actually? 16:23
Faerdin (BoH): 3) Be more active be more active be more active
be more active. Dx 16:23
Gingkage (BoH): I don't have anything. 16:23
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Hyperactive. 16:24
Veranex (APR): *puts the spotlight on Sains* I know he has
something 16:24
Dragonknight315 (APR): I dont either. 16:24
Sainsbo(APR): I just wanted to ask something 16:24
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Vera, you psychic. 16:24
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Go ahead, Sains. 16:24
Sainsbo(APR): So that we don't end up in any situations like
yesterday, can we make sure all the leaders know what's
happening in regards to future meetings and such before telling
others? It would be good if we could stay on the same page.
Hopefully some of these ideas to improve communication will
solve that anyway though 16:25
Titan (APR): May I ask what happened yesterday? 16:26
Sainsbo(APR): Just some confusion so we were unsure who was
coming and who wasn't. Nothing major 16:26
Titan (APR): Ok 16:26
Titan (APR): Ok 16:26
Titan (APR): double glitch >​.>​ 16:26
Faerdin (BoH): Indeed... 16:26
Faerdin (BoH): And that's one small downside about Chatzy.
Occasional double-posts. Dx 16:27
Faerdin (BoH): But for the record, 16:27
Faerdin (BoH): I sent you a link to the agenda before it was
completed, Sains. And if I remember correctly, I not only asked
whether or not all leaders from APR were attending, but we
discussed it in the thread with the agenda. 16:27
Faerdin (BoH): I sent the agenda to everyone in APR because I
hadn't heard anything back and wanted to make sure our bases
were covered. 16:28
Veranex (APR): But like I said to you, Fae, you could've sent a
PM to one of us asking about it before doing that 16:29
Sainsbo(APR): I know, I'm not blaming anyone. We were actually
going to discuss it between us three captains and then send out
PM's/let you know. 16:29
Faerdin (BoH): And that would have been even more time people
would have gone without the agenda and unaware that a meeting
was even in the works. 16:29
Faerdin (BoH): Another reason why we need to use The Celestial
Guardians' Forums more before we get a yes or not on the UU
Forum. 16:30
Faerdin (BoH): no* 16:30
Gingkage (BoH): I think we can agree that there was a slight
mix-up in communication, but no one was at fault. 16:30
Gingkage (BoH): Anyone else have anything to add/say/discuss?
16:31
Faerdin (BoH): I don't think so. 16:32
Sainsbo(APR): I don't have anything 16:32
Gingkage (BoH): All right, then I think we can call it here?
16:32
Ƈħįşāģėŋ: nothing here
16:32
Dragonknight315 (APR): I agree. We call it here. 16:33
Hopeful Guy (TCG): Fae, finish the summary then. 16:33
Veranex (APR): *bangs the gavel* BRING IN THE DANCING LOBSTERS
16:33
Dragonknight315 (APR) brings in the dancing lobsters 16:33
Faerdin (BoH) is sad because Amanda Bynes is crazy now .-. 16:33
Faerdin (BoH): I pretty much summed up all the important things
to take away already. 16:33
Gingkage (BoH): No idea who that is. 16:33
Hopeful Guy (TCG) throws the gavel. For added effect. :D 16:34
Faerdin (BoH): 1) Fight in the war. 16:34
Gingkage (BoH): So we're done and Miran doesn't have to leave?
16:34
Faerdin (BoH): 2) Keep up activity between clans; visit The
Celestial Guardians' Forum, at least. 16:34
Gingkage (BoH): Or are we kicking her out for two minutes while
we wrap up? 16:34
Miran Tideturner left this message : 16:34
Whoops, am I too early?
Faerdin (BoH): 3) Create a discussion thread on the
scriptwriting contest. 16:34
Mort: She can stay I say. 16:34
Hopeful Guy (TCG): I'm staying here to make a start on the
cross-clan activity. 16:34
Gingkage (BoH): Nah, you're good, Miran. We're wrapping up.
16:34
Faerdin (BoH): In The Celestial Guardians' Forums, I mean. 16:34
Miran Tideturner joined the chat 16:34
Faerdin (BoH): And then finally, 16:34
Veranex (APR): Hey Miran! 16:35
Hopeful Guy (TCG) thinks there's no time like the present 16:35
Miran Tideturner: :) good evening everyone 16:35
Faerdin (BoH): 4) Make a poll in each of our Forums for the UU
Forum. 16:35
Faerdin (BoH): So yeah. That's it, lol. 16:35
Mort: Just to say something though, can we be MUCH more mature
next time? At the start of things, it was horrendous to see
breaks just because of it. 16:36
Gingkage (BoH): Okay. 16:36
Faerdin (BoH): Agreed. 16:36
Dragonknight315 (APR): Yes, please. 16:36
Gingkage (BoH): Hopeful, Sains, I'll edit out the chatty bits of
the meeting and PM y'all the logs so y'all can get them to the
rest of the clans. 16:36
Sainsbo(APR): Thanks Ging. 16:36
Hopeful Guy (TCG): OK by me. 16:36
Veranex (APR): Well, guys, I'm gonna go lay down since I'm not
feeling so well 16:36
Faerdin (BoH): Meeting adjourned. 16:37
Veranex (APR): See you guys another time 16:37
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Re: Meeting of September 8th, 2013
DIR By: Hopeful Guy
Date: October 6, 2013, 4:18 am
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Just went through and condensed this into two posts.
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