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       #Post#: 559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3-Up XM-L build  - with beamshots
   DIR By: Spasmod
       Date: April 13, 2013, 2:15 pm
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       How on earth did I miss those beamshots ! wow that's a crazy
       amount of light..
       Which cells is that 18650 ? 40 minutes on high is impressive. So
       does the driver regulate the current in real time to keep the
       max temp constant ?
       Funny about the Police 3D mag. I'm curious to see a hand shot
       holding the light for scale :D
       #Post#: 562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3-Up XM-L build  - with beamshots
   DIR By: Chicago X
       Date: April 13, 2013, 3:29 pm
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       I was using Panasonic 3100 cells, and the module will dim the
       light as-needed to maintain the target set temperature you
       choose.
       Along with the user-programmable modes (up to 16, including
       ramping) this temp function makes for an amazing, powerful, and
       flexible unit.  PilotPTK has a winner here, IMO.
       I'll take some in-hand shots shortly.
       #Post#: 565--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3-Up XM-L build  - with beamshots
   DIR By: JohnnyMac
       Date: April 13, 2013, 6:48 pm
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       Simply amazing job, Chicago! Looks really nice!
       #Post#: 586--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3-Up XM-L build  - with beamshots
   DIR By: Chicago X
       Date: April 14, 2013, 2:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: JohnnyMac link ---
       >
       > Simply amazing job, Chicago! Looks really nice!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks Johnny !
       Here are the in-hand shots.  My hands are pretty big, so I
       included a shot next to a Defiant 3C for scale.
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       #Post#: 642--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3-Up XM-L build  - with beamshots
   DIR By: Spasmod
       Date: April 16, 2013, 6:12 pm
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       That is win on so many levels, thanks for the hand shot's it's
       good to see a size perspective. I haven't seen that host before,
       is that your design and build too ?
       Regarding the MCPCB, I'm assuming the entire board is made of
       copper with all the driver components naturally sharing the
       heatsink to ? That's a genius approach makes you wonder why
       nobody else does the same with their board designs in a multi
       emitter light.
       Working it back, the emitters are pulling roughly 1200mA (before
       efficiency losses) each before thermal regulation cuts in ?
       (just rough guestimate)
       Thanks again
       Spas
       #Post#: 644--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3-Up XM-L build  - with beamshots
   DIR By: Chicago X
       Date: April 16, 2013, 7:06 pm
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       Each LED pulls 3.2A at max power, but with the NW binning and
       optic losses it decreases output to around 2000 out-the-front.
       Brightness will be maintained until the set temp is reached,
       then the light decreases brightness only as much as is required
       to maintain that temperature.
       The host is the CNQG "Longrun" light, minus the guts.  I have
       seen near-identical hosts with the name "Magic Wand" and "Magic
       Scorpion" as well.
       #Post#: 647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3-Up XM-L build  - with beamshots
   DIR By: Spasmod
       Date: April 16, 2013, 9:34 pm
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       Ahh okay. Now I'm confused though, I thought you were running in
       series at approx 40 watts. My bad
       I'm thinking 3x cells under load approx 11v x 9.6 amps would be
       closer to 100w or am I way out here ? lol
       #Post#: 648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3-Up XM-L build  - with beamshots
   DIR By: Chicago X
       Date: April 16, 2013, 10:18 pm
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       The cell holder is at 12.6V, fully charged, and draws 3.2A
       12.6V X 3.2A = 40.32W total
       Three cells in series powering three LEDs in series.
       #Post#: 654--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3-Up XM-L build  - with beamshots
   DIR By: Spasmod
       Date: April 17, 2013, 8:13 am
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       --- Quote from: Chicago X link ---
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       > The cell holder is at 12.6V, fully charged, and draws 3.2A
       >
       > 12.6V X 3.2A = 40.32W total
       >
       > Three cells in series powering three LEDs in series.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That makes more sense, it's no wonder my calculations have never
       worked out LOL
       I can see it now :D  :D
       #Post#: 683--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3-Up XM-L build  - with beamshots
   DIR By: JohnnyMac
       Date: April 19, 2013, 9:31 am
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       --- Quote from: Spasmod link ---
       >
       > That is win on so many levels, thanks for the hand shot's it's
       good to see a size perspective. I haven't seen that host before,
       is that your design and build too ?
       >
       > Regarding the MCPCB, I'm assuming the entire board is made of
       copper with all the driver components naturally sharing the
       heatsink to ? That's a genius approach makes you wonder why
       nobody else does the same with their board designs in a multi
       emitter light.
       >
       > Working it back, the emitters are pulling roughly 1200mA
       (before efficiency losses) each before thermal regulation cuts
       in ? (just rough guestimate)
       >
       > Thanks again
       >
       > Spas
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Here is the host:
  HTML http://www.cnqualitygoods.com/goods.php?id=1208
       IIRC, FlashPilot didn't use a copper PCB for all the components.
       Everything is on a special semi-heat conductive board.  It's
       just super thin so the heat from the emitter passes through.
       Not the most efficient but not designed for over driving.  It's
       ample for what it does but not something you'd be modding for
       overdriven output.  The nice thing is everything is in the one
       piece (driver and emitters) and he has software you can use to
       customize the mode programming literally to anything your heart
       desires (number of modes, mode order, and output in each mode).
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