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New Scrum Law Directive
DIR By: uaerrs
Date: January 9, 2014, 3:04 am
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Hi Guys
Thoughts on the new Directive?
HTML http://www.irb.com/newsmedia/mediazone/pressrelease/newsid=2069952.html#irb+further+empowers+referees+scrums
In a minor revision to the current protocol surrounding the
ongoing scrum engagement global trial, the International Rugby
Board has confirmed that referees will use non-verbal
communication to indicate to the scrum-half when the ball can be
thrown into the scrum.
Up to now as part of the scrum trial, the referee has told the
scrum-half that the scrum is ready for the put-in by the use of
the phrase “yes nine”. But following an initial review,
including consultation with national coaches and referee
managers, it has been decided that referees will adopt a
non-verbal communication to scrum-halves for the introduction of
the ball.
This is in accordance with the relevant law (20.5 Throwing the
Ball Into the Scrum).
The change is effective immediately and will include this week’s
Heineken Cup and Amlin Challenge Cup matches in the northern
hemisphere (January 9-12). It will also include the next rounds
of other elite competitions, including the Top 14 in France
(January 24), Aviva Premiership in England (February 7-9) and
the Rabo Direct Pro 12 in other parts of Europe (February 7-9).
As with the original protocol, it is up to individual Unions to
decide whether this change will be adopted at levels below elite
Rugby.
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Re: New Scrum Law Directive
DIR By: rugby_mark
Date: January 9, 2014, 3:12 am
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Looking around Facebook, Twitter and the Internet, this topic
has received a load of coverage from lots of people. As a
result, I think we might struggle NOT to implement the new
directive this weekend.
As for HOW we do it, I'm not a big fan of standing in 'tunnel'.
Being short, this position doesn't allow me to see what I want
to see. However, if I'm standing on the scrum-half side I think
that I'll take up that position now and use the stepping aside
as an indication to the nine to put the ball in. Standing on the
opposite side of the scrum presents significantly less of an
issue since I think it's a simple nod of the head.
For what it's worth, think this is an excellent move and should
remove an option some teams have been using which is to
anticipate the ball coming in, predicated on the referee saying
'Yes 9'. I'd hope it might reduce a few of the scrum FKs that
tend to happen at the start of a game with front rows trying to
assert themselves...
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Re: New Scrum Law Directive
DIR By: uaerrs
Date: January 9, 2014, 2:42 pm
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Well, That went pretty well.
I just refereed the Arabian Knights v Al Ain Amblers. During my
pre-match I spoke to the 9 and explained to him (with the front
row) about the new IRB directive, and explained that I would
indicate I was happy by moving out of the tunnel or giving them
a nod (depending which side we were on).
During the game this posed no issues and the scrums went well
throughout the game. I only said "yes 9" once and that was out
of habit.
The only difference really no is that the opposition 9 is
commanding the "ball in" call to his team, which gives less
anticipation to the opposition giving the advantage back to the
team in possession. Taking this from us and putting it back on
player is great as we are there to officiate not interfear. Both
teams responded well and said that they have been training
without the "yes 9" in preparation.
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Re: New Scrum Law Directive
DIR By: Chris Linwood
Date: January 11, 2014, 2:35 am
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In my game yesterday, Harlequins 1sts v Dragons 1sts, the
implementation of this new directive worked well.
My pre-game message to the 9s were: (1) If I am on your side, me
moving away is your ok to come forward and put the ball in (I do
not move away until the scrum is set, square and steady); (2) If
I am on the opposite side, wait for a thumbs up from me before
putting the ball in.
This seemed to be well received and there were no major issues
with teams trying to pre-empt the put in.
The only slight issue was when I was standing on the other side
from the 9. Although I gave the thumbs up, I am not sure he was
looking for it or saw it. He always waited until the scrum was
square and steady anyway so there were no issues but I am not
sure how well this will work when there are difficulties. It is
something we have to keep reminding the scrumhalf of when
circumstances dictate we do not stand on the same side as them.
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Re: New Scrum Law Directive
DIR By: norman_drake
Date: January 22, 2014, 7:37 am
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Chris et al,
I concur with your statement/approach/pre-match talk.
Personally, I believe that it comes down to passing the
responsibility onto the 9. Generally, the key (for me), would
ultimately be a fair contest, which translates into a safe,
steady and square scrum- all of this is a requirement before the
feed anyway.
by standing in the tunnel with the first couple of scrums, my
view is that the 9 should get a clear understanding of when to
feed the scrum- it shouldn't matter if we are on the far side.
regards,
norman
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