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       #Post#: 711951--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 35.Bölüm
       By: Asimina Date: December 4, 2015, 12:14 pm
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       [quote author=Mala Masal\" data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4151\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"711948
       date=1449251909][/quote] What can Poyraz do? After all ,Adil
       Topal IS his father. If Bahri finds out the truth, he won\'t
       spare him, he will kill him immediately.Poyraz doesn\'t want
       this to happen......He also has the Undersecretary\'s threat
       hanging over his head.However, he still has the strength to make
       jokes, to laugh, to protect his loved ones, to care for
       others....This character is exceptional!!!!!!
       #Post#: 711953--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 35.Bölüm
       By: Angel/Poyraz Date: December 4, 2015, 12:28 pm
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       [quote author=Asimina\" data-ipsquote-contapp=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4151\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"711951\"> What can Poyraz do?
       After all ,Adil Topal IS his father. If Bahri finds out the
       truth, he won\'t spare him, he will kill him immediately.Poyraz
       doesn\'t want this to happen......He also has the
       Undersecretary\'s threat hanging over his head.However, he still
       has the strength to make jokes, to laugh, to protect his loved
       ones, to care for others....This character is
       exceptional!!!!!! [/quote]I totally understand but then he needs
       to give up on the idea of having any kind of relationship with
       Bahri.  Life s often about having to make tough choices.  He
       needs to choose what matters most out all the things that matter
       to him and make that choice.I agree, he is inspiring <img
       title=\":mf_cupid:\" alt=\":mf_cupid:\"
       src=\"<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/default_mf_cupid.gif
       date=1449252855]
       #Post#: 711956--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 35.Bölüm
       By: Mala Masal Date: December 4, 2015, 12:33 pm
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       [quote author=Asimina\" data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4151\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"711951 date=1449252855] What
       can Poyraz do? After all ,Adil Topal IS his father. If Bahri
       finds out the truth, he won\'t spare him, he will kill him
       immediately.Poyraz doesn\'t want this to happen......He also has
       the Undersecretary\'s threat hanging over his head.However, he
       still has the strength to make jokes, to laugh, to protect his
       loved ones, to care for others....This character is
       exceptional!!!!!! [/quote]We have a saying - you can\'t sit on
       two chairs at the same time ... he will end up loosing
       everyone\'s trust and then what?? Will he run to his father
       asking for his comfort? Ismail is his father,but he is pure
       evil,Poyraz must make a choice ... 
       #Post#: 711959--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 35.Bölüm
       By: Angel/Poyraz Date: December 4, 2015, 12:43 pm
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       [quote author=Mala Masal\" data-ipsquote-contapp=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4151\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"711956 date=1449254013]We have
       a saying - you can\'t sit on two chairs at the same time ... he
       will end up loosing everyone\'s trust and then what?? Will he
       run to his father asking for his comfort? Ismail is his
       father,but he is pure evil,Poyraz must make a choice
       ... [/quote]Yep! Absolutely. He may not want Adil killed but he
       certainly wants him in jail and punished. I don\'t think he will
       be able to forgive all Adil has done so I honestly see it as
       really counter productive on his part.  He wants to keep
       everything and it\'s impossible. Bahri has already made it very
       clear that he will not forgive not having been told the truth
       about. AG is trying to be supportive but she\'s about to
       crack and is more than ready to just go and tell Baba.  Will he
       really choose Ismail over Bahri? If so, then let go of Bahri. Of
       course, another question is will Bahri accept him as a partner
       to AG if he keeps lying after having been warned?  What he\'s
       risking is ending up losing people that actually truly love him
       over Ismail. So he\'s cornered by the Secretary. Well, they
       wouldn\'t be able to force him into this had he had a little
       more self control. He has put himself into this mess. He needs
       to take responsibility for his actions. Sometimes he acts like
       he\'s a child and life is a video game. He needs to start taking
       this situation more seriously. Look at where he is now, having
       the daylights beaten out of him by Sadrettin after the
       relationship had improved. Losing Baba\'s trust by the minute. 
       #Post#: 711961--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 35.Bölüm
       By: Gina Date: December 4, 2015, 12:54 pm
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       <blockquote data-ipsquote=\"\" data-cite=\"Quote\"
       class=\"ipsQuote\">[/quote]Whis is a <span lang=\"en\">the
       essence of  Poyraz s nature He is not real Nobody  can live and
       bare  a person like Poyraz in real life .they are all very
       stecific strange characters . 
       #Post#: 711963--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 35.Bölüm
       By: Asimina Date: December 4, 2015, 1:02 pm
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       [quote author=Angel/Poyraz\"
       data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4151\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"711959 date=1449254585]Yep!
       Absolutely. He may not want Adil killed but he certainly wants
       him in jail and punished. I don\'t think he will be able to
       forgive all Adil has done so I honestly see it as really counter
       productive on his part.  He wants to keep everything and it\'s
       impossible. Bahri has already made it very clear that he will
       not forgive not having been told the truth about. AG is trying
       to be supportive but she\'s about to crack and is more than
       ready to just go and tell Baba.  Will he really choose Ismail
       over Bahri? If so, then let go of Bahri. Of course, another
       question is will Bahri accept him as a partner to AG if he keeps
       lying after having been warned?  What he\'s risking is ending up
       losing people that actually truly love him over Ismail. So he\'s
       cornered by the Secretary. Well, they wouldn\'t be able to force
       him into this had he had a little more self control. He has put
       himself into this mess. He needs to take responsibility for his
       actions. Sometimes he acts like he\'s a child and life is a
       video game. He needs to start taking this situation more
       seriously. Look at where he is now, having the daylights beaten
       out of him by Sadrettin after the relationship had improved.
       Losing Baba\'s trust by the minute. [/quote]Yes, you are
       right....but it\'s obvious he can\'t choose so easily.His choice
       will have painful consequences. First of all, he will lose his
       sister once more.....she has told him that she doesn\'t want
       their father to get hurt. AG is ready to crack for sure....but
       how will she feel when her father disposes of Topal? She
       couldn\'t allow her brother\'s murderer die,I\'m afraid she will
       feel more than guilty....Yes, Poyraz has to make a really tough
       choice, I wouldn\'t want to be in his shoes. Only if he can
       persuade Bahri not to kill Topal, but allow him to live in order
       to expose the rotten drug cartel and everyone behind it will
       Poyraz  have the possibility of becoming happy....One thing\'s
       for sure, Bahri won\'t look at him the way he did after  he
       finds out Poyraz is Topal\'s son......  
       #Post#: 711970--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 35.Bölüm
       By: Angel/Poyraz Date: December 4, 2015, 1:14 pm
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       [quote author=Asimina\" data-ipsquote-contapp=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4151\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"711963 date=1449255763]Yes, you
       are right....but it\'s obvious he can\'t choose so easily.His
       choice will have painful consequences. First of all, he will
       lose his sister once more.....she has told him that she doesn\'t
       want their father to get hurt. AG is ready to crack for
       sure....but how will she feel when her father disposes of Topal?
       She couldn\'t allow her brother\'s murderer die,I\'m afraid she
       will feel more than guilty....Yes, Poyraz has to make a really
       tough choice, I wouldn\'t want to be in his shoes. Only if he
       can persuade Bahri not to kill Topal, but allow him to live in
       order to expose the rotten drug cartel and everyone behind it
       will Poyraz  have the possibility of becoming happy....One
       thing\'s for sure, Bahri won\'t look at him the way he did after
        he finds out Poyraz is Topal\'s son......   [/quote]I believe,
       just like AG, Bahri\'s feelings for Poyraz won\'t change. He
       certainly won\'t hold it against him. He will only feel
       differently about him if he discovers Poyraz has been concealing
       what he knows as a way of \"protecting\" Adil Topal, his father.
       The problem is that Bahri has given Poyraz so many chances and
       overlooked so many things and Poyraz has only in turn lied over
       and over again. I do understand the situation is nearly
       impossible but it has sort of been self created. He wanted to
       play a game with Adil and so now it\'s all turned on him and
       become more complicated.  I do believe he could have convinced
       Bahri to be a little patient, especially if he had AG on his
       side and Bahri was made full aware of the plan but he took a
       gamble and now he\'s up creek without a paddle. There\'s no
       turning back now.  Again, tough choice but it needs to be made.
       Otherwise he really could lose everything. He\'s even luck Begum
       is in her state. She could have easily taken Sinan away because
       to be honest, being Poyraz\'s son right now puts Sinan is some
       serious danger. 
       #Post#: 712014--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 35.Bölüm
       By: green king Date: December 4, 2015, 4:42 pm
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       Too late for the guessing game, both perfect fragmans, about the
       first, Pelin is back finally, Sinan has an antagonist and he is
       doing something about it. Hilarious and things i wanted to see
       are almost here.   
       #Post#: 712024--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 35.Bölüm
       By: vici Date: December 4, 2015, 6:03 pm
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       [quote author=Gina\" data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4151\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"711961\">Whis is a <span
       lang=\"en\">the essence of  Poyraz s nature He is not real
       Nobody  can live and bare  a person like Poyraz in real life
       .they are all very stecific strange characters . [/quote]Ayy,
       Gina you make me remind a quote of Pablo Picasso\'
       quote<em> Everything you can imagine is real </em><img
       title=\":mavi1:\" alt=\":mavi1:\"
       src=\"<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/mavi1.gif
       date=1449255296] That\'s actuaally why I love PK.
       #Post#: 712066--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 35.Bölüm
       By: Gina Date: December 5, 2015, 6:10 am
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       [quote author=vici date=1449273822\" data-ipsquote=\"\"
       data-cite=\"vici\" class=\"ipsQuote\">Ayy, Gina you make me
       remind a quote of Pablo Picasso\' quote<em> Everything you
       can imagine is real </em><img title=\":mavi1:\" alt=\":mavi1:\"
       src=\"<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/mavi1.gif] That\'s
       actuaally why I love PK.[/quote]I have no imagination then ,but
       i love Poyraz as a character. 
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