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       Poyraz Karayel 31.Bölüm
       By: Angel/Poyraz Date: November 5, 2015, 1:07 pm
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       [quote author=maraki84!\" data-ipsquote-contapp=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4126\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"703181 date=1446750024]Maybe
       you are right. maybe his plan hasn\'t gone this far yet to think
       of the consequences of it. Everything fell upon him so quickly
       that it is kind of difficult to imagine of what will happen
       next. he just threw himself at the cold waters and started to
       swim. There are big waves ahead. I really want to know how will
       he survive from now on....i love Bahri Baba very much, so does
       Poyraz but are we all sure that Bahri is innocent in this Adil
       Topal issue? Are we sure that only he was the one who lost
       family members? Adil told Meltem something like he was forced to
       leave them. This could be because he wanted to get away from
       Bahri, but why all this hate, all these years? And if he was so
       much afraid of Bahri because he murdered his father why did he
       kill his son too? What Bahri did to him? He is mafia after all.
        Maybe poyraz is trying to find that truth, if there is any. He
       for sure tries to find out why he treated him and his sister
       like that, attempting to kill Poyraz (because the attempt was on
       Poyraz at Sinan\'s party) and why he tried to poison Meltem? Why
       is he doing all these things? If Bahri kills him no truth will
       come out.[/quote]According to Bahri\'s story, Adil and his
       brothers all participated in killing Hasan.  We saw that two
       were look outs while Adil and one other brother held and stabbed
       him. Bahri says he killed three of them and only Adil got away.
       So I suppose Bahri retaliates for Hasan and in turn Adil
       retaliates for his brothers. When Hasan was killed we see an
       image of a very innocent Bahri. That event seems to be what
       threw him into this life.  I think he ran because of Bahri. If
       that\'s even the truth. He may just be lying. Maybe it is a lie
       that will use to get Meltem against Bahri in the future. It is
       insinuated that there is a lot of money and power at stake here
       and that could be motivation enough for Ismail to do what he
       does. He barely knew his kids when he left them and it seems he
       kept track of them only because he wanted to use them.  
       #Post#: 703274--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 31.Bölüm
       By: nszureen Date: November 6, 2015, 7:02 am
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       Sedrettin has gone mad.. Again! 
       #Post#: 703275--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 31.Bölüm
       By: nszureen Date: November 6, 2015, 7:09 am
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       [quote author=Angel/Poyraz\"
       data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4126\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"703172\">The one thing he keeps
       mentioning every time is that Bahri will kill him. I think that
       is what is driving him. He has enough proof that Ismail is not a
       very nice person. I understand he feels betrayed and wants to
       look deeper but from what I see his reason for not telling Bahri
       and now AG is very simple. Bahri will kill Ismail. Maybe naive
       is not the right word. Let\'s say that maybe he\'s not even
       thinking that far ahead yet. He\'s not thinking about the
       punishment yet because his plan is in the early stages. Keep
       Ismail alive long enough so he can get to the truth. You\'re
       welcome . Life in a series is tough and complicated! <img
       title=\":mfr_lol:\" alt=\":mfr_lol:\"
       src=\"<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/default_mfr_lol.gif
       date=1446749092]
       #Post#: 703293--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 31.Bölüm
       By: Angel/Poyraz Date: November 6, 2015, 8:12 am
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       [quote author=nszureen\" data-ipsquote-contapp=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4126\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"703274\">Sedrettin has gone
       mad.. Again!  )  We\'ll see. I am of course also very very eager
       for 31<img title=\":faim:\" alt=\":faim:\"
       src=\"<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/default_faim.gif
       date=1446814933]
       #Post#: 703295--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 31.Bölüm
       By: Angel/Poyraz Date: November 6, 2015, 8:17 am
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       [quote author=nszureen\" data-ipsquote-contapp=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4126\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"703275\">it just cross my
       mind.. Maybe he should just tell bahri. Remember when he lied to
       him about not being in love with AG? Didn\'t Bahri told him..
       You should come to me as a man and tell me u\'re in love with my
       daughter, and I would\'ve put some thought on it.  Well I know
       it\'s a different situation now.. But considering his past, he
       should have just try his luck this time. If bahri didn\'t accept
       it, well.. What can I say. . Life in a series is tough and
       complicated! <img title=\":mfr_lol:\" alt=\":mfr_lol:\"
       src=\"<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/default_mfr_lol.gif
       date=1446815382][/quote]I was thinking the same but the
       circumstances are just very different. I think had it been just
       about Hasan, he would have maybe worked with Poyraz and been
       patient but Bahri is like a rabid dog now. Not only the Onur
       issue has surfaced but now AG as well. No way Bahri wouldn\'t
       take out Adil\'s heart through his belly button with his own two
       hands the moment he saw him. Again, as long as Bahri can\'t
       establish a connection between Ismail and Ufuk, Ismail should be
       safe. So put Ufuk in bubble wrap in some basement for a while
       until you figure things out. I do think he should tell AG
       something (even if not in great detail) so she can\'t hold the
       lie against him later. 
       #Post#: 703296--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 31.Bölüm
       By: Asimina Date: November 6, 2015, 8:23 am
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       [quote author=Angel/Poyraz date=1446819135\" data-ipsquote=\"\"
       data-cite=\"Angel/Poyraz\">The way Poyraz moves I got the
       feeling there was contact but hopefully just a graze. They\'ve
       already done Poyraz seriously injured in the hospital thing. I
       don\'t wanna see it repeated. It would be nice to have
       co-operation between Poyraz and Mete (although Mete would
       probably just be criticized for being involved as he\'s not a
       cop falan e )  We\'ll see. I am of course also very very eager
       for 31[/quote]Sending people to hospital twice or three times in
       the same series is quite common, and they all recover
       miraculously within a couple of days...<img title=\":eyebrow:\"
       alt=\":eyebrow:\"
       src=\"<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/new_eyebrow.gif]Neyse
       ,
       I\'d hate to see babyblueEyesMete co-operate with Poyraz, no,
       our Poyraz should save AG on his own and clean up this
       mess.....He should have followed his sister\'s advice and talk
       to Bahri, if he doesn\'t talk now then he will, too, be
       responsible for whatever follows...If he talks to Bahri he must
       make sure B. understands that they still want Topal alive
       and-maybe -followed, to uncover all his dirty business. Poyraz
       is a person Bahri thinks highly of and takes his opinion into
       serious consideration, I\'d hate to see our loving, kind-hearted
       Bahri end up as a mean,horrible Mafia boss...His
       integrity,honesty, and compassion were the things that made
       Poyraz-and us!- love him in the first place
       #Post#: 703303--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 31.Bölüm
       By: Angel/Poyraz Date: November 6, 2015, 8:42 am
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       [quote author=Asimina\" data-ipsquote-contapp=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4126\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"703296\">Sending people to
       hospital twice or three times in the same series is quite
       common, and they all recover miraculously within a couple of
       days...<img title=\":eyebrow:\" alt=\":eyebrow:\"
       src=\"<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/new_eyebrow.gif
       date=1446819816]Neyse, I\'d hate to see babyblueEyesMete
       co-operate with Poyraz, no, our Poyraz should save AG on his own
       and clean up this mess.....He should have followed his sister\'s
       advice and talk to Bahri, if he doesn\'t talk now then he will,
       too, be responsible for whatever follows...If he talks to Bahri
       he must make sure B. understands that they still want Topal
       alive and-maybe -followed, to uncover all his dirty business.
       Poyraz is a person Bahri thinks highly of and takes his opinion
       into serious consideration, I\'d hate to see our loving,
       kind-hearted Bahri end up as a mean,horrible Mafia boss...His
       integrity,honesty, and compassion were the things that made
       Poyraz-and us!- love him in the first place[/quote]I\'d like to
       think this is not the type of dizi that falls into that. So
       hopefully no Poyraz in surgery again. I am afraid to say that I
       don\'t think even AG could convince Bahri of letting Topal live
       a day longer. His connection with Poyraz may be strong but it\'s
       not what it used to be after all the lies and betrayal. Poyraz
       is lucky Nahri even looks at him considering that Bahri doesn\'t
       know the reason why Poyraz betrayed him.  I also think the
       gloves are off with Adil and it\'s totally understandable. As
       Bahri says, he may not be proud of it, be he won\'t regret
       putting any compassion aside when it comes to dealing with Adil
       Topal. We saw what he did to Zafer, who had done nothing
       compared to what Adil Topal has done. 
       #Post#: 703357--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 31.Bölüm
       By: Igiso Date: November 6, 2015, 12:05 pm
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       Although my soulmate (Sinan) is still home
       #Post#: 703393--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 31.Bölüm
       By: green king Date: November 6, 2015, 4:52 pm
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        Indeed Apple  WTF I am seeing? Madness. Sadrettin reached
       boiling point and by what the fragman shows it\'s only Sadrettin
       that is taking Meltem to exchange her with Aysegul, the stooges
       seem reluctant and i don\'t know if this was approved by Bahri
       although Bahri sees red now with the latest revelations. Aysegul
       will come out fine and the shot is just a scratch, i agree with
       Empress, in this Dizzi they don\'t use the same and the same
       again and it doesn\'t fall into usual cliches(except one but it
       resolved quickly so it doesn\'t count), i wonder though about
       the aftereffects if Sadrettin doesn\'t act alone and he is
       supported by Bahri, how Poyraz will take it? On the discussion
       you had i have to say, classic Poyraz, he is facing again an
       impossible situation where every choice is difficult and again
       he decides to keep Aysegul and Bahri in the dark and to act
       alone. He wants to be absolutely sure that Ismail is Adil, he
       wants to learn what his father is hiding and where he has been
       all these years, possibly he wants to extract revenge and
       possibly cause Ismail is his father he feels uneasy of being
       responsible being killed but there is no easy way out of this,
       perhaps he should say everything to Bahri and Aysegul including
       the reason he betrayed them before as soon possible, with
       another breach of trust he won\'t have a second chance. Keeping
       Ufuk in a bubble is a solution for now but i have the impression
       that Ufuk became a liability and he will bite the dust soon.
       About Bahri killing Ismail, i think we incorrectly take it for
       granted, if Ismail is indeed Adil he wouldn\'t risk coming out
       in the open without being sure about his safety. 
       #Post#: 703399--------------------------------------------------
       Poyraz Karayel 31.Bölüm
       By: Angel/Poyraz Date: November 6, 2015, 8:08 pm
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       [quote author=green king\" data-ipsquote-contapp=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contenttype=\"forums\"
       data-ipsquote-contentclass=\"forums_Topic\"
       data-ipsquote-contentid=\"4126\"
       data-ipsquote-contentcommentid=\"703393\"> Indeed Apple  WTF I
       am seeing? Madness. Sadrettin reached boiling point and by what
       the fragman shows it\'s only Sadrettin that is taking Meltem to
       exchange her with Aysegul, the stooges seem reluctant and i
       don\'t know if this was approved by Bahri although Bahri sees
       red now with the latest revelations. Aysegul will come out fine
       and the shot is just a scratch, i agree with Empress, in this
       Dizzi they don\'t use the same and the same again and it
       doesn\'t fall into usual cliches(except one but it resolved
       quickly so it doesn\'t count), i wonder though about the
       aftereffects if Sadrettin doesn\'t act alone and he is supported
       by Bahri, how Poyraz will take it? On the discussion you had i
       have to say, classic Poyraz, he is facing again an impossible
       situation where every choice is difficult and again he decides
       to keep Aysegul and Bahri in the dark and to act alone. He wants
       to be absolutely sure that Ismail is Adil, he wants to learn
       what his father is hiding and where he has been all these years,
       possibly he wants to extract revenge and possibly cause Ismail
       is his father he feels uneasy of being responsible being killed
       but there is no easy way out of this, perhaps he should say
       everything to Bahri and Aysegul including the reason he betrayed
       them before as soon possible, with another breach of trust he
       won\'t have a second chance. Keeping Ufuk in a bubble is a
       solution for now but i have the impression that Ufuk became a
       liability and he will bite the dust soon. About Bahri killing
       Ismail, i think we incorrectly take it for granted, if Ismail is
       indeed Adil he wouldn\'t risk coming out in the open without
       being sure about his safety. [/quote]We know Poyraz will be
       fine. I\'m more worried about what they may do to Sadrettin or
       even another stooge if a gun fight breaks out. It\'s clear now
       that Sadrettin is not Baba. He will not hesitate. Again, I
       wonder how much is this is scripted. Sadrettin may assume that
       by taking Meltem, he may lead Poyraz to Ufuk and Poyraz could
       also immediately get Meltem back.  I don\'t know what anyone is
       thinking. Hepsi manyak bunlarin. <img
       src=\"<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/default_biggrin.png\"
       alt=\":D\" title=\":D date=1446850340]   At this point I can\'t
       even guess what Baba is thinking but one can assume he would be
       willing to give Meltem in exchange for AG. He already told
       Poyraz what\'s up if they are on opposite teams. I think Adil is
       relying on this political cover to keep him save and disguised
       for the time being. 
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