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       Re: Refugees Welcome
   DIR By: AllTimeHigh
       Date: September 22, 2023, 1:27 pm
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       Westerners will continue to break this record constantly in the
       coming years with the climate-crisis western civilization has
       created and all the climate refugees that will come from it...
       Concerns and challenges arise as US border crossings soar to
       all-time high
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       > THESE scenes of thousands of migrants gathered at the
       U.S.-Mexico border are reminiscent of the influx the country saw
       before U.S. President Joe Biden in May rolled out a new policy
       to deter illegal crossings.
       >
       > Within a month, those tough measures such as deporting
       migrants and banning re-entry for five years drove the
       border-crossing rate down some 70%.
       >
       > But four months on, and the early deterrent effect appears to
       be wearing off.
       >
       > Record numbers of migrants, in the thousands, have crossed
       into the United States in recent days,
       >
       > with many more still arriving by bus and cargo trains to
       Mexican border towns.
       >
       > The surge could represent a looming political challenge for
       Biden heading into election season.
       >
       > Enrique Lucero is Tijuana's director of migrant affairs.
       >
       > "The big problem we see is that it could become a humanitarian
       crisis. Irregular border crossings are being encouraged,
       generating organised crime and human trafficking. These are the
       risks we see if decisions are not taken promptly."
       >
       > Experts say the U.S. lacks the capacity to detain and process
       migrants at the border often making it impossible for the
       administration to carry out the harsh penalties it announced in
       May.
       >
       > And as a result, some asylum seekers who cross illegally are
       being released into the U.S. with a future court date, rather
       than being deported.
       >
       > Their success stories are repeated back to migrants still en
       route.
       >
       > This Venezuelan migrant, still on the Mexican side of the
       border, says he heard rumours about people being let into the
       U.S. after turning themselves into border agents.
       >
       > He's determined to continue on his journey.
       >
       > The U.S. Customs and Border Protection meanwhile has told
       Reuters that it was "safely and efficiently" processing migrants
       and would impose consequences, including deportation, on
       migrants without a legal basis to stay in the country.
       --- End Quote ---
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN4sNLkmsqg
       Rightist comments:
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       > Illegals won’t be so lucky as Trump has asked for more border
       security and DeSantis is more than obliging as in Florida
       there’s a lot of them, Alligators. That will keep the vermin
       out.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > You can thank Joe Biden for this mess.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > Welcome to America my Brothers! MS13 gang! Viva el Slavador!
       --- End Quote ---
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       > But billions to Zelensky
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       > Water cannons!
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       > I'm to other states bus them
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       #Post#: 23418--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Climate refugees
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: November 5, 2023, 3:18 pm
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  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/environmental-disasters-dark-tourism-modern-091032136.html
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       > Climate change and ensuing environmental disasters – marked by
       an increasing frequency and intensity of destructive floods,
       droughts, storms, wildfires and extreme temperatures – are now
       fueling what experts say are just the first waves of places
       abandoned due to climate displacement.
       >
       > “We are going to see a movement – it’s already happening –
       where people are moving away from these areas that are most
       impacted by storms, by rising sea levels and floods, but also by
       constant fire, smoke inhalation – all of that,” says Gaia Vince,
       author of “Nomad Century: How Climate Migration Will Reshape Our
       World.”
       >
       > She cites recent examples like wildfires in Hawaii, California
       and Australia, and floods in Bangladesh, as some of the latest
       triggers for population displacements.
       >
       > “How many people are going to return to Lahaina in Hawaii
       after the fires there?” she questions. “I don’t think it’ll be
       100% of the population that left. Some people will not be able
       to.”
       > ...
       > More than 20 million people are forced to leave their homes
       due to extreme weather events each year, according to the United
       Nations. Researchers have projected that by the end of the
       century, somewhere in the range of 3 to 6 billion people will be
       “left outside the ‘human climate niche’” that best supports
       life.
       >
       > “It doesn’t mean that 3 to 6 billion people will have to move,
       but it does mean a lot of people have to move,” Vince notes.
       This, she says, will disproportionality affect communities of
       color and/or those who are already facing poverty.
       >
       > “Typically, migration and displacement, these are processes
       that are rooted in inequality,” explains DeWaard, who adds that
       the climate crisis is only “going to exacerbate the existing
       inequalities of today.”
       --- End Quote ---
       Every available pathway must be opened starting now.
       Idiot comment of the day:
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       > Climate change is a false narrative based on pseudo-science.
       >
       > While the claim there exists a greenhouse effect from CO2
       which absorbs energy and warms the Earth is true, it is more
       precisely a half truth. We only get one part of the full story.
       Does that energy really warm the planet?
       >
       > Blow on any finger. Now, lick it and blow on it again.
       Obviously, it feels cooler. Why? This is known as evaporative
       cooling. The energy from the force of the air increased the
       amount of evaporation. This process removes heat and thus the
       coolness we feel.
       >
       > What happens when CO2 increases? It radiates more energy back
       towards Earth's surface. The surface of planet Earth is about
       3/4 covered in water. We get increased evaporative cooling at
       the surface for the same reason our finger feels cooler. This is
       the part of the story we are never told.
       >
       > See how subtle this half truth is. It turns what is actually
       two balanced (warming and cooling) effects into a perceived
       warming effect by leaving out the cooling effect entirely.
       --- End Quote ---
       I sweat more during summer than during winter. According to this
       idiot, therefore summer feels as cold as winter.
       All global warming deniers should have their homes given to
       climate refugees. They can have the climate refugees' old homes
       in the overheated countries in exchange. They should have no
       trouble living in those countries according to their own
       beliefs.
       #Post#: 24282--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Climate refugees
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: December 3, 2023, 6:19 pm
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  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/hottest-temperature-human-survive-much-130000930.html
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       > The Hottest Temperature A Human Can Survive Is Much Lower Than
       You Think
       > ...
       > Externally, the upper limit of the human body’s thermoneutral
       zone—the ambient temperature range in which the body can
       effectively maintain its temperature and equilibrium—likely
       falls somewhere between 104 and 122 degrees Fahrenheit,
       according to a 2021 study published in Physiology Report. Once
       the air temperature hits 122 degrees, our bodies can no longer
       dissipate heat and our core temperature rises. But another study
       cites a much lower limit of 89.6 degrees—the temperature at
       which humans start sweating. Beyond air temperature, humidity
       plays a big role too, and the higher the humidity the harder our
       bodies have to work to stay cool.
       >
       > The limits for internal body temperature are even more
       restrictive. According to MedlinePlus, brain damage can occur
       once the body reaches an internal temperature of 107.6 degrees
       Fahrenheit.
       > ...
       > As climate change continues, especially without efforts by the
       world’s governments to counteract it, more people will become
       climate refugees.
       --- End Quote ---
       Just this past summer:
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       #Post#: 24613--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Climate refugees
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: December 29, 2023, 10:27 pm
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       Our enemies find someone who understands the issue:
  HTML https://gatesofvienna.net/2023/12/forget-having-white-children-import-culture-enrichers-instead/
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       > Verena Brunschweiger is an Austrian author and progressive
       activist who advocates for white European women to remain
       childless, while the inflow of “migrants” from Africa and the
       Middle East should be increased, all in order to save the
       planet.
       >
       > Below is a video in which Ms. Brunschweiger speaks her mind
       > ...
       > 00:00 
       people in Europe forgo children,
       > 00:04 
       we focus more
       > 00:07 
       to have children again?
       > 00:11 
       > 00:14 
       destroying?
       > 00:17 
       Asia
       > 00:20 
       the climate change we are producing here,
       > 00:25 
       them,
       > 00:29 
       we don’t need you.”?
       > 00:33 
       racist and inconsiderate without equal.
       > 00:39 
       terms of reproduction.
       > 00:43 
       > 00:47 
       [leftist term for people from three continents].
       > 00:51 
       whose countries,
       > 00:54 
       inhabit them
       > 00:57 
       home.
       > 01:00 
       nothing to eat, nothing at all.
       > 01:03 
       --- End Quote ---
       By no coincidence, Brunschweiger also looks Aesir:
       [img width=1280
       height=960]
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       #Post#: 24969--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Climate refugees
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: February 4, 2024, 4:23 pm
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       Now:
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       In the near future:
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       The solution:
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       Our message is spreading:
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       YES, THEY ARE!
       #Post#: 26226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Climate refugees
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: May 3, 2024, 2:10 am
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzBGeRwIL3g
       Woke comments:
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       > Uninhabitable meaning that heat waves are becoming longer and
       hotter. The limitations to the human body will not allow it to
       cool once the wet bulb temperature reaches 98.6 which we are
       approaching now during the the most intense heat waves
       >
       > With the temperature continually rising, we can only expect
       that this will become more prevalent throughout the year as well
       as widespread in area affected. So if you read between the
       lines, these areas will not be safe to go outside at certain
       points of the year for any length of time.
       >
       > Soon after the insurance companies will bail, the economy will
       crash in that area.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > If we don't do anything we will be the frogs that get cooked
       slowly in that story.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > Time to move up north or down south
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       > Australia?
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       Australia is a good option, as it is one of the most to blame
       for global warming:
       [img]
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       If Australia refuses to accept climate refugees, it should be
       militarily invaded.
       #Post#: 26237--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Climate refugees
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: May 3, 2024, 7:25 pm
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKREOfIybR4
       Woke comments:
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       > Seriously, DW?! "Communities like these will have to find ways
       to adapt in the years ahead"? They are suffering the
       consequences of production and consumption patterns of developed
       countries, and THEY HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO ADAPT?
       --- End Quote ---
       So long as the way to adapt is by migrating to the countries
       which are to blame.
       --- Quote ---
       > Fingers crossed what happens when the international community,
       particularly the global south becomes more aware about how other
       countries remotely destroyed their living environment.
       --- End Quote ---
       They eliminate the gene pool behind the Industrial Revolution?
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       > Migrate to Alaska
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       > Cool in New England
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       > Here in Scotland it's spring but still under 10'C.
       --- End Quote ---
       You know where to go. Will you start moving soon?
       #Post#: 26616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Climate refugees
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: May 31, 2024, 5:17 pm
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqBrL8BokSk
       Woke comments:
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       > If you're at the point where you have to burn through
       electricity to power AC all day just to survive indoors, you do
       have to start questioning whether that location is a viable long
       term habitat for humans.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > I honestly feel mostly sorry for all the animals being
       affected by this, who are completely innocent, and also all the
       people in the poor regions of the world who’s lifestyles have
       not caused this but yet they are the first who will die from
       either the heat itself, or from lack of water or food as a
       result, or the famine that this will cause.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > There's no way the whole Indian subcontinent and the other
       at-risk areas will be able to protect all the people that live
       there.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > let human wave russia
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       > it’s gonna get a lot more crowded here in New England
       --- End Quote ---
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       > I'll celebrate when the habitable area reaches Finland.
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       Any country with a significant number of global warming deniers
       is probably a good destination country for climate refugees.
       #Post#: 26634--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Climate refugees
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: June 2, 2024, 3:58 pm
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       Expect more of the same soon:
  HTML https://news.sky.com/story/families-forced-to-evacuate-panama-island-due-to-rising-sea-levels-13146859
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       > The Gunas of Gardi Sugdub, an island with a 200-year-old
       history and home to about 300 families, will be relocated to the
       mainland as part of a $12m (£9.4m) project to bring people to
       safer shores.
       >
       > Steven Paton, director of the Smithsonian Institution's
       physical monitoring program in Panama, said the upcoming move
       "is a direct consequence of climate change through the increase
       in sea level".
       > ...
       > Some residents have decided to stay until it's no longer safe
       to do so, an official with Panama's ministry of housing said,
       adding no one is currently being forced to leave against their
       will.
       > ...
       > "The islands on average are only a half-meter above sea level,
       and as that level rises, sooner or later the Gunas are going to
       have to abandon all of the islands almost surely by the end of
       the century or earlier," Mr Paton said.
       --- End Quote ---
       Why stop at mainland Panama, a tropical habitat which will heat
       up even more within the foreseeable future? Why not take the
       chance to relocate to a cooler habitat by making use of the
       already operational routes described here?
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/drowning-kidnap-and-jaguars-travelling-the-deadly-darien-gap-migrant-route-to-th/msg22710/#msg22710
       #Post#: 26804--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Climate refugees
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: June 19, 2024, 12:32 pm
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       They could have become climate refugees and Operation Gaddafi
       activists simultaneously, but instead:
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/diplomats-least-550-pilgrims-died-192230946.html
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       > Diplomats on Tuesday said at least 550 pilgrims died during
       the hajj, underscoring the gruelling nature of the pilgrimage
       which again unfolded in scorching temperatures this year.
       >
       > At least 323 of those who died were Egyptians, most of them
       succumbing to heat-related illnesses
       > ...
       > At least 60 Jordanians also died, the diplomats said, up from
       an official tally of 41 given earlier on Tuesday by Amman.
       >
       > The new deaths bring the total reported so far by multiple
       countries to 577, according to an AFP tally.
       > ...
       > The hajj is one of the five pillars of Islam and all Muslims
       with the means must complete it at least once.
       >
       > The pilgrimage is increasingly affected by climate change,
       according to a Saudi study published last month that said
       temperatures in the area where rituals are performed were rising
       0.4 degrees Celsius (0.72 degrees Fahrenheit) each decade.
       >
       > Temperatures hit 51.8 degrees Celsius (125 Fahrenheit) at the
       Grand Mosque in Mecca on Monday
       >
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