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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 24, 2022, 8:13 pm
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Previously:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg590/?topicseen#msg590
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg10011/?topicseen#msg10011
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg12828/?topicseen#msg12828
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg13119/?topicseen#msg13119
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg13361/?topicseen#msg13361
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg13528/?topicseen#msg13528
Now a new sign that it is time to leave:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/heavy-rains-lightning-kill-least-061039380.html
--- Quote ---
> LUCKNOW, India (AP) — Hazardous weather has killed at least 36
people in northern India over the past 24 hours, including 12
who who were struck by lightning, officials said as they warned
of more heavy downpours in the coming days.
>
> Across the northern state of Uttar Pradesh, at least 24 people
died after their homes collapsed amid unrelenting rains, Relief
Commissioner Ranvir Prasad said.
>
> Mohamed Usman, 15, was on his friend's roof in the city of
Prayagraj when lightning struck Friday evening, killing him
instantly. His friend Aznan, who goes by one name, was injured
and is being treated in a hospital.
>
> “As soon as they set foot on the roof, they were hit by
lightning and my son died,” said Mohammad Ayub, Usman's father.
>
> Officials said 39 people in the state have died from lightning
in the last five days
> ...
> Col. Sanjay Srivastava, whose organization Lightning Resilient
India Campaign works with the Indian Meteorological Department,
said that deforestation, the depletion of bodies of water, and
pollution all contribute to climate change, which leads to more
lightning.
>
> Global warming has also increased the frequency of lightning,
said Sunita Narain, director general at the Center for Science
and Environment. A 1-degree-Celsius (1.8-degree-Fahrenheit) rise
in temperature increases lightning by 12 times.
>
> There has been a 34% rise in lightning strikes across India
over the past year, which has caused deaths to also jump. India
recorded 1,489 deaths due to lightning in 2016, and the number
grew to 2,869 in 2021, according to Srivastava.
--- End Quote ---
How many more signs do you need?! Emigrate now!
#Post#: 15877--------------------------------------------------
Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 28, 2022, 9:31 pm
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HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/climate-crisis-making-pacific-islands-191200167.html
--- Quote ---
> During this century, several Pacific Island nations will
become uninhabitable. For my country Tuvalu, which sits halfway
between Hawaii and Australia, this could happen in the next two
to three decades. Other Pacific Island countries on the climate
change frontline may have a few decades longer, but our final
destination is no longer a matter of guesswork.
> ...
> Tuvalu and our Pacific neighbors have done nothing to cause
climate change. Carbon emissions combined across the entirety of
the Pacific Islands amount to less than 0.03% of the world’s
total—even less if we speak of historical emissions. The
existential threat we face is not of our making. But it will
remake us.
> ...
> As the ocean rises, salt water permeates into the aquifers
that provide our drinking water. A rising ocean brings higher
tides, and with increasing storm intensity, our villages and
fields are devastated. Flooding leaves soil saline, which
reduces crop yields and weakens trees. Infrastructure such as
homes, roads, and power lines are washed away, and higher land
on which to rebuild does not exist.
> ...
> We need a global settlement that guarantees nation states such
as Tuvalu and the Marshall Islands a permanent existence beyond
the inhabitable lifetime of our atoll homes. It must recognize
and protect our cultural integrity, our human and economic
capital, and our sovereignty. It must be co-created and enacted
with the peoples and governments of Island nations, not visited
upon us by others.
>
> This settlement includes, ultimately, our relocation elsewhere
in the world where our peoples will be welcomed and celebrated.
--- End Quote ---
Tuvalu used to be under British colonial rule, therefore I would
recommend inhabitants relocate to nearby Australia.
The Marshall Islands (which, by the way, need to be renamed),
were most recently under US rule, therefore their inhabitants
should relocate to the US.
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 30, 2022, 10:41 pm
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HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/somalia-famine-to-be-declared-next-month-despite-years-of-warning-signs-153104665.html
--- Quote ---
> After four consecutive years of drought, parts of Somalia are
projected to enter a famine next month, based on new reports
about acute food insecurity in the region. Despite warning signs
from humanitarian groups for years about the dire situation
facing the East African country’s 16 million residents, experts
say, world leaders have essentially turned the other way.
>
> “There are early warning mechanisms, social protection
mechanisms [and] things that could trigger what we call
anticipatory action,” said Abby Maxman, president of Oxfam
America, a global organization that focuses on the alleviation
of global poverty. “What's most frustrating is we've been
sounding the alarm for some time, and yet the system isn't
responding timely enough. Those warnings are not being heeded.”
--- End Quote ---
This is exactly what I predicted would happen. This is why I in
turn have been warning that the prospective famine victims
themselves need to emigrate to the EU ASAP. The food will not be
moving to where you are. Your only hope is to move to where the
food is.
--- Quote ---
> About 7 million people across Somalia are expected to face
high levels of acute food insecurity from October through
December, which means they are in dire need of food assistance,
according to the latest data from the Integrated Food Security
Phase Classification (IPC), a tool for improving food security
analysis and decision making. Two million of those people have
been designated in an even higher emergency classification,
meaning they go days without food, while another 300,000 rural
residents in the Baidoa and Burhakaba districts, both in the
southern region of the country, have entered a catastrophe
designation, in which malnutrition and mortality rates remain at
alarming levels. Without immediate resources at their disposal,
many Somalians have rationed what little resources they have,
while others are going days and weeks without food and water
altogether. If these conditions remain, 1 out of every 5
children in the country faces death from malnutrition.
--- End Quote ---
If 7 million had emigrated from when I started recommending it,
this would not be happening.
--- Quote ---
> A famine is a rare and specific declaration made by the United
Nations and national governments, according to the IPC. The
designation is made when at least 20% of households are facing
an extreme lack of food, about 30% of children are suffering
from acute malnutrition, and 2 people of every 10,000 are dying
each day due to outright starvation or to the interaction of
malnutrition and disease.
>
> Leaders from many of the world’s richest and most polluting
countries have made pledges over the last decade to curb global
warming by taking "meaningful and effective actions,” but
activists say the efforts have not gone nearly far enough, and
no concrete plans have been agreed upon.
--- End Quote ---
Therefore the people affected must plan to emigrate!
--- Quote ---
> “The rich and powerful countries have a moral duty to respond,
to save lives and to take responsibility to be held accountable
for the causes that are making those at the bottom suffer
disproportionately,” Maxman told Yahoo News.
--- End Quote ---
THEY DON'T CARE. Stop pleading with them and start providing
transportation for the climate refugees themselves instead!
--- Quote ---
> This isn’t the first time Somalia has experienced famine. A
2011 famine in the country claimed the lives of 260,000 people,
more than half of them children under the age of 6. Even then,
critics warned that the famine declaration had come too late,
since more than 120,000 people had already died. Many fear a
repeat a decade later.
--- End Quote ---
So why have Somalis not learned that only emigration will save
them?
--- Quote ---
> “From Somalia to Haiti, South Sudan to Yemen, Afghanistan to
Nigeria, people’s lives in the most fragile contexts are being
devastated by a global food crisis, fueled by a deadly mix of
conflict, climate change, rising costs and economic crises,
exacerbated by COVID-19 and the Ukraine conflict,” it reads.
--- End Quote ---
Gene pools with minimal machinism heritage are the ones being
decimated! This is not a coincidence! This is Yahweh culling
non-machinist bloodlines to raise the average genetic
machinism-compatibility of humans and hence speed up the final
dash towards the Singularity!
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg103/#msg103
Continuing:
--- Quote ---
> 1 million Somalians have been forced to leave their homes in
hopes of finding safety and sustenance. Many have set out on
long journeys through dangerous terrain and conflict-ridden
communities to look for support in urban centers.
--- End Quote ---
That will not be enough. You will need to cross the
Mediterranean.
--- Quote ---
> As crops fail, it’s not lost on advocates that the G-20 group,
an intergovernmental forum made up of the world’s biggest
economies, accounts for 80% of the world's emissions, and that
the most vulnerable countries experience the harshest effects,
which trickle down to food, health and education. Thirty-three
extremely high-risk countries, including Somalia, collectively
emit only 9% of global carbon dioxide emissions.
--- End Quote ---
This is Yahweh. Western civilization is the civilization made in
the image of Yahweh.
--- Quote ---
> “With the dire situation in Somalia likely to worsen further
into 2023, as an unprecedented fifth consecutive failed rainy
season is predicted, warnings can no longer be ignored,” Parvin
Ngala, Oxfam’s regional director for the Horn, East and Central
Africa, said in a statement. “World leaders and the
international community must act now."
--- End Quote ---
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO IGNORE WARNINGS AND FAIL TO ACT.
--- Quote ---
> While political leaders have made many promises, in the
cities, towns, villages, and refugee and internal displacement
camps where millions of lives hang in the balance, far too
little has changed.
--- End Quote ---
See?
--- Quote ---
> Or as Care.org puts it, "In a world of plenty, leaving people
to starve is a policy choice.”
--- End Quote ---
The reasoning behind the policy choice is to speed up natural
selection for machinism in humans. This and Musk's repeated
calls for those from gene pools higher in machinism heritage to
increase their birth rate are two elements of the same Yahwist
operation.
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/progressive-yahwism/
#Post#: 15991--------------------------------------------------
Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 6, 2022, 6:29 pm
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HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/power-hungry-europe-leaving-developing-154100722.html
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> Power-hungry Europe is leaving developing countries starving
for electricity
--- End Quote ---
The correct response is to mass emigrate to EU countries. Since
that is where resources are disproportionately going to, why not
people also? (Soon (if not already) it will be food as well as
electricity, so refugees had better hurry.)
--- Quote ---
> Even before the war broke out, gas supplies heading to Asia
were being diverted to Europe. Now with Russia-Ukraine war
squeezing supply, the richer European nations are getting dibs
on whatever is up for grabs. With winter and a cap on Russian
fuel imports approaching, European buyers will look to stock up
on even more LNG.
>
> This is coming at the cost of not just Bangladesh, but several
developing nations. India is grappling with its worst power
crisis in 6 years while struggling to find suppliers in
international markets.
> ...
> Over a decade ago, Pakistan had forged long-term contracts
with foreign liquified natural gas (LNG) suppliers in Italy and
Qatar specifically to insulate itself from volatile prices. But
now, these firms continue to serve lucrative European markets
while defaulting on Pakistan.
--- End Quote ---
Woke sarcasm in the comments:
--- Quote ---
> Na the EU is the most perfect people on the planet. They would
never do such a thing as greedy keep everything to themselves.
--- End Quote ---
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> Yes the colonizing and plundering of all those non white
countries in the past were also to enlightened them about the
goodwill of the white western nations
--- End Quote ---
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> I’m not worried about Europeans, if they ever need more fuel
they’ll just go back to their former colonies and genocide them
again on behalf of democracy and freedom
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 16029--------------------------------------------------
Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 10, 2022, 9:04 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/heatwaves-regions-uninhabitable-within-decades-092758232.html
--- Quote ---
> Heatwaves will become so extreme in certain regions of the
world within decades that human life there will be
unsustainable, the United Nations and the Red Cross said Monday.
>
> Heatwaves are predicted to "exceed human physiological and
social limits" in the Sahel, the Horn of Africa and south and
southwest Asia, with extreme events triggering "large-scale
suffering and loss of life", the organisations said.
--- End Quote ---
Unless everyone is already out of there by the time it hits.
Which is what we are here to promote.
--- Quote ---
> Heatwave catastrophes this year in countries like Somalia and
Pakistan foreshadow a future with deadlier, more frequent, and
more intense heat-related humanitarian emergencies, they warned
in a joint report.
> ...
> "There are clear limits beyond which people exposed to extreme
heat and humidity cannot survive," the report said.
>
>
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>
> "There are also likely to be levels of extreme heat beyond
which societies may find it practically impossible to deliver
effective adaptation for all.
>
> "On current trajectories, heatwaves could meet and exceed
these physiological and social limits in the coming decades,
including in regions such as the Sahel and south and southwest
Asia."
>
> It warned that the impact of this would be "large-scale
suffering and loss of life, population movements and further
entrenched inequality."
--- End Quote ---
I have highlighted the most important part in bold.
--- Quote ---
> The report said extreme heat was a "silent killer", claiming
thousands of lives each year as the deadliest weather-related
hazard -- and the dangers were set to grow at an "alarming rate"
due to climate change.
--- End Quote ---
Why not simply say that Western civilization is a silent killer?
--- Quote ---
> According to a study cited by the report, the number of poor
people living in extreme heat conditions in urban areas will
jump by 700 percent by 2050, particularly in west Africa and
southeast Asia.
>
> "Projected future death rates from extreme heat are
staggeringly high -- comparable in magnitude by the end of the
century to all cancers or all infectious diseases -- and
staggeringly unequal," the report said.
> ...
> As the climate crisis goes unchecked, extreme weather events,
such as heatwaves and floods, are hitting the most vulnerable
people the hardest," said UN humanitarian chief Martin
Griffiths.
--- End Quote ---
Not only the most vulnerable, but those who contributed the
least to global warming.
--- Quote ---
> OCHA and the IFRC said there were limits to extreme heat
adaptation measures.
>
> Some, such as increasing energy-intensive air conditioning,
are costly, environmentally unsustainable and contribute
themselves to climate change.
--- End Quote ---
As I keep saying, problems created by Western civilization
cannot be solved by more Western civilization.
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/climate-weather-and-climate-effects-2020-and-beyond/msg14716/#msg14716
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/climate-weather-and-climate-effects-2020-and-beyond/msg14830/#msg14830
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/climate-weather-and-climate-effects-2020-and-beyond/msg14871/#msg14871
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/climate-weather-and-climate-effects-2020-and-beyond/msg14928/#msg14928
From the comments:
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> Give it time. A few decades of increasing mass death should be
convincing to a few more folks.
--- End Quote ---
Yes, but it will only convince Orban and his thugs to close the
borders even more tightly.
--- Quote ---
> Let us presume that is true, if so then there will equally be
any number of places that will also be inhabitable that are
currently too cold!
--- End Quote ---
Yes, which would make them suitable relocation destinations for
climate refugees. But they are guarded by Orban and his thugs.
--- Quote ---
> Why don't those people move to the new areas that were created
by the warming that were previously too cold to inhabit?
--- End Quote ---
Because Orban and his thugs are obstructing them from doing so.
--- Quote ---
> hasent mankind kinda like moved over time to more from one
extreme to a more less extreme for how many thousands of years?
seems like a mass migration is wise
--- End Quote ---
Yes, but to enact this wisdom first requires exterminating Orban
and his thugs.
--- Quote ---
> Poor nations will get poorer. They will immigrate to richer
nations.
--- End Quote ---
Yes, but they will only succeed if we first exterminate Orban
and his thugs.
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 17, 2022, 6:52 pm
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HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/nigeria-flooding-worsened-by-climate-change-kills-more-than-600-and-displaces-13-million-181337433.html
--- Quote ---
> At least 603 people have been killed by flooding in Nigeria,
and all but three of the 36 states in the West African nation
have been impacted, the Nigerian humanitarian affairs ministry
said on Sunday.
>
> The national government also announced that more than 1.3
million people have been displaced due to the rising waters and
a minimum of 840,000 acres of land also have been affected. The
flooding has also triggered fears of food scarcity in the
heavily agricultural nation. Nigeria’s population of 218 million
is the largest in Africa.
--- End Quote ---
Nigeria needs to get back to its pre-colonial population size:
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Historical_population_of_Nigeria.svg/800px-Historical_population_of_Nigeria.svg.png
The remainder should emigrate to the EU.
--- Quote ---
> More extreme rainfall patterns are a consequence of climate
change, as warmer temperatures cause more evaporation, making
both droughts and floods more common.
> ...
> Among those displaced by the floods are thousands of Nigerians
who were already in camps — which the flooding destroyed — for
internally displaced people, due to the regional conflict. At
least 15,000 Nigerians “are in immediate need of shelter and
food due to floods which destroyed their camps,” according to
the U.N.’s International Organization for Migration (IOM).
“Heavy rainfall and strong winds have caused serious damage to
shelters and infrastructure in camps and other sites for IDPs
since the onset of Nigeria’s rainy season in June,” an
information officer for the U.N.’s IOM said.
>
> The organization said that funding remains short and the
threats of worse impacts and prolonged famine loom.
>
> “It’s saddening,” Chiamaka Ibeanu, a nurse in Nigeria’s
Anambra state, told the Washington Post on Sunday. “All of a
sudden, people are left with no homes and turned to beggars in
weeks. No matter how rich they were, the displacement has
reduced them so much.”
--- End Quote ---
Emigrate to the EU!
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 16, 2022, 2:38 am
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HTML https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/aug/18/century-climate-crisis-migration-why-we-need-plan-great-upheaval
--- Quote ---
> A great upheaval is coming. Climate-driven movement of people
is adding to a massive migration already under way to the
world’s cities. The number of migrants has doubled globally over
the past decade, and the issue of what to do about rapidly
increasing populations of displaced people will only become
greater and more urgent. To survive climate breakdown will
require a planned and deliberate migration of a kind humanity
has never before undertaken.
>
> The world already sees twice as many days where temperatures
exceed 50C than 30 years ago – this level of heat is deadly for
humans, and also hugely problematic for buildings, roads and
power stations. It makes an area unliveable. This explosive
planetary drama demands a dynamic human response. We need to
help people to move from danger and poverty to safety and
comfort – to build a more resilient global society for
everyone’s benefit.
>
> Large populations will need to migrate, and not simply to the
nearest city, but also across continents. Those living in
regions with more tolerable conditions, especially nations in
northern latitudes, will need to accommodate millions of
migrants while themselves adapting to the demands of the climate
crisis. We will need to create entirely new cities near the
planet’s cooler poles, in land that is rapidly becoming
ice-free. Parts of Siberia, for example, are already
experiencing temperatures of 30C for months at a time.
> ...
> Wherever you live now, migration will affect you and the lives
of your children. It is predictable that Bangladesh, a country
where one-third of the population lives along a sinking,
low-lying coast, is becoming uninhabitable. (More than 13
million Bangladeshis – nearly 10% of the population – are
expected to have left the country by 2050.) But in the coming
decades wealthy nations will be severely affected, too.
> ...
> The UN International Organization for Migration has cited
estimates of as many as 1 billion environmental migrants in the
next 30 years, while more recent projections point to 1.2
billion by 2050, and 1.4 billion by 2060. After 2050, that
figure is expected to soar as the world heats further and the
global population rises to its predicted peak in the mid 2060s.
> ...
> With every degree of temperature increase, roughly 1 billion
people will be pushed outside the zone in which humans have
lived for thousands of years. We are running out of time to
manage the coming upheaval before it becomes overwhelming and
deadly.
>
> Migration is not the problem; it is the solution.
>
> How we manage this global crisis, and how humanely we treat
each other as we migrate, will be key to whether this century of
upheaval proceeds smoothly or with violent conflict and
unnecessary deaths. Managed right, this upheaval could lead to a
new global commonwealth of humanity. Migration is our way out of
this crisis.
> ...
> The idea of keeping foreign people out using borders is
relatively recent. States used to be far more concerned about
stopping people from leaving than preventing their arrival. They
needed their labour and taxes.
> ...
> In April 2021, Governor Kristi Noem tweeted: “South Dakota
won’t be taking any illegal immigrants that the Biden
administration wants to relocate. My message to illegal
immigrants … call me when you’re an American.”
>
> Consider that South Dakota only exists because thousands of
undocumented immigrants from Europe used the Homestead Act from
1860 to 1920 to steal land from Native Americans without
compensation or reparations. This kind of exclusive attitude
from a leader weakens the sense of shared citizenship among all,
creating divisions between residents who are deemed to belong
and those who are not.
> ...
> Immigration controls are regarded as essential – but for
people, not stuff. Huge effort goes into enabling the
cross-border migration of goods, services and money. Every year
more than 11bn tonnes of stuff is shipped around the world – the
equivalent of 1.5 tonnes per person a year – whereas humans, who
are key to all this economic activity, are unable to move
freely. Industrialised nations with big demographic challenges
and important labour shortages are blocked from employing
migrants who are desperate for jobs.
>
> Currently, there is no global body or organisation overseeing
the movement of people worldwide. Governments belong to the
International Organization for Migration, but this is an
independent, “related organisation” of the UN, rather than an
actual UN agency: it is not subject to the direct oversight of
the general assembly and cannot set common policy that would
enable countries to capitalise on the opportunities immigrants
offer. Migrants are usually managed by each individual nation’s
foreign ministry, rather than the labour ministry, so decisions
are made without the information or coordinated policies to
match people with job markets. We need a new mechanism to manage
global labour mobility far more effectively and efficiently – it
is our biggest economic resource, after all.
>
> The conversation about migration has become stuck on what
ought to be allowed, rather than planning for what will occur.
Nations need to move on from the idea of controlling to managing
migration. At the very least, we need new mechanisms for lawful
economic labour migration and mobility, and far better
protection for those fleeing danger.
--- End Quote ---
They have already proven they are perfectly capable of doing
this:
--- Quote ---
> Within days of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February, EU
leaders enacted an open-border policy for refugees fleeing the
conflict, giving them the right to live and work across the bloc
for three years, and helping with housing, education, transport
and other needs. The policy undoubtedly saved lives but
additionally, by not requiring millions of people to go through
protracted asylum processes, the refugees were able to disperse
to places where they could better help themselves and be helped
by local communities. Across the EU, people came together in
their communities, on social media, and through institutions to
organise ways of hosting refugees.
>
> They offered rooms in their homes, collected donations of
clothes and toys, set up language camps and mental health
support – all of which was legal because of the open-border
policy. This reduced the burden for central government, host
towns and refugees alike.
--- End Quote ---
They merely refuse to do the same for everyone else.
--- Quote ---
> Globally, this system of sealed borders and hostile migration
policy is dysfunctional. It doesn’t work for anyone’s benefit.
>
> We are witnessing the highest levels of human displacement on
record, and it will only increase. In 2020, refugees around the
world exceeded 100 million, tripling since 2010, and half were
children. This means one in every 78 people on earth has been
forced to flee. Registered refugees represent only a fraction of
those forced to leave their homes due to war or disaster.
> ...
> As long as 4.2 billion people live in poverty and the income
gap between the global north and south continues to grow, people
will have to move – and those living in climate-impacted regions
will be disproportionately affected. Nations have an obligation
to offer asylum to refugees, but under the legal definition of
the refugee, written in the 1951 Refugee Convention, this does
not include those who have to leave their home because of
climate crisis.
>
> Things are beginning to shift, though. In a landmark judgment,
in 2020, the UN Human Rights Committee ruled that climate
refugees cannot be sent home, meaning that a state would be in
breach of its human rights obligations if it returns someone to
a country where – due to the climate crisis – their life is in
danger. However, the rulings of the committee are not
internationally binding.
--- End Quote ---
There is no such thing as 'internationally binding'. There are
only actions and consequences. If there are allowed to face no
consequences for breaching obligations or ignoring rulings, they
will keep doing so. This is the same reason why there is no such
thing as 'human rights' either, and why thinking in terms of
'human rights' is part of the problem. To ensure climate
refugees reach safety, we will have to unscrupulously kill by
the millions those who want to prevent them from reaching
safety. But if you think in terms of 'human rights', you will be
unable to do this.
--- Quote ---
> Today, the 50 million climate-displaced people already
outnumber those fleeing political persecution. The distinction
between refugees and economic migrants is rarely a
straightforward one, and further complicated by the climate
crisis. While the dramatic devastation of a hurricane erasing
whole villages can make refugees of people overnight, more often
the impacts of climate breakdown on people’s lives are gradual –
another poor harvest or another season of unbearable heat, which
becomes the catalyst/crisis that pushes people to seek better
locations.
>
> This should give the world time to adapt to the mass
migrations to come – that ultimate climate adaptation. But
instead, as environments grow ever more deadly, the world’s
wealthiest countries spend more on militarising their borders –
creating a climate “wall” – than they do on the climate
emergency. The growth in offshore detention and “processing”
centres for asylum seekers not only adds to the death toll, but
is among the most repugnant features of the rich world’s failure
to ease the impact of the climate crisis on the poorest regions.
We must be alert to “climate nationalists” who want to reinforce
the unequal allocation of our planet’s safer lands.
--- End Quote ---
All countries which refuse to accept climate refugees must be
destroyed. It is that simple.
--- Quote ---
> The planetary scale crisis demands a global climate migration
pact, but in the meantime, regional free movement agreements –
of the kind EU member states enjoy – would help. Such agreements
have helped residents of disaster-hit Caribbean islands find
refuge in safer ones.
>
> Climate change is in most cases survivable; it is our border
policies that will kill people. Human movement on a scale never
before seen will dominate this century. It could be a
catastrophe or, managed well, it could be our salvation.
--- End Quote ---
Good management requires lots of WMDs and readiness to use them
to ruthlessly exterminate all who attempt to close the borders.
#Post#: 16512--------------------------------------------------
Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 18, 2022, 7:36 pm
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HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hotter-more-crowded-world-immigration-170000734.html
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> In a hotter, more crowded world, immigration is inevitable
> ...
> the nine countries with the biggest populations in 2100 will
be: India, China, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Democratic Republic of
Congo, Ethiopia, Tanzania, Indonesia, and Egypt.
>
> Even as early as 2070, though, eight of these nine countries
will have many “hot zones”—areas where mean annual temperatures
are above 29° C (84.2° F). Daily life without cooling technology
will become extremely difficult, access to water will be scarce,
and disruptions to agriculture will be severe.
> ...
> In these circumstances, migration will become inevitable, with
millions of people leaving their overheated villages and cities
in search of a kinder climate. (By 2050, according to one
estimate from the Institute for Economics and Peace, there could
be 1.2 billion climate refugees.) Just as inevitably much of
this migration will run northwards—from South and Central
America to northern North America, for instance, or from Africa
and the Middle East towards Europe.
>
> This can, in one sense, be a gift-wrapped solution for the
wealthier countries of the north, where the populations will
have grown older, and where governments will be rapidly running
out of workers to tax. Migrants can fill out the thinning ranks
of the labor force—as long as the political will to accept them
exists.
>
> Immigration policies will, as a result, creep closer and
closer to the center of all political conversation in the
developed world. In the near term, any moves to encourage
immigation will be unpopular, said Manoj Pradhan, who founded
Talking Head Macroeconomics, a research firm in London. The kind
of nativism found in Donald Trump’s America, or in the Brexit
referendum, or in other swings to the right in Europe, are ready
examples of anti-immigrant sentiment.
>
> “So we will definitely feel the ill-effects of this first,”
Pradhan said. “But even if politics is a little unstable for the
near future, I have no doubt that, in the long term, people will
begin to see immigration as the great benefit it can be.”
--- End Quote ---
Those who see immigration this way already see it this way.
Those who do not see immigration this will never switch to
seeing it this way. The latter group (numbering in the hundreds
of millions, and who are the ones who caused global warming in
the first place) must be exterminated, or else the climate
refugees (numbering in the billions, and who are not the ones
who caused global warming) will be the ones to die. There is no
way around this and no more time to waste pretending that there
is. Every dead rightist in the EU is one additional space freed
up for a climate refugee. That is the only way we should be
thinking by now.
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: guest78
Date: November 18, 2022, 8:40 pm
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--- Quote ---
> The latter group (numbering in the hundreds of millions, and
who are the ones who caused global warming in the first place)
must be exterminated, or else the climate refugees (numbering in
the billions, and who are not the ones who caused global
warming) will be the ones to die.
--- End Quote ---
This would be fair and just. However, finding enough fair and
just people to make this happen may prove difficult, as already
seems to be the case. Fair people often (falsely) have empathy
for even the unfair it seems, and I think you and I could find
thousands of examples to prove that point. Perhaps the better
argument would be that those who caused climate change should be
deported to the lands most affected by climate change, while
those who are not largely responsible for the climate crisis
should be allowed to emigrate into the lands that are least
affected by climate change? At the least, by preparing the
argument for fairness in the climate crisis this way, people
with empathy for others outside of their own group
(non-tribalists) won't have a panic attack when they hear the
word "exterminated"?
#Post#: 16642--------------------------------------------------
Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 24, 2022, 4:29 pm
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HTML https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221117-how-borders-might-change-to-cope-with-climate-migration
--- Quote ---
> As global temperatures increase, causing climate change, sea
level rise and extreme weather over the coming decades, large
parts of the world that are home to some of the biggest
populations will become increasingly hard to live in.
Coastlines, island states and major cities in the tropics will
be among the hardest hit, according to predictions by climate
scientists.
>
> Unable to adapt to increasingly extreme conditions, millions –
or even billions – of people will need to move.
>
> The most densely populated areas of the planet are clustered
around the 25-26th north parallels which has traditionally been
the latitude of most comfortable climate and fertile land. An
estimated 279 million people are packed into this thin band of
land, which cuts through countries including India, Pakistan,
Bangladesh, China, the United States and Mexico.
>
> But the conditions here are changing. On average, climate
niches – the range of conditions at which species can normally
exist – around the world are moving polewards at a pace of 1.15m
(3.8ft) per day, although it's far faster in some places.
Adapting to the changing climate will mean chasing our own
shifting niche – which for much of human history has been within
the temperature range -11C to 15C (12F to 59F) – as it migrates
north from the equator. True livability limits are the borders
we must worry about as the world warms over this century,
bringing unbearable heat, drought, floods, fires, storms, and
coastal erosion that make agriculture impossible and displace
people.
>
> Already record numbers of people are being forced to flee
their homes with each passing year. In 2021, there were 89.3
million people, double the number forcibly displayed a decade
ago, and in 2022 that number reached 100 million, with climate
disasters displacing many more people than conflicts. Floods
displaced 33 million people in Pakistan this year, while
millions more in Africa have been affected by drought and the
threat of famine, from the Horn of Africa to the continent's
west coast.
> ...
> One study from 2020 predicts that by 2070, depending on
scenarios of population growth and warming, "one to three
billion people are projected to be left outside the climate
conditions that have served humanity well over the past 6,000
years".
>
> With so many people on the move, will this mean that invented
political borders, ostensibly imposed for national security,
become increasingly meaningless? The threat posed by climate
change and its social repercussions dwarf those surrounding
national security. Heatwaves already kill more people than those
who die as a direct result of violence in wars.
> ...
> Meanwhile, most countries in the Global North are facing a
demographic crisis in which people are not having enough babies
to support an ageing population. Managed mass migration could
thus help with many of the world's biggest problems, reducing
the number of people living in poverty and climate devastation,
and helping northern economies build their workforce.
>
> But the main barrier is our system of borders – movement
restrictions either imposed by someone's own state or by the
states they wish to enter.
> ...
> Removing borders or making them far more flexible, especially
to labour flows, has the potential to improve humanity's
resilience to the stresses and shocks of global climate change.
Managed well, migration could benefit everyone.
>
> What if we thought of the planet as a global commonwealth of
humanity, in which people were free to move wherever they
wanted?
--- End Quote ---
Again, the important question is: what should be done to those
who refuse to think this way, and initiate violence to prevent
people from moving wherever they want? The answer is: the same
as what should be done to those who initiate any other type of
violence.
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