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Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 30, 2020, 3:19 am
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OLD CONTENT
I told you it was only a matter of time before this was going to
happen:
www.vice.com/en_in/article/mbmaqy/india-continues-to-be-ravaged-by-floods-and-drought-at-the-same-time
--- Quote ---
> As various reports show India approaching ‘Day Zero’ (the day
when a place’s taps dry out and people have to stand in line to
collect a daily quota of water), a top Indian expert has warned
that Indians may soon become “water refugees” who’ll migrate to
water-rich European countries. Rajendra Singh, a
Magsaysay-winning conservationist and environmentalist, and
popularly known as the “Waterman of India”, made this statement
at the recently-concluded Stockholm International Water
Institute.
> ...
> “In India, such migration is taking place from villages to
cities. However, the current water crisis may lead to such
climatic migration in the future to other countries,” he told
The Press Trust of India. In fact, in India, a March 2019 report
by the World Resources Institute has warned that the climate
change impact will be considerable because of its large
population—at 1.37 billion as of September 18—depending heavily
on environment-sensitive sectors such as agriculture. “These
factors make adaptation critical,” says the report.
--- End Quote ---
This will also occur elsewhere.
If we do not ruthlessly eliminate all the people who want to
keep borders closed, the refugee death toll we have seen up
until now will be nothing compared to what we will witness in
the future.
---
HTML https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/united-nations-human-rights-commissioner-criticises-australias-asylum-seeker-policies/ar-AAIuPhc
---
www.rt.com/usa/471887-climate-change-pentagon-interventions/
--- Quote ---
>
> Behind the dull title of “Implications of climate change for
the US Army” lies a 52-page report by a team of scientists
outlining apocalyptic scenarios: conflicts driven by hundreds of
millions of people displaced by rising sea levels; collapse of
the US power grid and transportation; and the inability of the
Army itself to provide water for its troops, to name but a few.
> ...
> The authors see climate-related disasters displacing hundreds
of millions of people around the world – giving Bangladesh as
one example vulnerable to rising sea levels, with the refugees
then triggering conflict in the already unstable and
nuclear-armed Indian Subcontinent.
>
> Such crises may require US Army intervention, from disaster
response by the Army Corps of Engineers to military operations.
However, the report warns, if the water shortages get worse – as
they are predicted to – the Army is “precipitously close to
mission failure concerning hydration of the force in a contested
arid environment.” Operations in places like Syria, Iraq or
Afghanistan over the past 27 years will no longer be possible
simply due to inability to secure enough water for the troops.
--- End Quote ---
This is why the best way is generally not to try to help at the
disaster-hit countries, but to simply let all refugees into
destination countries as they arrive by themselves.
As for people in prospective disaster countries, I strongly
suggest not waiting for the disaster to hit, but to start moving
out as soon as you have the means to do so. The more people
emigrate early, the less chaotic the final emigration rush can
be.
---
finance.yahoo.com/news/far-more-people-risk-rising-160000590.html
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> The research by Climate Central
www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-12808-z, a U.S.-based
non-profit climate science and news organisation, underscored
the scale of the upheaval projected to unfold as global warming
increasingly threatens some of the world's most
densely-populated regions.
>
> The study found that 300 million people are now living on land
that is likely to flood at least once a year on average by
mid-century without adequate sea defences, even if governments
manage to make sharp cuts in emissions.
>
> Earlier estimates had put that figure at about 80 million.
China, Bangladesh, India and Vietnam account for the bulk of the
at-risk population.
> ...
> The risks were underlined last month when the U.N.-backed
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released a landmark
report on oceans that said sea levels could rise by one metre
(3.3 ft) by 2100 -- ten times the rate in the 20th century -- if
carbon emissions keep climbing.
>
> Even if governments manage some curbs on emissions, the new
study, published in Nature Communications, said that about 237
million people spread across China, Bangladesh, India, Vietnam,
Indonesia, and Thailand are likely to face annual flooding by
mid-century, unless they establish adequate sea defences.
>
> By 2100, if emissions continue unchecked, and ice sheets
rapidly disintegrate, then land where 250 million people now
live in those six countries will fall below the waterline at
high tide -- putting almost five times more people at risk than
assessments based on previous elevation data had found.
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Migration must be made as easy as possible for as many people as
possible as soon as possible. The worst scenario would be if the
greatest need to migrate from disaster-hit countries coincides
in timing with policies most hostile to immigrants in
destination countries. With Salvini etc. around, this scenario
is highly possible.
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Nydia Velasquez means well:
velazquez.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/vel-zquez-introduces-historic-bill-protect-environmental-migrants
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> Washington, DC – Rep. Nydia M. Velázquez (D-NY) has introduced
H.R. 4732, the Climate Displaced Person’s Act of 2019,
first-of-its-kind legislation aimed at addressing the growing
effect of climate change on human migration.
>
> Importantly, the bill would create formal protections for
climate-displaced persons (CDPs). CDPs are individuals who have
been forcibly displaced by climate change or climate-induced
disruptions, such as sea-level rise, glacial outburst floods,
desertification or fires. According to studies by the
International Organization for Migration (IOM), there could be
as many as 200 million CDPs by 2050 globally. In fact, these
predictions could easily be exceeded with the intensification of
political instability and armed conflict resulting from climate
drivers.
>
> In response, Velázquez's legislation would create a
humanitarian program separate from the U.S. refugee admissions
program. The new program would admit a minimum of 50,000 CDPs,
beginning with Fiscal Year 2020, allowing CDPs to access
resettlement opportunities. The President would be granted
authority to further promote resilience among communities facing
the impacts of climate change as well as directed to collect and
maintain data on displacement caused by climate change.
>
> “Despite this Administration’s efforts to strip the world’s
most vulnerable populations of refuge, America will continue to
stand tall as a safe haven for immigrants,” said Velázquez.
“This legislation will not only reaffirm our nation’s
longstanding role as a home to those fleeing conflict and
disasters, but it will also update it to reflect changes to our
world brought on by a changing climate.”
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50000/year is orders of magnitude too low, however. Going by the
above estimate of 300 million climate refugees, it would take
6000 years to admit them all! Even if the US accepts only 25% of
all climate refugees (as US GDP is ~25% of world GDP), that
would take 1500 years, which is ludicrous. Do people these days
even bother to number-crunch anymore?
---
Rightists are mad that leftists are bringing up climate
refugees, instead of opting to address more "popular"
environmental issues.
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I had once heard that the US Pentagon had contemplated worst
case scenarios were the US would have to use tactical nuclear
weapons on climate refugees. Cannot remember where I heard that
though, nor have I found any information on it since?
---
Julian Castro on board:
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/4/20849369/julian-castro-climate-refugee
Democratic presidential candidate Julián Castro’s climate plan,
released Tuesday, calls for the US to create a new category of
refugees to
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> welcome people displaced by the warming planet.
>
> The US only accepts refugees who have been targeted based on
their race, religion, nationality, politics or affiliation with
certain social groups. As climate change threatens everything
from crop production to coastal cities, tens of millions of
migrants are expected to be pushed out of areas that will no
longer be habitable in the coming decades.
>
> The World Bank estimates more than 140 million migrants will
be displaced as a result of climate change by 2050. Castro’s
plan is meant to address that growing crisis. But other experts
worry it will come at a cost for people who are fleeing
persecution in their home countries.
>
> Migrants displaced by climate change have no formal rights in
the US and internationally. While 164 countries signed a United
Nations agreement in 2018 to work together to resettle those
migrants, the pact is not legally enforceable and depends on
voluntary participation.
>
> The US and its international partners, however, are running
out of time to determine how they will support such migrants.
Glaciers are melting and sea levels are rising, flooding
low-level coastal areas where migrants have already started to
flee. Increasing global temperatures have led to the
desertification of farmland just as growing populations demand
higher food production, making the terrain unlivable. Droughts
cause local conflict over control of water resources and are the
biggest killer among weather-related catastrophes, according to
the UN.
>
> Castro’s plan acknowledges that the existing criteria for
refugees in the US may cover some migrants who have been
persecuted in “climate-driven conflicts,” but ultimately, he
says it’s not enough. The US must be proactive and “cannot wait
for climate change to destabilize a society before providing
assistance,” he writes.
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The US is also militarily powerful enough to pressure most other
countries to accept climate refugees by threatening WMD strikes
on all which refuse. This must also be an American duty in face
of the looming crisis. The US will not be able to take all the
refugees by itself, nor should it take refugees who would rather
go elsewhere but who are turned away, as this would only further
encourage other countries to keep turning refugees away in the
knowledge that someone else will take them all. Instead, the
American duty is to ensure each country either takes in all who
turn up at their borders, or simply be destroyed.
---
Big win:
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/20/climate-refugees-cant-be-returned-home-says-landmark-un-human-rights-ruling
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> It is unlawful for governments to return people to countries
where their lives might be threatened by the climate crisis, a
landmark ruling by the United Nations human rights committee has
found.
>
> The judgment – which is the first of its kind – represents a
legal “tipping point” and a moment that “opens the doorway” to
future protection claims for people whose lives and wellbeing
have been threatened due to global heating, experts say.
>
> Tens of millions of people are expected to be displaced by
global heating in the next decade.
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Except of course UN rulings do not enforce themselves:
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> While the judgment is not formally binding on countries, it
points to legal obligations that countries have under
international law.
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Ultimately, what will decide the issue is whether or not the
major military powers of the world are willing to use WMDs on
countries that deport refugees.
---
www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/un-food-agency-chief-world-on-brink-of-a-hunger-pandemic/ar-BB132fh9
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> UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The head of the U.N. food agency warned
Tuesday that, as the world is dealing with the coronavirus
pandemic, it is also “on the brink of a hunger pandemic” that
could lead to “multiple famines of biblical proportions” within
a few months if immediate action isn’t taken.
>
> World Food Program Executive Director David Beasley told the
U.N. Security Council that even before COVID-19 became an issue,
he was telling world leaders that “2020 would be facing the
worst humanitarian crisis since World War II.” That’s because of
wars in Syria, Yemen and elsewhere, locust swarms in Africa,
frequent natural disasters and economic crises including in
Lebanon, Congo, Sudan and Ethiopia, he said.
>
> Beasley said today 821 million people go to bed hungry every
night all over the world, a further 135 million people are
facing “crisis levels of hunger or worse,” and a new World Food
Program analysis shows that as a result of COVID-19 an
additional 130 million people “could be pushed to the brink of
starvation by the end of 2020.”
>
> He said in the video briefing that WFP is providing food to
nearly 100 million people on any given day, including “about 30
million people who literally depend on us to stay alive.”
>
> Beasley, who is recovering from COVID-19, said if those 30
million people can’t be reached, “our analysis shows that
300,000 people could starve to death every single day over a
three-month period” — and that doesn’t include increased
starvation due to the coronavirus.
>
> “In a worst-case scenario, we could be looking at famine in
about three dozen countries, and in fact, in 10 of these
countries we already have more than one million people per
country who are on the verge of starvation,” he said.
>
> According to WFP, the 10 countries with the worst food crises
in 2019 were Yemen, Congo, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Ethiopia,
South Sudan, Syria, Sudan, Nigeria and Haiti.
--- End Quote ---
The borders have to be back open before this hits. This is why I
keep saying that the idea of using WMDs against states which
close their borders to refugees must be taken seriously. The
numbers who could die from starvation if denied entry dwarfs the
numbers of likely WMD deaths (to say nothing of the latter being
more deserved than the former).
---
www.newscientist.com/article/2242855-climate-change-has-already-made-parts-of-the-world-too-hot-for-humans/#ixzz6LyKOeunU
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> Global warming has already made parts of the world hotter than
the human body can withstand, decades earlier than climate
models expected this to happen.
>
> Jacobabad in Pakistan and Ras al Khaimah in the United Arab
Emirates have both repeatedly crossed a deadly threshold for one
or two hours at a time, an analysis of weather station data
found.
>
> Wet bulb temperature (TW) is a measure of heat and humidity,
taken from a thermometer covered in a water-soaked cloth. Beyond
a threshold of 35°C TW the body is unable to cool itself by
sweating, but lower levels can still be deadly, as was seen in
the 2003 European heatwave that killed thousands without passing
28°C TW.
>
> A US-UK team analysed weather station data across the world,
and found that the frequency of wet bulb temperatures exceeding
temperatures between 27°C TW and 35°C TW had all doubled since
1979. Though 35°C TW is thought of as a key threshold, harm and
even death is possible at lower temperatures, so the team
included these in their analysis.
--- End Quote ---
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> Billions of people could live in areas too hot for humans by
2070, study says
> Hong Kong (CNN)If the planet continues to warm at current
levels over the next 50 years, up to 3 billion people could be
living in areas that are too hot for humans, a new study has
found.
> For thousands of years, humans have lived within a narrow
"climate niche" where average temperatures are ideal for society
to flourish, and conditions favorable to grow food and keep
livestock.
> In findings published in the Proceedings of the National
Academy of Sciences on Monday, an international team of
archaeologists, climate scientists and ecologists said that if
heat-trapping greenhouse gas emissions continue at the current
pace, by 2070 billions of people will be living in conditions
hotter than those that have allowed life to thrive for the past
6,000 years.
--- End Quote ---
www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/world/global-warming-climate-niche-temperatures-intl-hnk/index.html
nationalpost.com/news/world/swathes-of-middle-east-and-north-africa-will-be-too-hot-for-humans-as-early-as-the-2040s-study
Good thing Judeo-Westerners put in all that effort helping Jews
colonize Palestine, a land in which perhaps no one can live on
with in 40 to 50 years.... Brilliant!!!
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 30, 2020, 3:23 am
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Good to see this issue back in the news:
HTML https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/23/magazine/climate-migration.html
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> As their land fails them, hundreds of millions of people from
Central America to Sudan to the Mekong Delta will be forced to
choose between flight or death. The result will almost certainly
be the greatest wave of global migration the world has seen.
>
> For most of human history, people have lived within a
surprisingly narrow range of temperatures, in the places where
the climate supported abundant food production. But as the
planet warms, that band is suddenly shifting north. According to
a pathbreaking recent study in the journal Proceedings of the
National Academy of Sciences, the planet could see a greater
temperature increase in the next 50 years than it did in the
last 6,000 years combined. By 2070, the kind of extremely hot
zones, like in the Sahara, that now cover less than 1 percent of
the earth’s land surface could cover nearly a fifth of the land,
potentially placing one of every three people alive outside the
climate niche where humans have thrived for thousands of years.
Many will dig in, suffering through heat, hunger and political
chaos, but others will be forced to move on. A 2017 study in
Science Advances found that by 2100, temperatures could rise to
the point that just going outside for a few hours in some
places, including parts of India and Eastern China, “will result
in death even for the fittest of humans.”
> ...
> People are already beginning to flee. In Southeast Asia, where
increasingly unpredictable monsoon rainfall and drought have
made farming more difficult, the World Bank points to more than
eight million people who have moved toward the Middle East,
Europe and North America. In the African Sahel, millions of
rural people have been streaming toward the coasts and the
cities amid drought and widespread crop failures. Should the
flight away from hot climates reach the scale that current
research suggests is likely, it will amount to a vast remapping
of the world’s populations.
--- End Quote ---
The time to start migrating is now in order to avoid the final
rush.
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: guest5
Date: October 10, 2020, 7:06 pm
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Climate-Related Events Could Force Millions to Migrate in Next
50 Years
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> climate change could force millions of people to migrate in
the next 50 years.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=659wt5Rxrj0
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> violetcloud009
> 3 hours ago
> Imagine the hardships our children and grandchildren have to
face because of our insensitivity today. Let’s act now, however
small the action might be.
>
> Veronica Page Laflin
> 3 hours ago
> The South Americans who's everything's on fire moved North
only to get put in cages
>
> Damireddy sisters
> 6 hours ago
> This is a really important matter
> Everyone shall know about this
>
> SouthAsian Report
> 4 hours ago
> The world will reshape for sure. And the villain of this
reshape is Two leggie Human kind.
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 24, 2021, 7:06 pm
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Climate refugees: The quest for a haven from extreme weather
events
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> People who are driven from their homes by wildfires, floods
and hurricanes are seeking areas less ravaged by our worsening
climate and rising sea levels. Correspondent David Pogue
examines how those with the means are relocating to "climate
haven cities," and visits one city whose mayor boosts its lack
of hurricanes and wildfires.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SByFy9R6320
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 25, 2021, 10:30 pm
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Climate ravages: Sea swallows parts of Senegal's UNESCO World
Heritage site
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> About 30 world leaders are participating in the 2021 One
Climate Summit online, discussing critical issues pertaining to
the environment. One place under threat from rising sea levels
is the city of Saint Louis in Senegal. France and the World Bank
have donated more than $40m to help people living in the UNESCO
World heritage site cope as their city is eroded by the rising
tides.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmHzJCvbuQE
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Re: Climate Refugees
DIR By: rp
Date: April 18, 2021, 11:50 pm
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Kamala Harris on water wars:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHlxxfwne0k
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Water_withdrawals_per_capita%2C_OWID.svg/1200px-Water_withdrawals_per_capita%2C_OWID.svg.png
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 25, 2021, 1:34 am
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Hope on the horizon?
HTML https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/22/ap-biden-mulling-offering-asylum-other-legal-protections-climate-migrants/
--- Quote ---
> President Biden issued an executive order on February 4
ordering national security adviser Jake Sullivan to produce a
report by August 3 on “Planning for the Impact of Climate Change
on Migration,” including options for protecting and resettling
climate change-displaced persons.
> ...
> Specifically, the legislation would create a U.S. resettlement
pathway for people displaced by climate change,” among other
things.
>
> “We have a greater chance now than ever before to get this
done,” Markey told AP, citing the president’s climate diplomacy
and awareness of the problem.
>
> The World Meteorological Organization released a report Monday
claiming that climate change has displaced an average of 23
million people annually since 2010 and nearly 10 million
recorded in the first half of 2020 alone, especially in Asia and
East Africa.
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 7, 2021, 2:03 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvaI9nxSKAw
All climate refugees must be accepted into whichever country
they choose to go to. All who try to prevent climate refugees
from being accepted must be physically eliminated:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/
All who support climate refugees being accepted, together with
the climate refugees themselves, must be better armed than those
trying to stop them:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/firearms/
It is that simple.
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 8, 2021, 11:33 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-climate-migrants-cross-borders-125013801.html
--- Quote ---
> As more climate migrants cross borders seeking refuge, laws
will need to adapt
>
> Climate change is upending people’s lives around the world,
but when droughts, floods or sea level rise force them to leave
their countries, people often find closed borders and little
assistance.
>
> Part of the problem is that today’s laws, regulations and
international agreements about migrants, asylum-seekers and
refugees offer few, if any, special protection to those forced
to leave because of climate conditions.
>
> National laws focus primarily on violence and conflict as
drivers of forced migration and rarely consider environmental
stress. In fact, no nation’s immigration system currently has
environmental criteria for admission. International agreements
such as the Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular
Migration and the Global Compact for Refugees mention the
impacts of natural disasters and environmental degradation, but
they are not legally binding.
>
> The Biden administration has started exploring ways to
identify and assist people who are displaced by climate change.
But climate-driven migration is complicated.
>
> Often, the environmental stressors associated with climate
change are only one factor pushing people to migrate. For
example, many migrants from Guatemala trying to enter the U.S.
have struggled under severe droughts or storms, but many also
fear crime and violence if they move to cities in their homeland
to find work. Others are seeking opportunities that they and
their children don’t have.
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Of course everyone is being braindead here. Climate change
itself is a form of violence! Those who experience it never
consented to it! Western civilization went ahead with the
Industrial Revolution without regard for anyone's consent! So in
actuality, current refugee laws require accepting all climate
refugees because they are all fleeing the violence of the
Industrial Revolution!
--- Quote ---
> As experts in migration and climate risk, we have been
studying how climate change is displacing people within their
own countries and often pushing them to cross borders. Here are
some of the key challenges the Biden administration faces and
reasons this effort can’t wait.
>
> How many climate migrants are there?
>
> No one knows exactly how many climate migrants exist now or
how many people will become climate migrants in the future, but
current estimates are high.
>
> In the coming years, the rapid pace of climate change combined
with a global population nearing 8 billion people is likely to
create unprecedented stress around the world. Recent studies
show that dry spells and drought are already associated with
increased migration.
>
> As that stress intensifies, the need to escape hazards and
threats is replacing the desire to seek opportunity as the key
driver of international migration.
>
> Disasters caused more than 23 million people a year to
relocate over the past decade, the majority of them within their
own countries, according to the World Meteorological
Organization’s State of the Global Climate Report. The
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicts that this
will increase as global warming intensifies. The World Bank
projects that climate change will drive 143 million people in
Latin America, Africa and South Asia alone to leave their homes
by 2050. Many come from poor regions that have contributed
little to global warming.
>
> Legal definitions of ‘refugee’ are narrow
>
> Until recently, scholars identified wars and conflict as
principal sources of displacement.
>
> Starting in the 1980s, some scholars began using the term
“environmental refugee” for those forced to leave their homes
because of disruptions related to human or naturally produced
environmental events, such as desertification, deforestation,
land degradation and rising sea levels.
>
> But the international definition of refugee doesn’t include
climate change.
>
> The U.N.’s 1951 Refugee Convention establishes the obligations
and responsibilities its member nations have to refugees. It
defines refugees as people who are forced to flee their
homelands because of fear of persecution based on race,
religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group
or political opinion.
>
> In contrast, international law does not clearly define
migrants or climate migrants. Thus, all migrants are subject to
the immigration laws of their destination countries. Since these
immigration laws also lack environmental criteria for accepting
migrants, climate migrants often have nowhere to go.
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Ridiculous! Global warming is known to hit the tropical regions
hardest. It is also common knowledge habitat temperature exerts
selective pressure:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/temperature-effects/
Therefore tropical people can be considered a race! Therefore
climate refugees are indeed persecuted based on race! (Note: the
Industrial Revolution was not introduced by tropical people.)
--- Quote ---
> Changing views of climate migration
>
> While climate migrants are not legally considered refugees,
many are highly vulnerable.
>
> Lacking resources, climate migrants are likely to be poorer
than most other international migrants. This may put them at a
disadvantage as more countries’ policies scrutinize the economic
prospects of immigrants before permitting them entry.
>
> Yet climate migrants do not fit cleanly into categories of
those who migrate voluntarily and those who are displaced by
factors beyond their control.
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Nonsense. See above.
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> Take the case of Ioane Teitiota, a man from the island nation
of Kiribati who sought refugee status in New Zealand in 2013. He
was ultimately deported on the grounds that his life wasn’t in
immediate danger in his homeland. But while Kiribati isn’t
underwater yet, it is under stress as habitable land becomes
more scarce and water supplies become contaminated by saltwater.
>
> The U.N. Human Rights Commission rejected Teitiota’s appeal in
2020, but it also warned that governments could be in violation
of U.N. agreements if they send people back to situations where
climate change has created life-threatening risks.
>
> Rethinking the role of disasters
>
> Climate change and other environmental stresses have
increasingly become drivers of displacement, but in ways that do
not fit neatly within the bright dichotomy that law and policy
use to distinguish between refugees and other people on the
move.
>
> We believe it’s time for countries worldwide to rethink the
role of disasters and climate change in migration, recognize the
rights of those displaced by environmental causes and reform
international and national laws and policies, which are out of
date with what’s known today about climate change and
displacement. Nations may be reluctant to offer what may seem
like a new portal for migrants, but evidence suggests those
numbers will only rise, and countries need to be prepared.
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Yes. But on top of that, what is really needed is willingness
for countries which accept refugees to militarily retaliate
against countries which do not. Ignoring climate refugees for a
moment and looking at refugees that are already officially
recognized, it remains the case that many are rejected every
day. In other words, official recognition does not guarantee
acceptance. And the countries which reject refugees face no
devastating consequences and hence have no incentive to improve
their behaviour. As such, merely changing the definition of
"refugee" to include climate refugees will mean nothing:
countries which reject refugees will just continue to do so
secure in the knowledge that they will face no devastating
consequences. The only way to guarantee that all climate
refugees are accepted is for every country to know that not
accepting refugees guarantees that country will be nuked. There
is nothing hyperbolic about this.
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Re: Climate refugees
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 7, 2021, 1:04 am
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HTML https://unherd.com/2021/07/the-walls-are-going-up-across-europe/
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> The walls are going up across Europe
>
> The EU is preparing for a militarised war on immigration
> ...
> the Europe of 2021 is not the Europe of 2015, and Europe’s
leaders have no appetite for a return of the political turmoil
that followed Merkel’s experiment with open borders. Distracted
by Brexit and imported American culture wars, Britain’s
remaining pro-EU contingent have neglected to follow the
developing consensus on the continent, where the hard line on
migration for which Viktor Orbán was lambasted by liberal
commentators back in 2015 has now entered the political
mainstream.
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Which is exactly what I warned would happen unless WMDs were
dropped on Hungary.
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> When asked whether Germany had a duty to open the country’s
doors to Afghan migration, even Merkel herself recently
responded that “we cannot solve all of these problems by taking
everyone in”.
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I told you Merkel was a coward.
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> The Austrian government has decisively swung towards the
Central European approach of hardened borders and expedited
returns to countries of origin, with Kurz stressing that he
would not halt deportations to Afghanistan, as Sweden and
Finland already have, a reflection of a public mood darkened by
recent high-profile crimes carried out by Afghan asylum seekers.
Like centre-left Denmark, which is accelerating both its return
of refugees to Syria and the search, apparently along with the
UK, of third-party countries in Africa willing to host refugees
and migrants on its behalf, the new mood in Austria is not the
result of the populist Right coming to power, but instead of
centrist parties adopting solutions that were in 2015 considered
the sole preserve of the radical Right.
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And why did this happen? Because everyone saw that there were no
WMD-level consequences for Denmark's behaviour. Whatever is not
punished will spread.
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> As in Spain, where the next government is likely to be a
coalition between the centre-right PP and the radical right Vox,
in Italy a coalition government between the centre-Right and the
far-Right looms in the wings. Indeed, Salvini’s Lega is now so
outflanked on its Right by the rising power of Georgia Meloni’s
post-fascist Brothers of Italy party, the most popular political
party in the country, that it can be considered centre-Right
itself, so far has the country’s Overton Window shifted. In
France, where Macron has angrily rejected an imported American
racial culture war in favour of the country’s homegrown culture
war over Islam and the possibility of civil war, the soi-disant
liberal saviour from the perceived populist menace has moved so
far to the Right that the roughly even chances of a Le Pen
victory in the forthcoming presidential election seem almost
irrelevant in defining the country’s political trajectory.
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I predicted all of this. If you are too squeamish to use a few
WMDs at an early stage, this is what you get.
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> Perhaps it is Greece that highlights best not just the
shifting mood in Europe’s external border states, but the
shifting mood in Brussels itself. When Erdogan opened Turkey’s
land borders with Greece in spring last year, bussing migrants
to the border fences in a confrontation that came uncomfortably
close to war, Greece’s militarised response unexpectedly won
applause rather than censure from the EU hierarchy, as well as
the swift dispatch of both Frontex border guards and funds to
build an impassable border wall, now being beefed up with EU
surveillance zeppelins and drones. Rather than a rerun of the
2015 migrant crisis, when Europe functioned as a ready source of
monetary tribute to an embattled Erdogan, last year’s Evros
crisis functioned as a dry run for the coming Afghan wave.
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Again, this is what happens when no WMDs are dropped on Greece.
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> Once again, the exact same fortification project Orbán was
condemned for in 2015 was hurriedly paid for by the EU in 2020,
and presented as a heartening symbol of EU solidarity by 2021.
From the Baltic to the Aegean, walls are going up across the
eastern marches of the European continent, which will soon
define the bloc against the huddling masses straining to get in.
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So now, it will be innocent refugees dying instead of those who
deserve to die.
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> Meanwhile, Europe’s only interest in Libya is which faction
can most effectively police migrants, just as its only interest
in Tunisia’s ongoing coup will be the maintenance of this
summer’s border policing deal.
> ...
> it is difficult to think, given the steady rightward drift of
European politics, that an Open Borders attitude will win out
against the simpler solution of a hands-on European effort to
prevent migrants entering the EU.
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Only the threat of American WMDs can turn it around now.
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> The expansion of the EU’s Frontex border agency into a 10,000
strong armed rapid deployment force indicates the direction of
travel. Indeed, we are already seeing early manifestations of
this approach, both in the pushbacks of migrants in the Aegean
by the Greek coastguard with Frontex support, and in the growing
legal restrictions on the activity of Western European NGO boats
blamed for accelerating the migrant flow. Both were placed with
the quiet acquiescence of Brussels, despite the protests of
Northern European Green parties.
>
> All this is, of course, a dry run for the almost certainly
militarised and exclusionary border policing efforts that will
grapple with the vast population movements from Africa and South
Asia that will attend the coming decades of climate change.
Already, Bangladeshis are the largest single national group
making the dangerous crossing from North Africa, and it is not
difficult to see a desertifying Sahel or collapsing Lebanon
adding new sudden crises for European leaders torn between their
desire to maintain allegiance to postwar liberal ideals on
asylum and the increasing desire of their voting publics to
reject them. The avowedly open, cosmopolitan Europe of the 1990s
and 2000s is already dead, and even the lame duck Merkel and her
ailing CDU party have abandoned the Wir schaffen das attitude of
2015 in the face of the coming wave.
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So, will the US tell the EU to either accept all refugees who
arrive, or be nuked? Does America understand that this is the
true destined mission of its nuclear arsenal?
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> The walls are going up across Europe: we will not see them
coming down again in our lifetimes.
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Unless they are bombed down by a woke America.
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