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#Post#: 8747--------------------------------------------------
Re: Israel
DIR By: guest30
Date: September 12, 2021, 9:18 am
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@Dazhbog
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> [quote]However, Israel is not the only country in the Middle
East to host US military bases; there are American facilities in
Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia (mostly withdrawn from in
2003), Oman, and the Persian Gulf states of Kuwait, Bahrain
(headquarters of the United States Fifth Fleet), Qatar, and the
United Arab Emirates. The Bahrain headquarters of the United
States Fifth Fleet is meant to act as a watchdog and deterrent
to potential Iranian aggression in the Persian Gulf region.
--- End Quote ---
In other words, America doesn't benefit from their cooperation
with Israel any more than from their cooperation with other
countries (including anti-Israel ones like Turkey).[/quote]
In other words, United States still want to cooperate and work
together with Israel, even Joe Biden, president from Democrat
party which you all embrace for it's (the party) more good
anti-racist policy is saying that he supporting Israel on his
speech during 1980s, see this speech video, whether United
States or Western European nations's leader are from party which
aligned to left wing political spectrum, or their people are
supporting nation's leftist policies, their foreign policies on
oppressing the rest of the world and assisting Israel keep
continue, this is why I not yet believe the "Aryanist" people on
viewing the Anglophile and Western European nations can be a
good nation:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Nrv5izaTs
--- Quote ---
> [quote]Russia's Gross Domestic Product (GDP) economy not
sufficient enough to build their massive military power if
Russia assist Israel to war against their enemies
--- End Quote ---
Russia's weak economy doesn't change the fact that they have one
of the world's largest stockpiles of WMDs, as well as a well
oiled military industrial complex.[/quote]
I don't concern on that, Russia is not harming my nation and
have good reputation on my people, and Russia also supporting
the enemies of Israel even tough they still cooperate with
Israel, and they not did anything harmful and oppressive to the
rest of the world, no every single world politicans will
attracted to your suggestion of ridiculous anti-Russia policy,
against Russia and other European nations just because they
reluctantly accept refugees, huh, such suggestion and political
proposal did not benefitting us, and on their attitude of
reluctantly accept refugees is not harming us, this is not a
child game, political world need considering what the benefit
and the consequences of the a policy, if a nation did something
bad to their people or people who wanted to be it's citizens, as
long as they the nation not harming and oppressing other nation,
let them be like that, that is their domestic affairs and we no
need to bother on them, indeed that nation have bad attitude,
but don't be like a child who blindly act like superhero,
destroying someone or some group of people only because they do
small things of bad attitude which actually can be solved with
more productive solution, this is the reason why I not really
want to against Russia, they... not... oppress... us...
--- Quote ---
> [quote]Anglo and Western European nations who want to harm
Russia more than Israel, even I talk about how they, not Israel,
try everything to harm Russia
--- End Quote ---
So you admit that Israel isn't anti-Russian. [/quote]
Israel try to against Russia through lobbying and persuading the
nations which already work together with Israel for a long time
that is United States and Western European nations to follow
Israel's interest, this is not a new thing if you see history of
foreign policy of United States and Western European nations,
and if Israel isn't anti-Russian like what you said, then what
are the benefits to me? what I want is make my nation free from
Western European oppression, destroying Israel is not my primary
priority, because it not really benefit my people
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> Suharto work secretly with Israel
>
> I praised Suharto for his anti-colonialist and anti-communist
effort. I never said that he was particularly anti-Israel.
--- End Quote ---
Then you really hurt my people's feeling, and also feeling of
the founder of Nusantara, the devout socialist Sukarno, you are
not really have sympathy to Nusantara and my people, you are
capitalist and Eternal Anglo supporter
#Post#: 8750--------------------------------------------------
Re: Israel
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 12, 2021, 10:17 pm
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"even Joe Biden, president from Democrat party which you all
embrace"
We have an entire topic for bashing Biden:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/linda-sarsour-disavowed-by-biden-camp/
Our strategy is to get One-State Solution advocates such as
Tlaib to take over Blue politics. We have made this very clear.
For you to claim we [i]support Biden[/i](!) is the worst
strawman I have seen for a long time.
"destroying Israel is not my primary priority, because it not
really benefit my people"
This is the fundamental difference between us. You do whatever
benefits your own tribe. Therefore you can be herded by whomever
offers benefit to your tribe. We will do whatever it takes to
destroy our enemies, whether or not destroying them benefits
ourselves. Therefore we cannot be herded by our enemies.
"don't be like a child who blindly act like superhero,
destroying someone or some group of people only because they do
small things of bad attitude which actually can be solved with
more productive solution"
“Except you be converted, and become as little children, you
shall not enter into the Kingdom.” - Jesus
#Post#: 8752--------------------------------------------------
Re: Israel
DIR By: guest30
Date: September 12, 2021, 11:22 pm
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@90sRetroFan
--- Quote ---
>
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/linda-sarsour-disavowed-by-biden-camp/
>
> Our strategy is to get One-State Solution advocates such as
Tlaib to take over Blue politics. We have made this very clear.
For you to claim we support Biden(!) is the worst strawman I
have seen for a long time.
--- End Quote ---
It means that your promise that United States will turning
against Israel when it's government turn "blue" politically
through "demographic blueshift" is a nonsense, Joe Biden is a
president from blue political spectrum, and every president of
United States from "blue" political spectrum like Franklin
Delano Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, Jimmy
Carter, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama always keep oppressing
the world, not just helping Israel, Putin are leader of Russia
who politically on right wing conservative political spectrum,
and he never make Russia oppressing other nation, so, how can we
trust your political worldview?
And the strange thing is, in my nation most of people which
their party are aligned with left wing political worldview like
Tsamara Amany Alatas are more supporting the Anglophile nation
like today "blue United States" rather than Fadli Zon for
example who are supporting Russia, of course I prefer the latter
rather than the former, United States and Western European
liberalism and capitalistic economic system destroy our nation
and make some of my people betray us, just admit that you are
pro Western European nations (NATO) propagandist who trying to
influence us to follow your political bloc, so, some of
Aleksandr Dugin's saying was right
#Post#: 8754--------------------------------------------------
Re: Israel
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 13, 2021, 12:04 am
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"every president of United States from "blue" political spectrum
like Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Lyndon B.
Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama always
keep oppressing the world"
Thank you for straight-up omitting JFK. As for Johnson, Carter,
etc.:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Resistance
--- Quote ---
> In 1963, under the Kennedy Administration, the United States
voluntarily placed an arms embargo on South Africa in
cooperation with the United Nations Security Council Resolution
181.[16] After President Kennedy's assassination and under
Lyndon B. Johnson, the United States policy towards South Africa
was greatly impacted by the Civil Rights Movement taking place
at home. In regards to the African struggles in Africa,
President Johnson shared that:
>
> The foreign policy of the United States is rooted in its life
at home. We will not permit human rights to be restricted in our
own country. And we will not support policies abroad which are
based on the rule of minorities or the discredited notion that
men are unequal before the law. We will not live by a double
standard—professing abroad what we do not practice at home, or
venerating at home what we ignore abroad.[17]
> ...
> President Jimmy Carter is known for its confrontational
strategy against apartheid and white rule in South Africa.[22]
> ...
> Throughout the Johnson, Nixon, Ford, and Carter
administrations, the United States anti-apartheid movement as
well as divestment from South Africa campaigns increasingly
gained support from the American public. The growth of the
anti-apartheid movement as well as the divestment campaign lead
to increased pressure on the U.S. government to take action
against apartheid policy in South Africa.
--- End Quote ---
It was under Clinton that Apartheid South Africa was finally
toppled.
Additionally, Clinton heroically bombed Serbia:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/remembering-the-yugoslav-wars/
setting a precedent for what we want the US to eventually do to
Israel/V4/Denmark/Greece/Austria/Serbia again/etc..
Meanwhile:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Serbia_relations#Socialist_Yugoslavia_and_USSR
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> Russia condemned NATO at the United Nations and supported the
statement that NATO air strikes on Serbia were an illegal
military action.[56] Volunteers and mercenaries from Russia were
cited to have gone to Kosovo in large numbers to fight the KLA,
and to resist and complicate NATO operations.[57]
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Serbia_relations#Criticism_of_1999_NATO_bombing
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> Israel refused to support the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia,
leading to admonishment from the United States.[37] Ariel Sharon
criticised NATO's bombing as an act of "brutal interventionism".
> ...
> During the crisis, Elyakim Haetzni said the Serbs should be
the first to receive Israeli aid. "There are our traditional
friends," he told Israel Radio."[39] It was suggested that
Sharon may have supported the Yugoslav position because of the
Serbian population's history of saving Jews during the
Holocaust.[40] On Sharon's death, Serbian minister Aleksandar
Vulin stated: The Serbian people will remember Sharon for
opposing the 1999 NATO bombing campaign against the former
Yugoslavia and advocating respect for sovereignty of other
nations and a policy of not interfering with their internal
affairs.[41]
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 8759--------------------------------------------------
Re: Israel
DIR By: guest30
Date: September 13, 2021, 11:26 am
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@90sRetroFan, Pro-Anglophile and Warmonger
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> "every president of United States from "blue" political
spectrum like Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Lyndon
B. Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama always
keep oppressing the world"
>
> Thank you for straight-up omitting JFK. As for Johnson,
Carter, etc.:
>
>
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Resistance
>
> [quote]In 1963, under the Kennedy Administration, the United
States voluntarily placed an arms embargo on South Africa in
cooperation with the United Nations Security Council Resolution
181.[16] After President Kennedy's assassination and under
Lyndon B. Johnson, the United States policy towards South Africa
was greatly impacted by the Civil Rights Movement taking place
at home. In regards to the African struggles in Africa,
President Johnson shared that:
>
> The foreign policy of the United States is rooted in its life
at home. We will not permit human rights to be restricted in our
own country. And we will not support policies abroad which are
based on the rule of minorities or the discredited notion that
men are unequal before the law. We will not live by a double
standard—professing abroad what we do not practice at home, or
venerating at home what we ignore abroad.[17]
> ...
> President Jimmy Carter is known for its confrontational
strategy against apartheid and white rule in South Africa.[22]
> ...
> Throughout the Johnson, Nixon, Ford, and Carter
administrations, the United States anti-apartheid movement as
well as divestment from South Africa campaigns increasingly
gained support from the American public. The growth of the
anti-apartheid movement as well as the divestment campaign lead
to increased pressure on the U.S. government to take action
against apartheid policy in South Africa.
--- End Quote ---
It was under Clinton that Apartheid South Africa was finally
toppled.[/quote]
And, during United States and Western European capitalist
hegemony, their economic system of private central bank was
forcibly established on the non-Communist nations which recently
gain freedom under their forced control, the debt started to
opress them all... I still stand with Russia and former
communist nations
It was with assistance of Socialist Russia that "black" people
in South Africa overthrow the "white" ethnostate
"The South African Communist Party (SACP), operating under the
direction of the Comintern, was a strong supporter of the
African National Congress. South African white politicians
routinely denounced the ANC as a devious communist plot to
overthrow the government.
...
The South African government evoked the term rooi gevaar to
refer the political and military threat posed by the Soviet
Union's support for the guerrilla wings of anti-apartheid
movements such as SWAPO and the ANC."[30]
Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa%E2%80%93Soviet_Union_relations
"As the world mourns the death of the great statesman, RBTH
looks back at the role Russia and the Soviet Union played in the
struggle against apartheid.
"When Nelson Mandela turned 95 in July, Russian President
Vladimir Putin gave one of the most glowing tributes to the
great leader. “Your name is inseparably linked with an entire
epoch of Africa's modern history that heralded the building of
the new and democratic Republic of South Africa,” Putin said. He
also praised Mandela’s role in developing ties between Russia
and South Africa.
No discussion about South Africa’s struggle against the tyranny
of apartheid can be complete without mentioning the role of the
Soviet Union. On April 30, 1999, Mandela, on a state visit to
Moscow, was awarded two honorary doctorates from the Russian
Academy of Sciences. As he accepted the honors, Mandela said: “I
would interpret your action also as a tribute to the
intellectuals of our country, of all colors and backgrounds, who
have followed their calling to fashion the complex experience
and aspirations of our diverse society into a single, realizable
vision of a society at peace with itself.”
During the state visit, Mandela expressed gratitude for the
“solidarity of the Russian people in the South African fight
against apartheid and for freedom.”
Although apartheid formally ended after the fall of the Soviet
Union, Soviet ideology was influential in the ideas that led to
the end of the system. The Soviet Union was at the forefront of
the anti-colonial and anti-apartheid movements and the Soviet
Union was the biggest benefactor of the African National
Congress (ANC).
From the 1960s until the early 1990s, the Soviet Union trained
thousands of cadres of MK, the armed wing of the ANC to fight
against the racist regime. According to the website South
African History Online, “The Soviets helped the ANC maintain
structures that came under enormous pressure, especially through
the slump in the 1970s. After that, MK cadres trained in the
USSR launched devastating attacks that added to the pressure
bringing apartheid leaders to the negotiating table.”"
Source :
HTML https://www.rbth.com/international/2013/12/06/mandela_and_the_soviet_union_the_struggle_against_apartheid_32329.html
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> Additionally, Clinton heroically bombed Serbia:
>
>
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/remembering-the-yugoslav-wars/
>
> setting a precedent for what we want the US to eventually do
to Israel/V4/Denmark/Greece/Austria/Serbia again/etc..
>
> Meanwhile:
>
>
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Serbia_relations#Socialist_Yugoslavia_and_USSR
>
> ...
>
> Meanwhile:
>
>
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Serbia_relations#Socialist_Yugoslavia_and_USSR
>
> [quote]Russia condemned NATO at the United Nations and
supported the statement that NATO air strikes on Serbia were an
illegal military action.[56] Volunteers and mercenaries from
Russia were cited to have gone to Kosovo in large numbers to
fight the KLA, and to resist and complicate NATO operations.[57]
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Serbia_relations#Criticism_of_1999_NATO_bombing
--- Quote ---
> Israel refused to support the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia,
leading to admonishment from the United States.[37] Ariel Sharon
criticised NATO's bombing as an act of "brutal interventionism".
> ...
> During the crisis, Elyakim Haetzni said the Serbs should be
the first to receive Israeli aid. "There are our traditional
friends," he told Israel Radio."[39] It was suggested that
Sharon may have supported the Yugoslav position because of the
Serbian population's history of saving Jews during the
Holocaust.[40] On Sharon's death, Serbian minister Aleksandar
Vulin stated: The Serbian people will remember Sharon for
opposing the 1999 NATO bombing campaign against the former
Yugoslavia and advocating respect for sovereignty of other
nations and a policy of not interfering with their internal
affairs.[41]
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
And, Nusantara people should remember that their founding
father, Sukarno had a strong relations with Serbia during
Yugoslavia period...
Sukarno, leader of Socialist Nusantara and Josif Broz Tito,
leader of Serbia during Yugoslavia period
HTML https://img.okezone.com/content/2015/06/10/18/1163306/warga-serbia-anggap-soekarno-bagaikan-dewa-8J4g61DNlg.jpg
Source photo :
HTML https://news.okezone.com/read/2015/06/10/18/1163306/warga-serbia-anggap-soekarno-bagaikan-dewa
[img]
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Translation to English international colonial language :
"Serbia has a historical relationship with Indonesia and we can
increase cooperation.
Not only in the field of law, there is great potential for
cooperation in the fields of economy & infrastructure." -
Indonesian Minister of Law & Human Rights
History of Nusantara relations with Serbia :
"Serbia has a historical relationship with Indonesia. Currently,
the Minister of Law and Human Rights is on a working visit to
Serbia in the context of cooperation in the legal field. Not
only in the legal field, this good relationship has the
potential to be improved into cooperation in the economic and
infrastructure fields.
Bilateral relations were officially established in 1954. The
political relationship between Indonesia and Serbia is the
Non-Aligned Movement. Indonesia's first president Soekarno and
Yugoslavian president Josip Broz Tito were the founding fathers
of the Non-Aligned Movement since 1961.
After the dissolution of Yugoslavia followed by the Bosnian War
of 1992-1995, bilateral relations were at their lowest level,
since Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation,
condemned crimes of ethnic cleansing based on race and religion,
against Bosnians. Muslims committed by Serbs. So, some
Indonesian Muslims rallied to show solidarity with Bosnian
Muslims.
Bilateral relations returned to normal in the 2000s. In 2008,
Indonesia supported Serbia's national integrity by not
recognizing Kosovo's independence from Serbia. Thus, Indonesia
calls on Serbia to always follow the peaceful way through
dialogue to resolve conflicts and address separatist problems in
Kosovo."
Source :
HTML http://rutanwonogiri.kemenkumham.go.id/berita-utama/serbia-punya-hubungan-historis-dengan-indonesia
Kosovo je Serbia
And, according to my uncle who ever lived in Soviet Russia for
30 years during Cold War era, Serbia-Bosnia war actually not
religious war, but just a civil war but deliberately made into
big war because NATO intervention to help the enemies of Serbia
people with their air bombing campaign, my uncle was specialist
on political situation in Eastern Europe and Russia
And Russia condemn bombing of Serbia by NATO nations's fighter
planes, I agree, that is against warmonger nations
And, on Israel condemn bombing of Serbia by NATO nations's
fighter planes, I agree, that is against warmonger nations
#Post#: 8762--------------------------------------------------
Re: Israel
DIR By: Dazhbog
Date: September 13, 2021, 1:43 pm
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--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Russia also supporting the enemies of Israel
--- End Quote ---
Not against Israel:
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HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/?message=4551
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/?message=7077
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--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Israel try to against Russia through lobbying
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No, as you yourself admitted:
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Anglo and Western European nations who want to harm Russia
more than Israel, even I talk about how they, not Israel, try
everything to harm Russia
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> most of people which their party are aligned with left wing
political worldview like Tsamara Amany Alatas are more
supporting the Anglophile nation
--- End Quote ---
This is what Tsamara Amany Alatas looks like:
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[img]
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Of course she is an anglophile leftist.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> rather than Fadli Zon for example who are supporting Russia
--- End Quote ---
This is what Fadli Zon looks like:
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HTML https://daimca.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fadli-Zon.jpg
HTML https://beritalima.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Fadli-Zon.jpg
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Of course he is a russophile rightist.
The common factor between leftism and anglophilia is Aryan blood
memory. The common factor between rightism and russophilia is
non-Aryan blood memory. The racial frontline never changes.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> of course I prefer the latter rather than the former
--- End Quote ---
Yes, because you don't share Aryan blood memory.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> And, Nusantara people should remember that their founding
father, Sukarno had a strong relations with Serbia during
Yugoslavia period
--- End Quote ---
The idea behind Yugoslavia was to erase the ethnic boundaries
between their constituent peoples in favor of a shared Yugoslav
nationality. The Bosnians and the Croats have often formed a
common front against Serb tribalism, whereas the Serbs lashed
out against everyone else. In other words, the Bosnians and the
Croats are more willing to overcome their ethnic boundaries than
the Serbs are, making them worthier successors to the Yugoslav
idea than the Serbs. If Nusantara truly wants to honor their
historic relationship with Yugoslavia, they should strengthen
their ties with Bosnia and Croatia and sever their ties with
Serbia.
--- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
> You do whatever benefits your own tribe.
--- End Quote ---
He even puts his Boromir Syndrome on full display:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/aryanism's-hostility-towards-russia-and-eastern-european-people/?message=8674
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> I cannot deny that Jewish people, beside their evilness, they
are superior being which can conquer the world for not just
fifty, but five thousand years without causing many casualties
to their people, we can learn from them how to win on this cruel
world, they are superhuman
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 8763--------------------------------------------------
Re: Israel
DIR By: guest55
Date: September 13, 2021, 5:19 pm
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--- Quote ---
> they are superhuman
--- End Quote ---
Indeed! They are "superhuman"-beings. Couldn't agree more!
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/antropocentricism-the-most-dangerous-ideology-in-the-world/
The fact that kameradbaren does not care if an ideology is evil
or good, merely whether or not it is successful or not in the
survivalist worldview is the epitome of Western culture and why
Western civilization must die!
Kameradbaren does not care if he is evil all he cares about is
surviving! Not surprising at all then the fact that he is a
Stalinist and Russophile to boot as well then aye!?
#Post#: 8768--------------------------------------------------
Re: Israel
DIR By: guest30
Date: September 13, 2021, 7:21 pm
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@[b]Dazhbog, people of Anglophile political worldview[/b]
--- Quote ---
> [quote]Russia also supporting the enemies of Israel
--- End Quote ---
Not against Israel:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/?message=3519
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/?message=4551
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/?message=7077
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/?message=7100[/quote]
Russia not against Israel, and Anglophile nations oppress the
nations who try to break free from their oppressive economic
system which made by them alongside with some of elite people
from Israelite tribes, Russia is not worse than Anglophile
--- Quote ---
> [quote]Israel try to against Russia through lobbying
--- End Quote ---
No, as you yourself admitted:
--- Quote ---
> Anglo and Western European nations who want to harm Russia
more than Israel, even I talk about how they, not Israel, try
everything to harm Russia
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
That is the result of Israelite politicans who lobby the
Anglophile nation's government, they want their economic system
to be restored in Russia with every ways they can
--- Quote ---
> This is what Tsamara Amany Alatas looks like:
>
> ...
>
> Of course she is an anglophile leftist.
>
> rather than Fadli Zon for example who are supporting Russia
>
> This is what Fadli Zon looks like:
>
> ...
>
> Of course he is a russophile rightist.
>
> The common factor between leftism and anglophilia is Aryan
blood memory. The common factor between rightism and russophilia
is non-Aryan blood memory. The racial frontline never changes.
--- End Quote ---
I am not even talking about fashion here and you suddenly
comparing between good and bad people from their body shape,
this is serious talk about politics, and about why Tsamara was
an Anglophile because she more attracted to progressivist
ideology and liberal democracy which it's center of ideology is
in United States and Western European nations, and Fadli Zon
admired Vladimir Putin, leader of Russia because of his
dictatorial government, you all "Aryanist" people tell many
times that dictatorship is more good than democracy, then you
should admire Fadli Zon rather than her
--- Quote ---
> The common factor between leftism and anglophilia is Aryan
blood memory. The common factor between rightism and russophilia
is non-Aryan blood memory. The racial frontline never changes.
--- End Quote ---
And, Hitler was totally attracted to Anglophilia therefore he
had "Aryan" blood memory then? And the fact is, I not bored to
repeat, that "Anglophilia" political worldview is more resulting
destruction rather than solidarity, and you will consider
Sukarno my nation's founding father was a rightist then... He
was very anti-British (United Kingdom) and anti-American (United
States), and tend to side with Soviet Russia, China, and North
Korea, if you consider "Aryan" blood memory is make people tend
to anglophilia political worldview, then the "Aryan" people must
be annihilated
And, if "Aryan" is a sign for anglophilia people, you consider
that nation who always intervened in other nation affairs and
force them to follow their political and ideological worldview
as an "Aryan" then, seeing that nations of Anglophile like to
intervene in other nation's affairs, even their domestic affairs
--- Quote ---
> [quote]of course I prefer the latter rather than the former
--- End Quote ---
Yes, because you don't share Aryan blood memory.[/quote]
"Aryan" are evil people, they should be taught a lesson, and
Soviet Russia soldiers already given them a lesson through
raping many of them when they won the war during World War 2 and
occupied the capital of Aryan people, Berlin, maybe Aryan
people must be persecuted again and again until they surrender
--- Quote ---
> [quote]And, Nusantara people should remember that their
founding father, Sukarno had a strong relations with Serbia
during Yugoslavia period
--- End Quote ---
The idea behind Yugoslavia was to erase the ethnic boundaries
between their constituent peoples in favor of a shared Yugoslav
nationality. The Bosnians and the Croats have often formed a
common front against Serb tribalism, whereas the Serbs lashed
out against everyone else. In other words, the Bosnians and the
Croats are more willing to overcome their ethnic boundaries than
the Serbs are, making them worthier successors to the Yugoslav
idea than the Serbs. If Nusantara truly wants to honor their
historic relationship with Yugoslavia, they should strengthen
their ties with Bosnia and Croatia and sever their ties with
Serbia.[/quote]
Even Serbian people were attacked Croatians who even not muslim,
if you read history of Yugoslavian wars, you will know that
Serbia feel betrayed by the nation which formed after the
dissolution of Yugoslavia because they are not loyal and agree
that Serbian people was successor of Yugoslavia and therefore
they worth to conquer and led them, see this information :
"The representatives of Vojvodina, Kosovo and Montenegro were
replaced with loyalists of the President of Serbia, Slobodan
Milošević. Serbia secured four out of eight federal
presidency votes[40] and was able to heavily influence
decision-making at the federal level, since all the other
Yugoslav republics only had one vote. While Slovenia and Croatia
wanted to allow a multi-party system, Serbia, led by
Milošević, demanded an even more centralized federation and
Serbia's dominant role in it.[38]
...
Upon Croatia and Slovenia declaring independence in 1991, the
Yugoslav federal government attempted to forcibly halt the
impending breakup of the country, with Yugoslav Prime Minister
Ante Marković declaring the secessions of Slovenia and
Croatia to be illegal and contrary to the constitution of
Yugoslavia, and declared support for the Yugoslav People's Army
to secure the integral unity of Yugoslavia."[43]
Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars#Background
So, the conclusion is, Serbia wanted to unite all of territory
which want to seccede, that is an action against separatist
movement
Respect to Slobodan Milosevic
--- Quote ---
> He even puts his Boromir Syndrome on full display:
>
>
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/aryanism's-hostility-towards-russia-and-eastern-european-people/?message=8674
>
> ...
--- End Quote ---
I am not regret to admit the fact...
@Mazda or NuminousSun, Anglophilic people like Hitler
--- Quote ---
> Kameradbaren does not care if he is evil all he cares about is
surviving! Not surprising at all then the fact that he is a
Stalinist and Russophile to boot as well then aye!?
--- End Quote ---
If I not care and aware to evilness, then I more support British
(United Kingdom) colonial empire and Nazi racist ideology rather
than anti-colonialist Stalin ideology, thanks to my friend who
are Russian people who live in United States for educating and
not bored to make me remember about the evilness of Nazi
ideology
And, also, if you are against Duginist ideology, remember that
he ever said anything good to the world
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Sources of information :
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#Post#: 8780--------------------------------------------------
Re: Israel
DIR By: Dazhbog
Date: September 14, 2021, 11:21 am
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--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> That is the result of Israelite politicans who lobby the
Anglophile nation's government, they want their economic system
to be restored in Russia
--- End Quote ---
Present-day Russia is capitalist, just like Israel. You make no
sense.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Fadli Zon admired Vladimir Putin, leader of Russia because of
his dictatorial government, you all "Aryanist" people tell many
times that dictatorship is more good than democracy, then you
should admire Fadli Zon rather than her
--- End Quote ---
Putin is a democrat:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/is-putin's-russia-duginist-autocracy/<br
/>(see the discussion from reply #4 onward)
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> And, Hitler was totally attracted to Anglophilia therefore he
had "Aryan" blood memory then?
--- End Quote ---
Yes.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> And, if "Aryan" is a sign for anglophilia people, you consider
that nation who always intervened in other nation affairs [...]
as an "Aryan" then, seeing that nations of Anglophile like to
intervene in other nation's affairs, even their domestic affairs
--- End Quote ---
Yes:
--- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
> It was under Clinton that Apartheid South Africa was finally
toppled.
>
> Additionally, Clinton heroically bombed Serbia:
>
>
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/remembering-the-yugoslav-wars/
>
> setting a precedent for what we want the US to eventually do
to Israel/V4/Denmark/Greece/Austria/Serbia again/etc..
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> "Aryan" are evil people, they should be taught a lesson, and
Soviet Russia soldiers already given them a lesson through
raping many of them when they won the war during World War 2 and
occupied the capital of Aryan people, Berlin
--- End Quote ---
Thank you for once more exposing your subhumanity.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> maybe Aryan people must be persecuted again and again until
they surrender
--- End Quote ---
We won't.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Serbia feel betrayed by the nation which formed after the
dissolution of Yugoslavia because they are not loyal
--- End Quote ---
It was in fact the Serbs who betrayed the Yugoslav idea by
transforming Yugoslavia into a Serb ethnocracy. Therefore, the
non-Serb Yugoslavs didn't owe the Serbs any loyalty:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslavia#Breakup
--- Quote ---
> Through a series of moves known as the "anti-bureaucratic
revolution", Milošević succeeded in reducing the autonomy
of Vojvodina and of Kosovo and Metohija, but both entities
retained a vote in the Yugoslav Presidency Council. The very
instrument that reduced Serbian influence before was now used to
increase it: in the eight-member Council, Serbia could now count
on four votes at a minimum: Serbia proper, then-loyal
Montenegro, Vojvodina, and Kosovo.
>
> ...
>
> The Serbian delegation, led by Milošević, insisted on a
policy of "one person, one vote", which would empower the
plurality population, the Serbs.
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 8785--------------------------------------------------
Re: Israel
DIR By: guest30
Date: September 14, 2021, 6:10 pm
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@Dazhbog
--- Quote ---
> [quote]That is the result of Israelite politicans who lobby
the Anglophile nation's government, they want their economic
system to be restored in Russia
--- End Quote ---
Present-day Russia is capitalist, just like Israel. You make no
sense.[/quote]
Present-day Russia is capitalist without the debt-based economic
system which NATO nations want to impose it to Russia, that form
capitalist is a different thing and the Western European people
which you considered as "Aryan" hate that thing, see this
information about how Russia capitalism are different
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDWH68ju868
Source :
HTML http://www.suluh.co.id/berita-234-putin-menendang-rothschild-dan-tatanan-dunia-baru.html
"Thursday, 19 January 2017 - 13:57:57 WIB
Putin Kicks the Rothschilds and the New World Order
Jakarta, suluh.co.id (19/1/17). "We've paid off our debt to the
Rothschilds, so it's time we grab them by the neck and kick them
out Russia's back doors."
The President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, has taken a bold
decision, barring Jacob Rothschild and the International banking
cartel under the control of this Jewish family, from entering
Russian territory.
"Under no circumstances," said Putin.
To his Cabinet, Putin stated, "We have paid off the debt to the
Rothschilds, so it's time we grab their necks and kick them out
Russia's back doors." As reported by the site
www.yournewswire.com, September 15, 2016."
--- Quote ---
> Putin is a democrat:
>
>
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/is-putin's-russia-duginist-autocracy/<br
/>(see the discussion from reply #4 onward)
--- End Quote ---
And Putin lead the nation like how autocrat leader lead the
nation, I like how Putin use his way to defeat their political
opponents, with silently shoot them to die with his secret
agent, or even poisoning them through using secret hired people
--- Quote ---
> [quote]And, if "Aryan" is a sign for anglophilia people, you
consider that nation who always intervened in other nation
affairs [...] as an "Aryan" then, seeing that nations of
Anglophile like to intervene in other nation's affairs, even
their domestic affairs
--- End Quote ---
Yes:
--- Quote ---
> It was under Clinton that Apartheid South Africa was finally
toppled.
>
> Additionally, Clinton heroically bombed Serbia:
>
>
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/remembering-the-yugoslav-wars/
>
> setting a precedent for what we want the US to eventually do
to Israel/V4/Denmark/Greece/Austria/Serbia again/etc..
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
It was under nations of Anglophile where debt-based capitalist
economic system was forcibly implemented to the rest of
non-Western European world, and it was because of large
assistance from Soviet Russia, that people of South Africa can
have power to destroy the apartheid system which created by
"White" people from Western Europe, whom you consider them as
"Aryan", remember, the "white" people who settled and made
apartheid system in South Africa were Dutch (Netherlands) and
also British (United Kingdom) people, your anglophilic worldview
will never attracted to non-Western European people like us
--- Quote ---
> [quote]"Aryan" are evil people, they should be taught a
lesson, and Soviet Russia soldiers already given them a lesson
through raping many of them when they won the war during World
War 2 and occupied the capital of Aryan people, Berlin
--- End Quote ---
Thank you for once more exposing your subhumanity.[/quote]
If you consider "Aryan" were noble people like the false
interpretation made by "Aryanist" community, then I am can be
considered like that, but the real meaning of "Aryan" is clearly
explained in Hitler's ideological book, if you still not believe
that, read Houston Stewart Chamberlain book "The Foundations of
the Nineteenth Century", you will know what are the real meaning
of "Aryan" is, so I consider the terror of Berlin is retaliation
against racism
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