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Re: Antropocentricism: The Most Dangerous Ideology in the World
By: Guess88 Date: October 24, 2022, 9:26 pm
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[quote]Freeganism is just another term for scavenging[/quote]
[quote]Predation is part of canine food procurement but dogs are
mostly scavengers by nature. Long dead, rotting, putrefied and,
of course, revolting carrion has always been the fast food of
canine cuisine. An abundance of nutritious dog food in your home
can't trump instinct.[/quote]
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Good chance that if you enjoy Vodka 'nobility' is lost upon your
essence for all of time and your true spirit is just Turanian!
:) (Although, the same cannot be said for all potato consumers
obviously!).
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Re: Antropocentricism: The Most Dangerous Ideology in the World
By: $@#! Lawn mower! Date: March 11, 2023, 5:17 pm
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What Plants Are Saying About Us
[quote]Your brain is not the root of cognition.[/quote]
[quote]...
“Who knew plants do stuff?” I marveled. Suddenly plants seemed
more interesting. When the pandemic hit, I brought more of them
home, just to add some life to the place, and then there were
more, and more still, until the ratio of plants to household
surfaces bordered on deranged. Bushwhacking through my
apartment, I worried whether the plants were getting enough
water, or too much water, or the right kind of light—or, in the
case of a giant carnivorous pitcher plant hanging from the
ceiling, whether I was leaving enough fish food in its traps.
But what never occurred to me, not even once, was to wonder what
the plants were thinking.
...
To understand how human minds work, he started with plants.
I was, according to Paco Calvo, guilty of “plant blindness.”
Calvo, who runs the Minimal Intelligence Lab at the University
of Murcia in Spain where he studies plant behavior, says that to
be plant blind is to fail to see plants for what they really
are: cognitive organisms endowed with memories, perceptions, and
feelings, capable of learning from the past and anticipating the
future, able to sense and experience the world.
It’s easy to dismiss such claims because they fly in the face of
our leading theory of cognitive science. That theory goes by
names like “cognitivism,” “computationalism,” or
“representational theory of mind.” It says, in short, the mind
is in the head. Cognition boils down to the firings of neurons
in our brains.
And plants don’t have brains.
“When I open up a plant, where could intelligence reside?” Calvo
says. “That’s framing the problem from the wrong perspective.
Maybe that’s not how our intelligence works, either. Maybe it’s
not in our heads. If the stuff that plants do deserves the label
‘cognitive,’ then so be it. Let’s rethink our whole theoretical
framework.”
...
But Calvo wasn’t convinced. Computers are good at logic, at
carrying out long, precise calculations—not exactly humanity’s
shining skill. Humans are good at something else: noticing
patterns, intuiting, functioning in the face of ambiguity,
error, and noise. While a computer’s reasoning is only as good
as the data you feed it, a human can intuit a lot from just a
few vague hints—a skill that surely helped on the savannah when
we had to recognize a tiger hiding in the bushes from just a few
broken stripes. “My hunch was that there was something really
wrong, something deeply distorted about the very idea that
cognition had to do with manipulating symbols or following
rules,” Calvo says.
...
Plants can distinguish self from non-self, stranger from kin.
Plants’ abilities to sense and respond to their surroundings
lead to what seems like intelligent behavior. Their roots can
avoid obstacles. They can distinguish self from non-self,
stranger from kin. If a plant finds itself in a crowd, it will
invest resources in vertical growth to remain in light; if
nutrients are on the decline, it will opt for root expansion
instead. Leaves munched on by insects send electrochemical
signals to warn the rest of the foliage,2 and they’re quicker to
react to threats if they’ve encountered them in the past. Plants
chat among themselves and with other species. They release
volatile organic compounds with a lexicon, Calvo says, of more
than 1,700 “words”—allowing them to shout things that a human
might translate as “caterpillar incoming” or “*$@#, lawn mower!”
Their behavior isn’t merely reactive—plants anticipate, too.
They can turn their leaves in the direction of the sun before it
rises, and accurately trace its location in the sky even when
they’re kept in the dark. They can predict, based on prior
experience, when pollinators are most likely to show up and time
their pollen production accordingly. A plant’s form is a record
of its history. Its cells—shaped by experience—remember.
Chat? Anticipate? Remember? It’s tempting to tame all those
words with scare quotes, as if they can’t mean for plants what
they mean for us. For plants, we say, it’s biochemistry, just
physiology and brute mechanics—as if that’s not true for us,
too.
Besides, Calvo says, plant behavior can’t be reduced to mere
reflexes. Plants don’t react to stimuli in predetermined
ways—they’d never have made it this far, evolutionarily
speaking, if they did. Having to deal with a changing
environment while being rooted to one spot means having to set
priorities, strike compromises, change course on the
fly...[/quote]
Entire article:
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Re: Antropocentricism: The Most Dangerous Ideology in the World
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 13, 2023, 9:30 pm
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Crocodiles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humans:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/crocodiles-were-played-sound-human-090031238.html
[quote]Nile crocodiles were found to react to the cries of baby
bonobos, chimpanzees, and humans — and they appear to be able to
detect degrees of distress, research published in Proceedings of
the Royal Society B, the Royal Society's main
biological-research journal, found.
Researchers played the crocodiles audio recordings of infants
crying and discovered they were drawn to those that seemed the
most distressed.
...
The researchers compared the findings to another study in which
researchers played the same cries for a group of humans. The
study found that humans and crocodiles use different criteria to
judge distress in other species and that humans' judgment tends
to be less accurate.
While humans primarily responded to the pitch of the cries,
crocodiles responded based on levels of "deterministic chaos,
harmonicity, and spectral prominences."
The authors noted that crocodiles could recognize the distress
levels of species very distantly related to them.[/quote]
This is consistent with my theory that language use reduces
empathy.
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Re: True Left breakthrough: folkish imperialism
By: le pen Date: September 22, 2023, 7:28 pm
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HTML https://news.sky.com/story/pack-of-crocodiles-save-dog-stranded-in-river-instead-of-eating-it-12967211
Crocodiles save dog stranded in river instead of eating it - in
possible case of 'emotional empathy'
[quote]
The giant reptiles have a reputation for being "opportunistic
predators" - but chose to nudge the dog to safety, in what
scientists say may be "sentient behaviour suggestive of
cross-species empathy".
A report published in the Journal of Threatened Taxa outlines
how a young dog was observed being chased by a pack of feral
dogs and entered the shallow waters of the Savitri River, in
India's Maharashtra.
The dog had not spotted the three mugger crocodiles floating
nearby, which began edging closer to what appeared to be certain
prey.
The adult reptiles - described by the Wildlife Institute of
India as "opportunistic predators" - instead pushed the dog to
safety using their snouts.
They even guided him to an area of the riverbank that wasn't
occupied by the feral pack, allowing the dog to make a safe
escape on land.
It was an action the journal said may have been down to
"sentient behaviour suggestive of cross-species empathy".
The "curious" incident was uncharacteristic of the crocodiles.
capacity of one species to experience the emotional feelings of
another species merits recognition.
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Re: Antropocentricism: The Most Dangerous Ideology in the World
By: WesternWomen Date: November 11, 2023, 3:47 pm
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Re: Antropocentricism: The Most Dangerous Ideology in the World
By: rp Date: April 11, 2024, 6:27 pm
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HTML https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/posts/13712/revisions
Has the West produced anything even remotely comparable in terms
of philosophical output? And yet Westerners claim to want to end
"speciecism" (despite inventing the concept of "species"
itself!).
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Re: Antropocentricism: The Most Dangerous Ideology in the World
By: robots Date: July 1, 2024, 5:51 pm
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You English robotic clones make it hard for me to feel sorry for
you for too long, you people got some nerve calling me a dumb
animal with your t-rays. It's better to be an animal than a
judeo christian golem-robot, animals live in closer relation to
the truth than biological robots.
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Re: Medical decolonization
By: rp Date: February 11, 2025, 5:35 pm
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_animal_testing#:~:text=The%20history%20of%20animal%20testing,perform%20experiments%20on%20nonhuman%20animals.
[Quote]
The history of animal testing goes back to the writings of the
Ancient Greeks in the 4th and 3rd centuries BCE, with Aristotle
(384–322 BCE) and Erasistratus (304–258 BCE) one of the first
documented to perform experiments on nonhuman animals.[1] Galen,
a physician in 2nd-century Rome, dissected pigs and goats, and
is known as the "Father of Vivisection."[2] Avenzoar, an Arabic
physician in 12th-century Moorish Spain who also practiced
dissection, introduced animal testing as an experimental method
of testing surgical procedures before applying them to human
patients.[3][4] Although the exact purpose of the procedure was
unclear, a Neolithic surgeon performed trepanation on a cow in
3400-3000 BCE.[5] This is the earliest known surgery to have
been performed on an animal, and it is possible that the
procedure was done on a dead cow in order for the surgeon to
practice their skills.
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