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       Re: Gnosticism
       By: guest55 Date: September 26, 2021, 12:40 pm
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       What If The World is Actually a Prison? | The Philosophy of
       Arthur Schopenhauer
       [quote]What if this world is actually one giant prison? When the
       19th-century philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer observed the amount
       of pain that we experience during our lifetimes, he concluded
       that it’s not happiness and pleasure we’re after, but a
       reduction of the ongoing suffering that’s an inherent part of
       existence.
       When we remove the veil of ignorance and behold the harsh
       reality we live in, we might start to question, as Schopenhauer
       does, the idea that, I quote, "this world is the successful work
       of an all-wise, all-good, and, at the same time, all-powerful
       Being." End quote. For Schopenhauer's view of the world is one
       of agony — devoid of divine grace — and it has much more in
       common with a “penal colony” than with the creation of a
       benevolent deity. Now, seeing the world as a prison sounds like
       a recipe for personal misery. Why not adopt a more positive,
       more hopeful perspective? Why look at it with such pessimism?
       Well, Schopenhauer’s idea comes with a twist. Within his
       pessimistic worldview lies an outlook that could be very
       beneficial to humanity. Based on his essay On the Sufferings of
       the World, this video explores Schopenhauer’s pessimistic
       outlook on life and reveals a secret to be gained from
       it.[/quote]
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NBrce-ZHi0
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       Re: Gnosticism
       By: guest55 Date: September 30, 2021, 8:15 pm
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       Mandaeism: The Last Gnostic Religion?[quote]
       All footage of Mandaeans used under a CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 license
       and is attributed to the University of Exeter "Worlds of
       Mandaean Priests" project: [/quote]
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMx_JKJbvJI
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       Re: Gnosticism
       By: guest55 Date: October 5, 2021, 2:17 pm
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       A'an - The Tablets of Thoth (Psychedelic Reading)
       [quote]The Spiritual, Occult and Historical significance of the
       "Emerald Tablets" is almost beyond belief of modern man.
       Written around 36,000 B.C. by Thoth, an Atlantean priest-king,
       this manuscript dates far back beyond reach of any Egyptian
       writings ever found. The author, Thoth, a Master-Teacher of the
       early Egyptians, put this treatise to writing in his native
       Atlantean language and Dr. Doreal, was given the directive to
       retrieve these Tablets and translate them into English for the
       edification of modern man. The powerful and rhythmic verse of
       Thoth is wonderfully retained in Doreal's translation. Contained
       within the pages of Thoth's masterpiece of Spiritual and Occult
       Wisdom is the synthesis of the Ancient Wisdom Teachings, the
       guideline for initiates of all ages, revealing the Knowledge and
       Wisdom hitherto held secret, but now in this New Age, revealed
       to all Seekers on the Path of Light.
       --
       It is recommended to study the material presented here as there
       are many ideas and lessons to be taken from it. Everything can
       be considered a truth or a lie, so if there is something to be
       learnt, take the information and put it to good use.
       Go forth rejoicing in the power and the peace of the One.
       Adonai.[/quote]
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QtEF0lucr4
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       Re: Gnosticism
       By: guest55 Date: October 7, 2021, 8:10 pm
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       The Gnostic Gospels
       [quote]Many early Christians believed that all matter is evil,
       and the spirit-realm is good. There was no “sin” just
       “ignorance”, and the key to eternal life was found through
       “gnosis” — knowledge that was kept hidden from the masses. We’ll
       look at their many gospels and other texts that combine ideas
       Christian, Jewish, and Greek ideas which Orthodox Christians
       left out of the Bible.[/quote]
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agh7EYdLrp0
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       Re: Gnosticism
       By: guest55 Date: December 1, 2021, 3:40 pm
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       Speaking of Gnosis in a previous post on this thread I said:
       [quote]I believe there is a connection to fungal consciousness
       and human consciousness. [/quote]
       Happy to report this intuitive knowledge on my part is now
       confirmed:
       Mushrooms are more closely related to us than to plants!
       [quote]Mushrooms are our most common way of thinking about the
       Kingdom Fungi. We are also likely to call a mushroom a plant,
       whereas genetic comparisons place fungi closer to man than to
       plants.
       In other words, the DNA in fungi more closely resembles the DNA
       of the inhabitants of the animal kingdom. We are nearly 100%
       alike as humans and equally closely related to mushrooms. Only a
       few tiny changes in our DNA structure set us apart, giving us
       our variations in eye, skin, and hair color. We are technically
       all related and we are similar to the mushroom. Some fungi can
       even move or seem to crawl. No plant can do that, but we can.
       This motility is achieved through flagella, a tail that whips
       just like the sperm cell. These are cells that have
       motility.[/quote]
  HTML https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/your-mind-on-my-mind/2009/11/mushrooms_are_more_closely_related_to_us_than_to_plants.html
       Isn't it odd also as humans embrace mushrooms more and more
       mushrooms are sprouting up everywhere?
       The world continues to embrace mycelium!
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IeX48T_fbc
       Why are there so many mushrooms coming up in my yard and garden,
       and what can I do about them?
  HTML https://extension.unh.edu/blog/2018/08/why-are-there-so-many-mushrooms-coming-my-yard-garden-what-can-i-do-about-them
       Mushrooms Are Popping Up Everywhere
  HTML https://blogs.ifas.ufl.edu/orangeco/2018/05/24/mushrooms-are-popping-up-everywhere/
       Mushrooms to help climate change?
       [quote]Scientists from the United States and Europe announced
       plans Tuesday to create the biggest map of underground fungal
       networks, arguing they are an important but overlooked piece in
       the puzzle of how to tackle climate change.
       “Fungi are invisible ecosystem engineers, and their loss has
       gone largely unnoticed by the public,” said Toby Kiers, a
       professor of evolutionary biology at Amsterdam’s Free University
       and co-founder of the non-profit Society for the Protection of
       Underground Networks that’s spearheading the effort. [/quote]
  HTML https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_1153,ar_16:9,c_fill,g_auto,f_auto,q_auto,fl_lossy/wp-cms/uploads/2021/11/p-1-90700964-this-nonprofit-wants-to-map-the-millions-of-kilometers-of-mycelium-around-the-world.jpg
       How you make a map of the trillions of miles of invisible fungus
       networks that give our soil life
       [quote]A network of mycelium runs through all the world’s dirt,
       helping plants grow and sequestering carbon. A massive citizen
       science project to visualize these ‘coral reefs of the soil’ is
       designed to help efforts to save it. How you make a map of the
       trillions of miles of invisible fungus networks that give our
       soil life[/quote]
  HTML https://www.fastcompany.com/90700964/how-you-make-a-map-of-the-trillions-of-miles-of-invisible-fungus-networks-that-give-our-soil-life?partner=rss&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=rss+fastcompany&utm_content=rss?cid=search
       Of interest also, what was the real reason for the psychedelic
       backlash in the 60's?
       See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/what-was-the-real-reason-for-the-psychedelic-backlash-in-the-60's/msg9946/#msg9946
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       Re: Gnosticism
       By: SirGalahad Date: August 14, 2022, 2:44 am
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  HTML https://youtu.be/bIZRthv_AxY
       I don't find it entirely convincing, but nevertheless, it always
       warms my heart to see (Gnostic) nobility cut across
       denominational lines.
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       Re: Gnosticism
       By: guest78 Date: November 21, 2022, 1:18 am
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       Just listened to it the first time earlier, very interesting.
       Thanks for sharing.
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       Re: Drafting up a Jamia
       By: guest78 Date: November 29, 2022, 11:50 am
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       Interesting commentary from the Gnostic Quran Youtube channel:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx0Uyk9mQmz6P1HRreDt0HX8ri8N_KBnQF
       [quote]It is very funny for me to see how Salafis try to blame
       Paul(ra) on one side and prove the inconsistency of the 4
       gospels on the other, using as an argument the Pauline schools,
       which used the tradition of single gospel. The very fact that
       the Qur'anic material is much closer in nature to the Pauline
       tradition of the eastern church, namely the Simonians, the
       Paulitians, the Marcionites, and the Manichaeans, makes the
       Salafist exertions very troublesome. Therefore, their "Dawa"
       scene is very careful to address these topics, because if Islam
       in its embryonic form is a continuation of the single gospel
       tradition, two main questions are bound to be asked: "Why the
       hell then is the homeland of Islam Saudi Arabia and not
       Mesopotamia, where these schools were still alive in the 7th
       century?" And most importantly, "Why the hell is Sunni Islam so
       different from these schools?" And here we begin to think about
       the main thing, what if Islam underwent the same Judaization
       procedure as Christianity? As you can imagine, these questions
       are disastrous for the Salafi Frankenstein.[/quote]
       Replies:
       [quote]
       I’m of the opinion that if the Bible was so easily corrupted,
       then there’s nothing stopping such a thing from happening to the
       Quran as well. But I think that the only thing that people who
       are suspicious of certain aspects of the Bible and Quran can do
       at this point, is wait for the messiah to return with the true
       Word. I’ve tried to read and make sense of and recontextualize
       the narratives in both the Bible and Quran myself, and I never
       get very far. There’s just too much uncertainty
       Another thing to consider: How often do the world’s greatest
       prophets tone down what they say, or refrain from saying it
       entirely, out of pragmatism? It goes without saying that the
       more idealistic one’s goals and beliefs, the harder it becomes
       to disseminate those ideas among a largely average population
       that could only hope to live up to the lofty standards of
       nobility that these figures abided by. This could easily be
       reflected in the kinds of stuff that ended up making it into the
       Bible and Quran, and even the things that DIDN’T make it
       in[/quote]
       [quote]Which Pauline schools are you referring to? The various
       Gnostic heresies were not a continuation of St Paul's tradition
       or Gospel.
       Do you mean Gnostics that claimed to accept some of Paul's
       epistles while rejecting the Gospels?
       The Paulicians
       (Παυλικιανο&#9
       43;)
       were so named by the Orthodox, but not after the Apostle Paul.
       That aside, there is a good point here about the single Gospel
       Gnostics and Islam.
       I think you should touch upon the monotheistic Arabs mentioned
       by Sozomen in the 5th century, as these appeared to be heavily
       Judaisized, possibly by such influences as the Himyarites in the
       Arab world.
       The Jews had various divisions, ranging from Gnostic Baptists to
       the Rabbinical tradition.
       Could Islam not be a product of a number of sources, Jewish
       mainstream and Gnostic?[/quote]
       See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/catharism-the-'good-christians'/
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       Re: Gnosticism
       By: rp Date: February 13, 2023, 7:49 am
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       Hindu seer Puri Shankaracharya claims Jesus was a Hindu and he
       lived in India for 10 years:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-JqLSGH5q4
       This is a better narrative than the retarded "Abrahamic vs
       Dharmic" false dichotomy.
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       Re: Gnosticism
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 13, 2023, 6:07 pm
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       I have always believed in this theory about Jesus' missing
       years:
  HTML https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1994-12-25-1994359065-story.html
       [quote]"Jesus Lived in India."
       In a nutshell, he proposes that the son of Joseph and Mary
       traveled to India when young, imbibed the Buddhist philosophy
       and world view at the feet of Buddhist monks, then returned to
       propagate his findings among his people in Palestine.
       ...
       Ritual baptism and monastic asceticism are among its exports.
       According to Mr. Kersten, even Jesus' parable of the widow's
       mite, cited in the Gospel according to St. Mark, seems to be a
       reworking of an older Buddhist story.
       Another work of Mr. Kersten, to be published in English next
       March, enumerates the parallels between the teachings of Jesus
       and Siddhartha Gautama, the Indian prince and ascetic who
       founded Buddhism.
       Mr. Kersten contends that Jesus' original message was hijacked
       by the Apostle Paul, who introduced new elements, including
       misogyny and the concept that Christ's death absolved others of
       their sins.[/quote]
       Even if Jesus never went to India in person, he was probably
       still familiar with Buddhism:
  HTML https://muse.jhu.edu/article/188153
       [quote]Historical accounts aside, many textual analyses indicate
       striking similarities between what was said by Jesus and by
       Buddha and between the prophetic legend of Jesus and ancient
       Buddhist texts. The conclusion is that, although not identifying
       himself as a Buddhist for good reasons, Jesus spoke like a
       Buddhist. The similarities are so striking that, even if no
       historical evidence existed, we can suspect that Jesus studied
       Buddhist teachings and that the prophecy and legend of Jesus was
       derived from Buddhist stories.
       ...
       During Jesus' time, Judea was a Roman dominion and most of the
       trade was Roman. Being the wealthiest empire of the time, Rome
       sent tons of gold-minted sesterces eastward for goods from India
       and other places. Most of this trade came over the Mediterranean
       and through Judea, making Jerusalem a cosmopolitan shipping
       center. Because of trade alone, Zoroastrianism and Buddhism were
       well known to the people in Judea.[/quote]
       Additionally, Asoka had sent missionaries to Egypt, which is
       another commonly proposed location where Jesus spent his missing
       years, so it would have been possible for Jesus to have studied
       Buddhism there also.
       "retarded "Abrahamic vs Dharmic" false dichotomy."
       Exactly. Judaism should be grouped with Vedism.
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