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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
DIR By: rp
Date: January 8, 2025, 8:38 am
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HTML https://martinezperspective.net/2025/01/christian-support-for-mass-immigration/
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 8, 2025, 3:14 pm
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> Far-left Democrat politician Elizabeth Warren, a Christian,
justified her social justice stances by citing her faith.
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> There’s an interesting contrast here between the Christian
liberal Warren vs the Jewish conservative Stephen Miller, who
Warren tried to drive out of the White House.
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 25, 2025, 5:25 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTA29rfGy_0
Woke (proto-Gnostic?) comments:
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> If Jesus were alive today, Trump would call him a mean and
nasty loser
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> Trump would deport Jesus.
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> Honestly, if Jesus were alive they would not let him in the
country and they likely would have crucified him
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> Trump sees himself as a god. He thinks the First Commandment
applies to him.
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> tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about maga 'Christians'.
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> The issue is not whether Trump is the Anti-Christ. Christ is
the anti-Trump.
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
DIR By: rp
Date: February 15, 2025, 11:59 pm
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HTML https://martinezperspective.net/2025/01/the-christian-role-in-feminism/
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
DIR By: rp
Date: February 17, 2025, 12:00 pm
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
DIR By: rp
Date: February 20, 2025, 6:44 pm
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HTML https://unherd.com/newsroom/jd-vance-a-very-online-catholic/
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
DIR By: rp
Date: February 27, 2025, 12:09 am
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HTML https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1894792313546662092?t=-7oOg-ZsGBJmOPwe5m6hkA&s=19<br
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[quote]
The hypocrisy in this clip from the White House cabinet meeting
is off the charts.
How many sexual assault and fraud claims between them all I
wonder.
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 8, 2025, 6:12 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvfR8DxI9T0
Which is not to say that Leo is anywhere near leftist enough by
our standards (or even False Left standards!):
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_XIV#Views
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> Prevost does not support the ordination of women to the
diaconate, saying that it "doesn't necessarily solve a problem"
and "it might make a new problem".[71]
> ...
> Earlier in 2012, Prevost made comments opposing homosexuality,
saying that popular culture fostered "sympathy for beliefs and
practices that are at odds with the Gospel"
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(There is no record of Jesus ever being homophobic, of course:
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 9, 2025, 7:30 pm
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MAGA reaction:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJVbHBhX4Fw
I was unaware that Leo is registered as a Republican, but I
suppose that reinforces my point that Leo isn't even that
left-leaning.
Serious terminology to MAGA terminology translator:
Christianity: "Marxism"
Judaism : "Christianity"
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
DIR By: SirGalahad
Date: May 9, 2025, 9:27 pm
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@90sRetroFan To be honest, I don't think him being a registered
Republican means all that much, since it appears that he's
always been openly critical of Trump. He appears to resemble
counterculture era Republicanism much more than the current,
MAGA era Republicanism. I would maybe go so far as to place him
on the left side of the political spectrum (although obviously
just barely), considering his relatively compassionate stance
towards immigrants and refugees, and his presumed lack of
explicit ethnotribalism.
Obviously his stances on LGBT people and women aren't where they
should be, but I would argue that this is actually strategically
beneficial for us. If Leo XIV were to become fully and
unambiguously pro-LGBT and anti-sexist, it would very clearly
contradict the Old Testament, and the letters written by Paul in
the New Testament. This flagrant contradiction could potentially
turn many Catholic and non-Catholic Christians away from viewing
Leo XIV as an authority on matters that actually DO align with
the current iteration of the Bible, and that Leo XIV sincerely
possesses, such as the New Testament stance on compassion, and
its stance against tribalism. If he wanted to avoid
contradictions surrounding LGBT people and women, he would have
to discard the Old Testament and the letters from Paul entirely,
essentially deconverting from Catholicism. So this is actually
the best-case scenario for an authority figure who wishes to
remain Catholic.
So seeing as how Leo XIV appears to be continuing Francis's
surprisingly admirable legacy, I actually feel quite optimistic
about Catholicism potentially being a positive force that can
push Catholic Republicans, and Christian Republicans more
generally, further back to the left. Leo XIV's exact position on
the political spectrum is currently the best way that we can
expect a pope to help us undo the MAGA era of Republicanism
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