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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 22, 2020, 2:38 am
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To be fair, Jesus as far as I know never addressed the topic of
incest.
As for the Tanakh:
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[quote]In the Hebrew Bible, sexual relationships between
siblings are forbidden to Jews but permissible to
Gentiles[/quote]
Perhaps more relevant to the Ivanka angle:
[quote]One of the most notable features of each list is that
sexual relations between a man and his own daughter are not
explicitly forbidden
...
Some say it means sexual relations between father and his
daughter are only allowed if the husband is a widower, if the
mother has died (and cannot feel jealousy) the relationship is
allowed.[/quote]
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 15, 2020, 12:12 am
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
By: guest5 Date: January 4, 2021, 5:45 pm
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How the 'Western mind' was shaped by the Medieval Church[quote]
Most research on human psychology focuses on Western societies,
but the way people in the West think can be traced to changes in
family structures in the Middle Ages.[/quote]
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The western mind thinks Judaic and many westerners behave as you
would expect Yahweh himself to behave....
For example, westerners may not sacrifice their children
physically on an alter as Yahweh recommended Abraham do to
Isaac, but they sacrifice their children's innocence
symbolically instead by sending their children to western
schools where they learn to become western adults, or as we like
to call them: the adulterated.
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 13, 2021, 12:20 am
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 15, 2021, 1:49 am
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[quote]In the past few days, I’ve seen all kinds of statements
from Christian leaders trying to distance themselves from the
violent mob at the Capitol. Christian writers known for their
thoughtfulness lament that “somehow” white supremacy has crept
into our churches, and the faculty of a major evangelical
institution put out a manifesto saying that the events at the
Capitol “bear absolutely no resemblance to” the Christianity
they teach. That mob, they’re telling us, is a fringe element.
They’ve radically misunderstood the real message of American
Christianity.
This could not be further from the truth.
I believe the mob at the Capitol has radically misunderstood the
teachings and life of Jesus. But it is an absolutely logical
conclusion of white American Christianity.[/quote]
In other words, the latter is based on the Old Testament.
[quote]Hundreds of years ago, the Church laid the foundation for
the theft of the Americas, enslavement of Africans and Native
Americans, and centuries of brutal colonization worldwide, with
the doctrine that it was O.K. to take land and liberty from
people who were not Christian.
Within their first decade on this continent, the holiness
movement of the Puritans, who told themselves they’d come to the
“new world” to spread the gospel, had virtually exterminated the
Pequot people, and enslaved many survivors. And Roger Williams,
the Massachusetts minister who became the first advocate for
religious freedom and the separation of church and state, was
banished from his colony by his fellow Christians for objecting
to government attempts to enforce the first four of the Ten
Commandments, refusing to swear an oath of loyalty to the
government of Massachusetts and saying grace over his meals at
the wrong time. Alone and sick, he fled into the New England
winter, which almost killed him. Though his fellow Puritans gave
lip service to the idea that they had come to the continent to
share the light of Christ, he was the only one who bothered to
learn local customs or languages. Saved that winter by the
Narragansett people, he was without a church home when he died
years later.
Williams’ doctrine of the separation of church and state was
eventually inscribed in the American Constitution. And Thomas
Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence reflects the strong
influence of Christianity in the American colonies, by rooting
the rights it demands in our status as creatures of God. But the
Declaration of Independence also describes Native Americans as
“merciless Indian savages,” and the Constitution defined
African-Americans as only three-fifths of a person. Despite
America’s early public piety, this country is explicitly founded
on the idea that the people who built its farms, roads, cities
and wealth, without freedom or payment, are not quite human. And
despite Jefferson’s rousing insistence on the equality of “men”
in the eyes of God, his own wealth came mainly from a factory he
staffed with enslaved children.
Sentimental depictions of Christian faith among enslaved people
are popular with American Christians, and the rich tradition of
gospel music, perhaps America’s greatest contribution to world
culture or the church, was unquestionably created by people
living in American slavery. But people in slavery in America did
not start becoming Christian in large numbers until around 1800,
because American slave-holders avoided sharing Christian
teaching with the people they enslaved, so that they wouldn’t
find themselves in the position of holding fellow Christians in
slavery, which might force them to give up their
“property.”[/quote]
See what I mean?
[quote]For early voices that spoke out against slavery within
the American church, the price was high. Benjamin Lay, who
shamed the Quakers into becoming abolitionists with stunts like
standing outside meetinghouses on Sunday morning barefoot in the
snow to remind the good Christians of the condition of the
people they held in slavery at home, died unwelcome as a member
in any Quaker church.
For the vast majority of American history, Christian ministers
have spoken with passion and vigor in favor of slavery,
segregation, and white supremacy. Not even all Christian
abolitionists were convinced of the full humanity of the people
they fought to free. The Ku Klux Klan is a movement deeply
rooted in the church, in both the North and the South.
When Black Christian clergy organized the 1963 March on
Washington, where Martin Luther King, Jr., a Baptist minister,
delivered his “I Have A Dream” speech, Christianity Today,
founded not even a decade earlier by Billy Graham, and edited at
the time by one of evangelicalism’s most prominent theologians,
Carl F.H. Henry, called it “a mob spectacle.”
Today, American neighborhoods are more segregated than they were
in the years immediately following the Civil War. But churches
are even more segregated than the rest of society. Sunday
morning, when people stream into services, is one of the most
segregated hours in America.
These are not minor aberrations, sidenotes to our history,
either as a country or a church. White supremacy, racism and
segregation are a cancer running through our major organs. And
our apathy toward them, or our comfort with them, compromise and
threaten to kill all the other good we hope to do.
We cannot get rid of them by pretending they’re not central to
our history, and central to the way we live today. And in our
hearts, we know they are. That’s why so many Christian
institutions and leaders have failed to speak out directly
against racism and white supremacy, instead taking refuge in
recent days in vague calls for prayer and healing. We know if we
confront these foundational American sins directly, their
supporters will cause convulsions that may tear our institutions
apart – and knock us from our coveted positions.
But there can be no healing without this direct confrontation.
You cannot cure cancer by pretending it is not there.The white
American church can’t pretend that the mob at the Capitol is not
part of us.
It is us.
To have any hope of healing, we must acknowledge that fact. We
must admit our own ignorance. Our own apathy. Our own discomfort
with people who are different from us. Our own desire to believe
that we’re better than everyone else. Our own willingness to
take things that are not ours, and keep things we did not earn.
Our profound bent to lie about ourselves. Our willingness to do
violence to get what we want. Our willingness to turn away when
violence is done to others, because it benefits us.
As Christians, we must forcefully, publicly name and repudiate
these things. We must be honest about how long a history they
have and how deep they go. And about how much work it will take
to eradicate them.
And we must do that work.[/quote]
So will you discard the Old Testament from your Bible?
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
By: guest5 Date: January 15, 2021, 1:03 pm
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[quote]@PastorJohnHagee
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May 17, 2018
Supporting Israel is not a political issue, it's a Bible issue.
It is not possible to say, "I believe the Bible" and not support
Israel and the Jewish people.[/quote]
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 19, 2021, 11:00 pm
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[quote]Column: A Catholic pastor speaks out about Trump. Some
parishioners walk out.
...
“As President Trump has lied about so many things,” he told the
congregation, “I have never spoken out, and fear we are teaching
the young that truth and facts do not matter.”
By Corcoran’s count, a dozen people walked out of Mass that
morning. Nearly two dozen more at the 9:30 Mass. “Probably 30,”
he estimates, at the 11:30.
Each time he was startled. Saddened. “Awful,” is how he
described it later.
And each time he knew he was doing what he had to do.
...
After he spoke out, Corcoran received calls and emails from
several upset parishioners. Some said they come to church to
find peace and instead they’d found confrontation.[/quote]
I have long warned that even in moderate churches the
congregations tend to be more rightist than the clergy.
Now imagine how bad it would be if churches were democratic.
If we can see that is a good thing that churches are not
democratic, why is it harder to see that states should not be
democratic either?
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
By: guest5 Date: January 24, 2021, 3:28 pm
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How Might Joe Biden’s Catholic Faith Guide His Presidency? |
Sunday TODAY
[quote]When Joe Biden was inaugurated on Wednesday, he became
the second Catholic president in American history. He has spoken
openly about his faith, but how does it line up with his policy
proposals? [/quote]
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Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
By: guest5 Date: January 28, 2021, 12:28 pm
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It ain't too hard to tell who sits behind that throne aye!? :D
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 31, 2021, 9:41 pm
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