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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
By: guest5 Date: May 2, 2021, 1:23 pm
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I would also add this to the debate:
[quote]Obernigg provided British intelligence officers with a
detailed description of Hitler's daily routine at the retreat.
Hitler was said to favor waking up at about 10 a.m., breakfasted
on coffee, bread and marmalade shortly afterward, and received
visitors including his doctor in the afternoon. The accounts
show he apparently worked until late in the night and went to
sleep as late as 4 a.m.[/quote]
[quote]The deserter also described Hitler's attitude toward his
personal guards.
"Hitler cannot bear to feel himself watched ... guards were
instructed to keep him in sight but to remain unobserved
themselves," said Obernigg, according to the files.[/quote]
HTML https://www.ctvnews.ca/newly-released-files-show-hitler-s-daily-routine-1.568696
I may not be able to relate to Hitler's sleeping schedule, but I
can relate to him not wanting to be watched. lol!
Lastly, just because a farmer gets up at 5:00 a.m. to catch the
sunrise does not necessarily mean he enjoys it. Did the
aristocracy the neolithic revolution created also rise at 5:00
a.m. to catch the sunrise along with the farmers? What about the
temple priests? There is some evidence that artists especially
are night owls because they can maintain better focus when
there's no people around to bother them. When I used to stay up
into the early morning hours I was either playing video games or
working on art. Now that I own my own business I cannot afford
those hours any longer. I suspect many children are night owls
because during those hours there are no working adults
around....
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 2, 2021, 10:28 pm
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"There is some evidence that artists especially are night owls
because they can maintain better focus when there's no people
around to bother them."
I agree that artists can maintain better focus in quiet hours,
but disagree that this implies they must be night owls. I myself
access such hours by going to sleep early in the evening and
getting up several hours before dawn. I imagine Golden Age Aryan
artists similarly getting in a few hours of art before starting
farm work, which seems to make more sense than trying to do art
in physical fatigue after a day's farm work? (When I'm
physically tired, I just want to eat and then sleep!)
"I suspect many children are night owls because during those
hours there are no working adults around...."
I agree that children may relish quiet hours, but again waking
extra early is as valid a way of accessing these hours as is
going to sleep extra late.
As for Hitler, from your article:
[quote]He was said to have been at Hitler's retreat in
Obersalzberg in the Bavarian Alps between 1943 and 1944.[/quote]
I doubt Hitler was concentrating on painting by then! He was
much more likely working on WWII!
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
By: guest27 Date: May 3, 2021, 6:16 pm
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=85.msg6082#msg6082
date=1620012526]
I agree that artists can maintain better focus in quiet hours,
but disagree that this implies they must be night owls. I myself
access such hours by going to sleep early in the evening and
getting up several hours before dawn. I imagine Golden Age Aryan
artists similarly getting in a few hours of art before starting
farm work, which seems to make more sense than trying to do art
in physical fatigue after a day's farm work? (When I'm
physically tired, I just want to eat and then sleep!)
[/quote]
Farmers only work full days during parts of the year when they
need to till, sow, and harvest. If they eat the same calories in
the same pattern (modest breakfasts, hearty dinners) during less
labour intensive periods, surplus energy would be most
concentrated after dinner when the body and mind are flooded
with glucose, which is no longer all being quickly used up to
replenish and recover.
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 3, 2021, 10:31 pm
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Or they could eat less.
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
By: rp Date: May 3, 2021, 10:34 pm
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Exactly. My mother frequently remarks that those in
non-agricultural occupations should not eat as much as those in
agricultural occupations. I agree with her.
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
By: guest5 Date: May 4, 2021, 12:22 am
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Interesting stuff. I would imagine farmers would eat more during
the fall and winter months to gain some fat as a protection
against colder weather, no? Is there evidence that neolithic
peoples crafted winter clothing at all, or did they stay inside
mostly near fires? (Even in a warmer climate region a drop of
ten degrees will still feel cold to a person that lives in that
region year round will it not?)
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
By: guest27 Date: May 4, 2021, 6:03 am
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[quote author=NuminousSun link=topic=85.msg6131#msg6131
date=1620105768]
Interesting stuff. I would imagine farmers would eat more during
the fall and winter months to gain some fat as a protection
against colder weather, no? Is there evidence that neolithic
peoples crafted winter clothing at all, or did they stay inside
mostly near fires? (Even in a warmer climate region a drop of
ten degrees will still feel cold to a person that lives in that
region year round will it not?)
[/quote]
I question whether we'd insulate ourselves with fat or just rev
up our metabolism to increase heat production, since the body
preferentially burns excess carbohydrates as heat and excitement
rather than converting them to fat (de novo lipogenesis is
notoriously inefficient). In any case, excess calories are
already being used, so you'd need to intentionally eat more just
so you can make art, or happen to have a hearty appetite
(gorging is a hunter-gatherer trait) and spontaneously use that
energy artistically.
But we're talking as if artists in the Neolithic were equally
farmers. A hallmark of farming was that it created surplus which
allowed for specialization. Art also doesn't require as many
calories as physical labour, so instead of eating more, artists
could choose to eat less in exchange for working less. The
carbohydrate-rich diet of farming societies would be ideal for
artists and thinkers in terms of caloric efficiency, since the
brain disproportionately prefers glucose compared to the
muscles.
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
By: rp Date: May 21, 2021, 12:15 am
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I wanted to point out that Autism seems to be a different
phenomenon (and hence would have evolved under different
selective pressure) than ADHD. Autistic kids are usually ones
who are only capable of doing the same activity for a long
period of time, while they are unable to deal with multitasking.
This is in contrast to ADHD kids, who are unable to do the same
activity for a long period of time.
What do you think?
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
By: Zea_mays Date: May 23, 2021, 5:10 pm
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I think "autism" is such a broad spectrum and seems to consist
of many different root causes manifesting with broadly similar
'symptoms', that it is useless to talk about the diagnosis as a
single cohesive thing. Some people diagnosed with autism are so
retarded that they are unable to understand/express many
emotions and have severe difficulty learning things. Others seem
to be somewhat normal people who fall into the extreme of
"nerdy" personality traits, with normal intelligence but
difficulty with social matters. Others still have been suggested
to be "hyper-empaths" who are so perceptive of emotions and
social matters that they become emotionally-overloaded and
short-circuit. This outwardly manifests in symptoms that seem
similar to the individuals who genuinely are unable to
understand emotions.
Others may be diagnosed with autism because they do not comply
with Western cultural and psychological standards. (For example,
in many cultures it is discouraged or even considered an extreme
taboo to make eye contact with people for various reasons, but
apparently this is considered a major 'symptom' of autism.
...Or, you know, the child has been so traumatized by their
parents/adults that they try to avoid initiating contact with
them at all costs by avoiding eye contact).
I think this is similar to ADHD to some extent as well. There
may be evolutionary causes for hunters and herders to have
evolved ADHD, but kids are also diagnosed with ADHD simply
because they get bored as hell by the Western school system, and
instead of adapting the system to the kids, they drug the kids
so they comply with the system.
(For reference, here's a study about how ADHD could benefit
herders as well. I think there are other articles on this
subject also.)
HTML https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14100-did-hyperactivity-evolve-as-a-survival-aid-for-nomads/
I recall reading a study which examined brainwave scans, which
determined that a disease as uncontroversial as schizophrenia is
actually something like 7 different things that all express
somewhat similar symptoms, but have different root causes in the
brain. Things like ADHD and autism, which are much more complex
and have a broader range of symptoms, likely have many more root
causes.
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 5, 2021, 9:52 pm
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Our enemies posted this first, so I will repost:
HTML https://vdare.com/public_upload/publication/featured_image/55970/VDARE-nobel.jpg
They even included a second picture:
HTML https://assets2.rappler.com/2021/10/david-julius-ardem-patapoutian-ls-1633341577280-546.jpg
Recall from the top post in this topic:
[quote]Enjoys new ideas, excitement and “the hunt.”[/quote]
HTML https://vdare.com/posts/first-2021-nobel-awarded-will-the-hard-science-nobels-finally-go-woke
[quote]“When you find a field that’s not well understood,” he
said, “it’s a great opportunity to dig in.”[/quote]
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