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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
By: christianbethel Date: March 8, 2023, 4:29 pm
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[quote]After christianbethel posts his next draft[/quote]
I'm almost done, but it will still take some time. Please bear
with me a little longer.
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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
By: christianbethel Date: March 25, 2023, 12:39 pm
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Finished. Sorry it took so long:
HTML https://docs.google.com/document/d/1revVtghNuZJMguzk_CP-Bv447VLQnzm-jMDnFUcGt30/edit?usp=sharing
HTML https://docs.google.com/document/d/1revVtghNuZJMguzk_CP-Bv447VLQnzm-jMDnFUcGt30/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 25, 2023, 10:21 pm
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What's with the subheadings in blue text?
[quote]75. Do you ˹[Israelite] believers still˺ expect
them to be true to you, though a group of them would hear the
word of Allah then knowingly corrupt it after understanding it?
[/quote]
What's with "[Israelite]"?
[quote]85. But here you [the Israelites] are, killing each other
and expelling some of your people from their homes, aiding one
another in sin and aggression; and when those
˹expelled˺ come to you as captives, you still ransom
them—though expelling them was unlawful for you. Do you believe
in some of the Scripture [the Torah] and reject the rest? Is
there any reward for those who do so among you other than
disgrace in this worldly life and being subjected to the
harshest punishment on the Day of Judgment? For Allah is never
unaware of what you do. 86. These are the ones who trade the
Hereafter for the life of this world. So their punishment will
not be reduced, nor will they be helped. 87. Indeed, We gave
Moses the Book [the Torah] and sent after him successive
messengers. And We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs and
supported him with the holy spirit. Why is it that every time a
messenger comes to you Israelites with something you do not
like, you become arrogant, rejecting some and killing
others?[/quote]
[quote]88. They [the Israelites] say, “Our hearts are
unreceptive!” In fact, Allah has condemned them for their
disbelief. They have but little faith.[/quote]
[quote]89. Although they used to pray for victory ˹by means
of the Prophet˺ over the polytheists, when there came to
them a Book [the Qur’an] from Allah which they recognized,
confirming the Scripture [the Torah] they had ˹in their
hands˺, they rejected it. [/quote]
What's with the "[the Israelites]" and "[the Torah]"?
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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
By: christianbethel Date: March 26, 2023, 9:37 am
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=802.msg18608#msg18608
date=1679800872]
What's with the subheadings in blue text?
[quote]75. Do you ˹[Israelite] believers still˺ expect
them to be true to you, though a group of them would hear the
word of Allah then knowingly corrupt it after understanding it?
[/quote]
What's with "[Israelite]"?
[quote]85. But here you [the Israelites] are, killing each other
and expelling some of your people from their homes, aiding one
another in sin and aggression; and when those
˹expelled˺ come to you as captives, you still ransom
them—though expelling them was unlawful for you. Do you believe
in some of the Scripture [the Torah] and reject the rest? Is
there any reward for those who do so among you other than
disgrace in this worldly life and being subjected to the
harshest punishment on the Day of Judgment? For Allah is never
unaware of what you do. 86. These are the ones who trade the
Hereafter for the life of this world. So their punishment will
not be reduced, nor will they be helped. 87. Indeed, We gave
Moses the Book [the Torah] and sent after him successive
messengers. And We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs and
supported him with the holy spirit. Why is it that every time a
messenger comes to you Israelites with something you do not
like, you become arrogant, rejecting some and killing
others?[/quote]
[quote]88. They [the Israelites] say, “Our hearts are
unreceptive!” In fact, Allah has condemned them for their
disbelief. They have but little faith.[/quote]
[quote]89. Although they used to pray for victory ˹by means
of the Prophet˺ over the polytheists, when there came to
them a Book [the Qur’an] from Allah which they recognized,
confirming the Scripture [the Torah] they had ˹in their
hands˺, they rejected it. [/quote]
What's with the "[the Israelites]" and "[the Torah]"?
[/quote]
I added those bracketed terms to avoid potential confusion, as
the context of the full passage and what the dialogue is
referencing is unclear. As for the blue subheadings, that is the
same format the Mustafah Khattab translation uses. Want me to
remove them?
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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 26, 2023, 6:50 pm
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I think we should remove 42, 45, 48, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90.
So we go from 38 directly to 80, 81, 82 and then to 91.
Again, please transfer what we are removing this time round onto
a new document in case we need to check back.
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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
By: christianbethel Date: March 26, 2023, 6:54 pm
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On it.
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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
By: christianbethel Date: March 27, 2023, 3:23 pm
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Done.
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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 27, 2023, 6:38 pm
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97, 98, 102, 113, 134 should be removed.
I also think that the blue subheadings might be better off
removed, but we can get back to this at the end.
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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
By: christianbethel Date: March 27, 2023, 7:59 pm
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OK.
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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
By: christianbethel Date: March 28, 2023, 4:12 pm
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Done.
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