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#Post#: 15397--------------------------------------------------
Re: Drafting up a Jamia
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: August 29, 2022, 8:06 pm
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--- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
>
> Please follow procedure. We are currently only removing Judaic
verses.
>
--- End Quote ---
Done.
#Post#: 15399--------------------------------------------------
Re: Drafting up a Jamia
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 29, 2022, 9:58 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Ayat 16-19: ‘16. We did not create the heavens and the earth
and everything in between for sport. 17. Had We intended to take
some amusement, We could have found it in Our presence, if that
had been Our Will. 18. In fact, We hurl the truth against
falsehood, leaving it crushed, and it quickly vanishes. And woe
be to you for what you claim!
--- End Quote ---
Why not only 16?
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> Ayat 58-63: ‘58. As for those who emigrate in the cause of
Allah and then are martyred or die, Allah will indeed grant them
a good provision. Surely Allah is the Best Provider. 59. He will
certainly admit them into a place they will be pleased with. For
Allah is truly All-Knowing, Most Forbearing. 60. That is so. And
whoever retaliates in equivalence to the injury they have
received, and then are wronged again, Allah will certainly help
them. Surely Allah is Ever-Pardoning, All-Forgiving. 61. That is
because Allah causes the night to merge into the day, and the
day into the night. Indeed, Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing.
62. That is because Allah alone is the Truth and what they
invoke besides Him is falsehood, and Allah alone is truly the
Most High, All-Great.’
--- End Quote ---
Why not only 61?
This seems to be a recurring problem. Please check for other
cases throughout the document where you have removed excessive
text surrounding the verse requiring removal and adjust
accordingly.
#Post#: 15417--------------------------------------------------
Re: Drafting up a Jamia
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: August 31, 2022, 9:52 am
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Done, though there are some lines of excessive text I could not
remove due to the verses sometimes divvying up a complete
sentence (e.g. Surah 95:1-3).
#Post#: 15419--------------------------------------------------
Re: Drafting up a Jamia
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 31, 2022, 5:51 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Ayat 31-32: ‘31. To Allah alone belongs whatever is in the
heavens and whatever is on the earth so that He may reward the
evildoers according to what they did, and reward the good-doers
with the finest reward— 32. those who avoid major sins and
shameful deeds, despite stumbling on minor sins. Surely your
Lord is infinite in forgiveness. He knew well what would become
of you as He created you from the earth and while you were still
fetuses in the wombs of your mothers. So do not falsely elevate
yourselves. He knows best who is truly righteous.’
--- End Quote ---
Why not only 32?
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> Ayat 6-12. ‘6. And as for ’Ȃd, they were destroyed by a
furious, bitter wind 7. which Allah unleashed on them non-stop
for seven nights and eight days, so that you would have seen its
people lying dead like trunks of uprooted palm trees. 8. Do you
see any of them left alive?
--- End Quote ---
?
#Post#: 15421--------------------------------------------------
Re: Drafting up a Jamia
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: August 31, 2022, 6:45 pm
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'Why not only 32?'
It wouldn't be a complete sentence if I removed verse 31.
'?'
The Adites aren't mentioned in the Tanakh, but the prophet Hud
is speculated to be Eber, an ancestor of the Israelites. It's
showing how Hud was a Judaic prophet who was sent to the people
of 'Ad and how they were wiped out for worshipping false gods.
#Post#: 15423--------------------------------------------------
Re: Drafting up a Jamia
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 31, 2022, 7:06 pm
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"It wouldn't be a complete sentence if I removed verse 31."
31 is the one I am saying should be in the final version of the
Jamia, which should read:
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> To Allah alone belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever
is on the earth so that He may reward the evildoers according to
what they did, and reward the good-doers with the finest reward
--- End Quote ---
This is a complete sentence. What matters is that the final
version of the Jamia is in complete sentences! The document
containing the removed verses does not need to be in complete
sentences!
"The Adites aren't mentioned in the Tanakh, but the prophet Hud
is speculated to be Eber, a descendant of the Israelites. It's
showing how Hud was a Judaic prophet who was sent to the people
of 'Ad and how they were wiped out for worshipping false gods."
Even if Hud was Eber, Eber is not a prophet in Judaism. Strictly
speaking, he is not even an Israelite, since the first Israelite
was Jacob (Abraham's grandson), whom Eber preceded by many
generations:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eber
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> Eber was a great-grandson of Noah's son Shem and the father of
Peleg, born when Eber was 34 years old,[1] and of Joktan. He was
the son of Shelah, a distant ancestor of Abraham.
--- End Quote ---
Moreover, even Israelites, so long as they not regarded as
prophets in Judaism (e.g. Jesus), are acceptable to us.
Please go through the document and remove also other verses
mentioning Hud (unless Judaic prophets are also mentioned).
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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: August 31, 2022, 7:38 pm
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Done - any and all mentions of 'Ad and Hud have either been
removed or disemboldened.
#Post#: 15425--------------------------------------------------
Re: Drafting up a Jamia
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 31, 2022, 9:28 pm
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"any and all mentions of 'Ad and Hud have either been removed or
disemboldened."
Why have these not been removed?
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> 38. And the people of ’Ȃd and Thaműd met a similar fate,
which
> must be clear to you Meccans from their ruins. Satan made
their evil deeds appealing to
> them, hindering them from the Right Way, although they were
capable of reasoning.
--- End Quote ---
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> 13. If they turn away, then say, O
> Prophet, “I warn you of a mighty blast, like the one that
befell ’Ȃd and Thaműd.”’
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 15427--------------------------------------------------
Re: Drafting up a Jamia
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: August 31, 2022, 9:57 pm
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Ah. I thought it would be best to leave those in for some
reason, since they mentioned the people of Thamud, which was
specifically mentioned on the old Jamia blog. By the time you
respond to this post, they will have been removed. Would you
like me to also remove the mentions of Shu'aib (Jethro)?
#Post#: 15428--------------------------------------------------
Re: Drafting up a Jamia
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 31, 2022, 10:10 pm
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"I thought it would be best to leave those in for some reason,
since they mentioned the people of Thamud, which was
specifically mentioned on the old Jamia blog."
There is serious confusion here. We are talking about removing
them FROM THE CURRENT DOCUMENT that we are working with.
Something removed FROM THE CURRENT DOCUMENT is something which
WILL APPEAR IN THE EVENTUAL JAMIA. Yet you seem to be talking
about removing them FROM THE JAMIA.
Are you following what I am saying? Right now you should have
two documents:
1) the stuff we eventually want to keep
2) the stuff we do not eventually want to keep
When I am asking you to "remove" something, I am asking you to
remove FROM 2), which means you must cut it out of 2) and then
paste it back into 1). Is this what you have been doing so far,
or not?
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