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Argentina
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 3, 2021, 11:15 pm
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HTML https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/argentina-white-european-racism-history
[quote]“Mexicans descend from the Aztecs, Peruvians from the
Incas – but Argentinians descend from the ships,” goes an old
saying that encapsulates Argentina’s perception of itself as a
nation of transplanted white Europeans.
But that Eurocentric view is being vehemently disputed as not
only outdated but also factually untrue by a generation of young
Afro-descendant researchers and activists who wish to rewrite
the accepted version of Argentinian history.
“Argentina needs to understand that it is both very racist and
very Afro,” said black activist and researcher Alí Delgado.
University lecturer Patricia Gomes is another Afro-descendant
researcher intent on demolishing Argentina’s mythical self-image
as a white nation. “In Argentina it used to be said that here
there were no blacks, therefore there was no one to be racist
with – and hence there was no racism,” she said.
Delgado and Gomes point to recent studies of population surveys
and genetics that paint a far different picture from Argentina’s
accepted history: one recent study concluded that up to 9% of
today’s Argentinians may have ancestry from Africa.
The reason is simple: between the 16th and 19th centuries – long
before the wave of European migration – more than 200,000
enslaved Africans arrived at the twin ports of the River Plate,
Buenos Aires and Montevideo, capital cities of what are now
Argentina and Uruguay.
“The number of slaves who arrived to the region of the River
Plate is almost half of those who arrived in the US, which gives
an idea of the magnitude of slave traffic in the River Plate
region,” according to Alex Borucki, a Uruguayan academic at the
University of California Irvine, who co-manages the SlaveVoyages
website that traces every ship carrying enslaved people that
reached the Americas.[/quote]
NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.
[quote]In 1778, Africans and Afro-descendants made up 37% of the
population of what is now Argentina, according to a census by
its Spanish colonialist rulers. In some major provinces the
proportion was more than 50%.
That number did not drop significantly after independence from
Spain in 1816: Afro-descendants accounted for 30% of the
population of Buenos Aires for decades after independence. But
after that, the number is unknown, because Argentina’s census
bureau stopped collecting racial information.
“Census data was manipulated to erase us first from the
statistics – and then from the history books,” says Gomes. “From
the end of the 19th century the state meticulously began to make
us invisible to present Argentina as homogeneous and of European
descent.”
Argentina’s “whitening process” has been studied in depth by US
academic Erika Edwards in her book Hiding in Plain Sight,
published last year by University of Alabama Press.
“The whitening project was a successful endeavor in terms of the
erasure of blackness,” said Edwards. “The idea that somebody
could be the descendant of a slave is just not there.”
That belief in a strictly European Argentina continues to
percolate. “We are all descendants from Europe,” said President
Mauricio Macri at the 2018 World Economic Forum in Davos.
It wasn’t until the 2010 census that an option was included for
Argentinians wishing to self-identify as Afro-descendants. “That
inclusion was very important but unfortunately it was restricted
to only a small segment of the population, with the resulting
projection suggesting that only half a percent of the population
self-identify that way,” said Gomes.
Delgado and Gomes prefer data from a 2005 study conducted by
Afro-descendant researchers that projects 5% of the population
as having at least one African forebear.
A genetic study conducted by the University of Brasília in 2008
reached a different conclusion, finding that 9% of current-day
Argentinians are of African ancestry.
Argentina’s pro-European immigration policy was initiated under
its 1853 constitution at a time when the country’s
post-independence thinkers and politicians were obsessed with
the dichotomy of Civilization and Barbarism – the title of a
1845 book by Domingo Sarmiento, the country’s seventh president.
In this Manichean view, Afro-descendants were placed squarely on
the barbarism end of the scale.[/quote]
That would make it an anti-Manichaean view. Actual Manichaeans
believe materialism is evil. Even those who dislike "blacks" do
not accuse them of affinity for material success.
[quote]“If it was not possible to physically eliminate
Argentina’s Afro-descendants, the decision was to at least
eliminate them symbolically, to create a discourse that there
are no blacks in Argentina, that Brazil has that problem,” says
Edwards.
The entrenched poverty of many Afro-descendants goes hand in
hand with Argentina’s structural racism, says Delgado.
“There are no black journalists or politicians, but Argentina’s
poor barrios are full of Afro-descendants. So are our prisons,
just like in the United States.”[/quote]
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Argentina
By: antihellenistic Date: October 23, 2022, 9:53 am
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Argentine were victim of gentrification and economic liberalism
through Spanish and British colonialism. See the written
documenter's content below :
If you not have many time, read only the written sentences which
given bold
Source : Why Argentina is not rich - CaspianReport (11th October
2022)
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu22RNjjrG0
[quote](Minute 03 : 27 until 04 : 33)
When measuring a state's living standards there are lies, damned
lies, and GDP per capita statistics. Productivity measures can
be useful but alone they reveal nothing of a society's actual
conditions. Argentina is a case in point, though by 1900 it
ranked highly on standard metrics, land policy remain rooted in
the 16th century. And though land is the source of all wealth in
Argentina, land distribution led to development mediocracy. Like
all settler societies, Argentina's land policy was determined by
colonization patterns. Violence and the prerogative of force
guided land transfers from the indigenous peoples to the
conquerors ... Soldiers and the politically well-connected
carved out vast estates called estancias. And this top heavy
system of proprietorship ensured wealth, status, and political
power.
...
(Minute 05 : 01 until 06 : 50)
...new lands were granted to settlers but the lion's share went
to the already wealthy. Advances in refrigeration technology and
the absence of a domestic market monthly estanciearos relied on
exports to realize profits. Most were destined for the
industrial hub of Britain, as such British investments began to
seep into Argentina, monopolizing the country's railways to
ensure export stability. Britain thereby stepped into the
imperial role that Spain once occupied here the Estancia Rose's
self interest clashed with development priorities. Having
acquired their land by less sophisticated means, their wealth
and influence dependent on Argentina remaining a source of raw,
agricultural commodities. There was thus no impetus to move up
the value chain or industrialize, instead these function were
left to Britain confining Arentina to stagnation.
Moreover, as immigrants poured into the River Plate, many became
tenant farmers on the estancias. Here excessive rents gobbled up
the surplus of farmworks and this undermined the consumer demand
that would have made domestic manufacturing economically viable.
While this led to an agricultural boom, long term it halted
Argentine development. The ruling estancieros were untroubled by
this though, most were happy to watch their export revenues and
ground grants roll in, thus by 1900 Argentina entered a relative
GDP per capita peak. Yet this apparent prosperity was profoundly
unequal and dependent on export markets. [/quote]
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Re: Argentina
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 10, 2022, 4:39 pm
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Enemy discussion:
HTML https://vdare.com/posts/argentina-s-great-replacement
[quote]Another 2015 study of 175 Argentines found 67% white, 28%
Amerindian, 3.6% black and 1.4% East Asian.
...
Buenos Aires is culturally highly European (e.g., we attended a
performance of Mussorgsky’s Boris Godunov at the famous Teatro
Colon opera house).[/quote]
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg15481/#msg15481
Continuing:
[quote]I have the vague impression that Argentina has gotten
more mestizo since then due to immigration from poorer South
American countries such as Bolivia and Paraguay.
So, Argentina is kind of like Mexico, only less Amerinidian.
Mexico still have distinctly indio populations who speak Indian
languages and wear Indian clothes. In contrast, practically
everybody in rural Argentina speaks Spanish and wears European
clothes.
...
it’s hard to find much about Argentina Indians. Mexico has been
fairly solicitous intellectually of its indios since the
Revolution, with the government devoting a lot to training
anthropologists, restoring their mighty pyramids, and building
impressive ethnographic museums as part of the national ideology
of la raza cosmica. But Argentina hasn’t showed much interest in
their own Indians
...
White Argentine leaders such as Domingo Faustino Sarmiento,
ex-president of Argentina (1868-1874), crafted a different
narrative to erase Blackness because they equated modernity with
whiteness. Sarmiento wrote “Facundo: Civilization and Barbarism”
(1845), which detailed Argentina’s “backwardness” and what he
and others perceived as the need to become “civilized.” He was
among those who shared a vision for the nation that associated
it more strongly with European, rather than African or
Amerindian, heritage.
...
With its history of slavery behind it, Argentina’s leaders
focused on modernization, looking to Europe as the cradle of
civilization and progress. They believed that to join the ranks
of Germany, France and England, Argentina had to displace its
Black population — both physically and culturally.
In many ways, this was not unique to Argentina. This
whitening process was attempted throughout much of Latin
America, in places such as Brazil, Uruguay and Cuba.
What makes Argentina’s story unique in this context,
however, is that it was successful in its push to build its
image as a White country.
For example, in the 1850s, the political philosopher and
diplomat Juan Bautista Alberdi, who was perhaps best known for
his saying “to govern is to populate,” promoted White European
immigration to the country. Argentine president Justo José de
Urquiza (1854-60) supported Alberdi’s ideas and incorporated
them in the country’s first constitution. Amendment 25 clearly
stated: “The federal government shall foster European
immigration.”
...
In fact, ex-president Sarmiento remarked toward the end of the
19th century: “Twenty years hence, it will be necessary to
travel to Brazil to see Blacks.” He knew that Black Argentines
existed but suggested that the country would not recognize them
for long. Argentina’s landscape was soon transformed, as 4
million European immigrants answered the government’s call to
migrate between 1860 and 1914. That clause remains in
Argentina’s constitution today.
...
Morocho, an inoffensive label, continues to be used in Argentina
today. This term, which references those who are “tan-colored,”
has been used as a way of distinguishing non-White
people.[/quote]
Recall additionally:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/hezbollah/msg5090/#msg5090
[quote]
www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15029/argentina-designates-hezbollah
[quote]Argentina Designates Hezbollah a Terror Group
...
The public registry is a historical landmark containing over
1,000 entries of individuals and entities tied to terrorism in
Argentina, including Hezbollah.
...
Just a day after the registry was created, the Financial
Intelligence Unit of Argentina (UIF-AR), led by Mariano
Federici, ordered the country-wide freeze on Hezbollah's assets
in our country.
Before this executive action by President Macri, Hezbollah
was not officially recognized [as a terrorist organization] in
Argentina. If someone wanted to raise their flag, they would
have been able to do so. Previously, the only people in
Argentina labeled as terrorists were those considered terrorists
by the U.N. Security Council.[/quote]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Argentina
[quote]The Jewish population in Argentina is the largest in
Latin America, the third largest in the Americas, and the
world's seventh largest outside Israel.[/quote][/quote]
After Bolivia finishes taking over Chile:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg16912/#msg16912
we should support it taking over Argentina also.
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Re: Argentina
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 22, 2022, 6:21 pm
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HTML https://twitter.com/RR_Neanderthal/status/1604945677540270102
[quote]The political angle to this world cup is almost parodic
lol
"The all white team suspiciously descended from Germans are all
Catholic and only eat high quality meat"
It's like if twitter invented a soccer team
HTML https://twitter.com/ArgenFao/status/1604591946650877952
[quote]Our world champions have been grown eating healthy animal
protein-based diets! Argentine meat, sustainable meat. Thanks to
our animal farmers, thanks to our champions!
[img]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkSn3NBXgAAvA-a?format=jpg&name=900x900[/img]
[/quote][/quote]
HTML https://twitter.com/BongoIdeas/status/1604401465555968002
[quote]If you know the level of hāte Argentinians have for
Błacks, you wouldn’t be rooting for Messi to win the World
Cup.
They have no błack player, they view Latįnos as
inferiors, they staged genøcide against B!acks, they’re super
racïsts.
Read Full Thread[/quote]
HTML https://twitter.com/lilirutai/status/1604566616548823043
[quote]Proof that Hungary is a meme, vol.5638
Fidesz politician congratulates Argentina: “A white, Christian
country representing European values became the world
champion.”[/quote]
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Re: Argentina
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 21, 2023, 5:10 pm
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Eurocentrist Xi being Eurocentrist Xi:
HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-backs-argentinas-falklands-claim-093000196.html
[quote]China backs Argentina's Falklands claim, calls for end to
'colonial thinking'[/quote]
HTML https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png
This is the country Eurocentrist Xi supports:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Argentina#%22White-European%22_racism_and_Article_25_of_the_Constitution
[quote]In Argentina, an extensive racist ideology has been built
on the notion of European supremacy.[30] This ideology forwards
the idea that Argentina is a country populated by European
immigrants bajados de los barcos (straight off the boat),
frequently referred to as "our grandfathers", who founded a
special type of "white" and European society that is not
Latin-American.[31] In addition, this ideology holds forth that
cultural influences from other communities such as the
Aborigines, Africans, fellow Latin-Americans, or Asians are not
relevant and even undesirable.
White-European racism in Argentina has a history of government
participation. The ideology even has a legal foundation that was
set forth in Article 25 of the National Constitution sponsored
by Juan Bautista Alberdi. The article establishes a difference
between European immigration (which should be encouraged) and
non-European immigration.
Article 25: The Federal Government will encourage European
immigration; and will not restrict, limit, nor tax the entry of
any foreigner into the territory of Argentina who comes with the
goal of working the land, bettering industry, or introducing or
teaching sciences or the arts.
Constitution of Argentina
Alberdi, the article's sponsor and the father of the Argentine
Constitution of 1853, explained in his own words the basis for
White-European discrimination:
If you were to put the roto (literally "broken"), the gaucho,
the cholo, the basic element of our popular masses, through the
finest educational system; in one hundred years you would not
make him an English worker who works, consumes, and lives
comfortably and in a dignified manner.
Juan B. Alberdi[32]
The discrimination between European and non-European immigration
established by Article 25 of the Constitution has survived all
subsequent constitutional reforms (1860, 1868, 1898, 1949, 1957,
1972 and 1994).
Alberdi claimed that the "races which could improve the species"
in Argentina where those that originated from Northwestern
Europe, chiefly England and France. Alberdi was of Basque
descent and as such carried a special grudge towards Spain where
Basques were often an oppressed minority. Alberdi was also very
partial to France where he spent much of his life in exile and
where he died in 1884. In this way, despite the predominantly
Hispanic, Mediterranean, Latin, and Catholic culture of
Argentina, Alberti proposed a semi-nordicist policy somewhat
similar to the later White Australia policy and the United
States Immigration Act of 1924.
...
To govern is to populate in the sense that to populate is to
educate, to better, to civilize, to enrich and enlarge
spontaneously and rapidly, like what has happened in the United
States. In order to civilize by means of the populace it is
essential to do it with civilized populations; in order to
educate our America in liberty and in industry it is essential
to populate it with people from Europe who are more advanced in
the matters of liberty and industry... there are foreigners and
there are foreigners; and if Europe is the most civilized land
on the planet, there is in Europe and in the heart of its
brilliant capitals, more millions of savages than in all of
South America. All that is civilized is European, at the very
least in origin, but not all that is European is civilized; and
it is easy to imagine the scenario of a new country populated by
Europeans more ignorant of industry and liberty than the hordes
of the Pampas or the Chaco.
Juan B. Alberdi[34][/quote]
over this country:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/statue-decolonization/msg6/#msg6
[quote][quote]A group called Topple the Racists want statues
across Britain removed and street names changed.
Theirlist includes some of Britain’s most famous historical
figures including King James II, Oliver Cromwell and Christopher
Columbus.
Thegroup said: “We believe these statues and other memorials to
slave-owners and colonialists need to be removed so that Britain
can finally face the truth about its past – and how it shapes
our present.
...
“We must learn from, not venerate, this terrible chapter in
British colonial history.”[/quote]
...
HTML https://www.toppletheracists.org/[/quote]
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Re: Argentina
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 19, 2023, 3:44 am
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In return, this is what happens:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/argentina-milei-says-d-reject-024017375.html
[quote]Argentina Presidential Frontrunner Calls China an
‘Assassin’
(Bloomberg) -- Argentina’s presidential frontrunner Javier Milei
would freeze relations with China and pull South America’s
second-biggest economy out of the Mercosur trade bloc with
Brazil, foreign policy proposals that are as radical as his
economics.
...
It’s not the first time a prominent Argentine politician has
insulted China: In 2015, then-President Cristina Fernández de
Kirchner caused a furor by mocking the Chinese accent in a
tweet. Her comments came while she was on a state visit to China
seeking investment.[/quote]
Will Eurocentrist Xi ever learn?
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/economic-entanglement-and-systemic-rivalry-germany-and-china-at-a-crossroads/msg19365/#msg19365
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Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
By: antihellenistic Date: August 22, 2023, 12:47 am
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Re: State subverters
By: Wow Date: November 19, 2023, 8:47 pm
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Wow:
Far-right outsider Javier Milei wins Argentina’s presidency
[quote]Javier Milei has won Argentina’s presidential elections
in provisional results, wrenching his country to the right with
a bombastic anti-establishment campaign that drew comparisons to
former US President Donald Trump – all against the backdrop of
one of the world’s highest inflation rates.
His rival Sergio Massa conceded the run-off vote on Sunday
evening in a brief speech even before official results were
announced. “Milei is the president elected for the next 4
years,” said Massa, adding that he had already called Milei to
congratulate him.
Provisional results so far show Milei with over 55% of votes
(13,781,154) with more than 94% of votes counted, according to
data from the country’s National Electoral Chamber, which has
not yet declared an official winner.
Milei’s victory marks an extraordinary rise for the former TV
pundit, who entered the race as a political outsider on a
promise to “break up with the status quo” – exemplified by
Sergio Massa.
His campaign promise to dollarize Argentina, if enacted, is
expected to thrust the country into new territory: no country of
Argentina’s size has previously turned over the reins of its own
monetary policy to Washington decisionmakers.
...
Similarities to Trump have not gone unnoticed in the United
States as it prepares for its own presidential elections. Milei
succeeded in attracting attention at home not only because of
his political style – including wielding chainsaws and raging
outbursts – but also because of the novelty of his positions and
eagerness to upset the status quo.
Echoing the Trumpian slogan, ‘Drain the swamp’, Milei’s
supporters shout “¡¡Qué se vayan todos!!” which translates as
“May they all leave!” – an expression of fury at politicians
from both sides of the spectrum. Argentina’s left is currently
in government, following rule by the right from 2015 to 2019.
Outside of his controversial plan for dollarization, Milei’s
political program includes slashing regulations on gun control
and transferring authority over the penitentiary system from
civilians to the military; both measures part of a
tough-on-crime approach. He proposes using public funds to
support families who choose to educate their children privately
and even privatizing the health sector, which in Argentina has
always been in public hands.
Several outspoken comments landed Milei in hot water, without
deterring his most ardent supporters. He triggered an uproar
when it appeared Milei was in favor of opening a market for
organ transplants, although he later retracted his declarations.
He was similarly forced to apologize after calling Pope Francis,
who is from Argentina and is seen as an icon of progressive
politics in South America, “an envoy of Satan” in 2017.
...[/quote]
Entire article:
HTML https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/19/world/argentina-vote-milei-massa-nov-19/index.html
Face:
[img width=1280
height=960]
HTML https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/AP23226116474748-1692006104.jpg?resize=1920%2C1440[/img]
Apparently that's what "draining the swamp" looks and sounds
like to rightist Argentinians as well... ::) :o
Why is it the swamp monsters always want to "drain the swamp"?
That's the part I'm having a hard time understanding.
HTML https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/05/70/44/62/360_F_570446280_h0ArWZQzpCEu1Z8pv5us8Hbi8RfbKYjC.jpg
"I'm here to drain the swamp!"
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Re: Argentina
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 19, 2023, 9:05 pm
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More about Milei:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Milei
[quote]Milei supports former Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro
and former United States president Donald Trump
...
Milei endorses the Madrid Charter, a document drafted by Vox
that characterizes left-wing groups, such as the São Paulo Forum
and the Puebla Group, as enemies of Ibero-America and accuses
them of engaging in "a criminal project under the umbrella of
the Cuban regime" that "seeks to destabilize liberal democracies
and the state of law".[253][254][255] He signed the document
alongside other far-right politicians across the region,
including Eduardo Bolsonaro from Brazil, Rafael López Aliaga
from Peru, and José Antonio Kast from Chile.[255] On foreign
policy, he stated that the United States and Israel would be his
primary allies if elected president. He also expressed his
intention to relocate the Argentine embassy in Israel from Tel
Aviv to Jerusalem.[256][257]
...
In May 2022, he stated: "I will not be apologizing for having a
penis. I don't have to feel ashamed of being a man, white, blond
with light blue eyes."[152]
...
He also reads the Torah daily and has visited the grave of
Orthodox rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. Milei expressed
contemplation about converting to Judaism but said that
observing the Jewish Sabbath could pose challenges if he were to
become president.[264][/quote]
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Re: Argentina
By: rp Date: November 23, 2023, 11:14 pm
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Not parody:
[img width=998
height=1280]
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