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Re: Western Democracy
By: antihellenistic Date: August 9, 2023, 7:16 am
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Re: Communism
By: antihellenistic Date: August 26, 2023, 12:15 am
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: SirGalahad Date: August 26, 2023, 12:55 am
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Literally none of the countries he listed are socialist
countries. I hate when people bring up Scandinavia in this
context, because it’s so common for people to do, and it’s so
intellectually dishonest. Social democracies like the ones he’s
bringing up are still capitalist. He didn’t even have to stoop
to making this bad comparison for him to make his point, even if
I obviously oppose what his point is insinuating. So that makes
it even more annoying
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 31, 2023, 11:28 pm
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HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/ice-sends-deportation-flight-haiti-150923829.html
[quote]ICE sends deportation flight to Haiti after warning US
citizens to evacuate
...
“Those two cannot happen at the same time. You cannot be
evacuating people and deporting people at the same time. That is
beyond inhumane. It is definitely a violation against human
rights,” said Guerline Jozef, executive director of the Haitian
Bridge Alliance.
...
On July 27, the State Department issued a “do not travel” notice
for Haiti
...
On Aug. 2, ICE repatriated 55 people to Haiti.
On Wednesday, the State Department escalated its warning on
conditions in Haiti, calling on all U.S. nationals to leave the
country “as soon as possible via commercial or private
transport,” just hours before Thursday’s removal flight.[/quote]
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/ice/
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 20, 2023, 11:15 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFqeDswqG4c
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 21, 2023, 2:12 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/giorgia-meloni-european-left-leaving-140526520.html
[quote]Europe at mercy of migrant waves thanks to the Left, says
Giorgia Meloni[/quote]
Even just the headline gives away her ingroup.
[quote]“The whole of Europe, the whole EU, may become Lampedusa
if we continue to commit the same old mistakes, the scheme and
mechanisms that the Commission proposed,” said Mateusz
Morawiecki, the Polish prime minister.[/quote]
Same again. Contrast with:
[quote]Imogen Sudbery, of the International Rescue Committee,
said it was time to recognise that “migration is a fact of
life”.
“Building walls or other barriers will not stop people from
risking their lives in search of protection. While cooperating
with non-EU countries on migration is important, turning
Europe’s neighbours into gatekeepers will not work - it will
only push people into the hands of traffickers and divert them
onto more dangerous routes,” she said.
“The solution lies in a comprehensive system founded on greater
solidarity and responsibility-sharing, with a particular focus
on relocating people away from states on Europe’s borders, and
the opening up of safe pathways to access asylum.”[/quote]
Sudbery also makes the mistake of calling smugglers
"traffickers" (does anyone still remember what actual
traffickers do?), but at least she bothers to describe the
scenario from the perspective of the refugees themselves,
something which is wholly absent from rightist approaches to the
issue.
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 8, 2023, 7:31 pm
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It's OK for immigrant mass murderers to be "white":
HTML https://vdare.com/letters/a-reader-asks-why-we-re-pointing-out-an-immmigrant-mass-murder-committed-by-a-white-immigrant
[quote]I hope you are keeping well. I just read an article on
VDARE, above. May I ask why you decided to publish this article
which seemingly implies a connection between crime and
immigration from a white European country like Italy? While I
fully agree with VDARE’s many articles which link crime,
especially violent crime, with non-whites, particularly
foreign-born non-whites, I am perplexed as to how this
overarching theme on VDARE applies to the case of Francesco
Villi, a white man, who immigrated to Canada from a majority
white European country.[/quote]
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 10, 2023, 9:52 pm
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Our enemies think a story about racist parental tyranny is a
story about:
HTML https://www.amren.com/features/2023/11/interracial-adoption-destroys-a-family/
Firstly, let's note the author:
[quote]Anastasia Katz, American Renaissance, November 10,
2023[/quote]
With that out of the way, the parent looks like what we would
expect:
[quote]
HTML https://www.amren.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/FerriterAtTrial.jpg[/quote]
Here is how Katz begins the article:
[quote]On October 3, a trial began in Florida. Tim Ferriter, a
white man, was charged with aggravated child abuse, false
imprisonment, and neglect of a child.[/quote]
as if the fact that a "white" man is facing charges is the
problem. Because it should be OK for parents to be "white".
So, what kind of a parent is Ferriter?
[quote]The Ferriters have four children, two adopted and two of
their own. The oldest is a girl, adopted from China. The next
oldest is a boy, adopted from Vietnam. He is the only child Mr.
Ferriter was accused of abusing. Since he is a minor, I refer to
him only by initials, “RF.” His face was hidden when this trial
was televised. The Ferriters’ two youngest children, a girl and
a boy, are biological.[/quote]
What we are looking at is instinctive ethnotribalism: Ferriter
perceives the "non-white" male child as a potential genetic
competitor to his own patrilineal bloodline. The same psychology
underlies why rightist anti-refugee propaganda always focuses on
the young male refugees:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4PBDgx1cSo
Continuing:
[quote]The police went to the Ferriter home and saw that RF had
an unusual bedroom. It was an 8-foot by 8-foot windowless “box”
in the garage, with a door that locked from the outside. Inside,
there was a mattress and box spring, a desk, and a bucket. The
room had an air conditioning unit. A Ring security camera was in
a corner of the room, near the ceiling.
...
I will call the oldest Ferriter child, adopted from China, “FF”
because she is under 18. She is two years older than RF. She
told the jury about the years the family lived in Tucson. At
first, before the youngest child was born, each of the three
children had his own room. RF was not confined at first, but
later, his parents put a latch on the outside of his door, so
they could shut him in. After their youngest child was born, Mr.
and Mrs. Ferriter built a room for RF in the garage. This room
had no windows and it locked from the outside. FF said the room
smelled bad because her brother “peed in there.” RF’s bedroom
was in the garage for two years before the family moved back to
Florida, where they built another garage room.[/quote]
RF is perceived as a bigger patrilineal genetic competitor the
closer he gets to puberty.
[quote]She saw her father grab him and drag him into the garage
room. She heard her father yell at him, and she heard hitting
noises. She said she feared her father would accidentally kill
her brother. “At the time, I didn’t have a name for what was
happening to him,” FF said, “But I do now: abuse.”
Mr. Ferriter’s defense lawyer claimed in opening statements that
RF was locked in his room to protect the other children, but FF
testified that she never felt afraid of RF[/quote]
True to "white" form, Ferriter is projecting his own fear onto
the other children.
[quote]FF said RF was treated very differently from the other
children. Her parents wouldn’t let him have the sugary snacks
the other kids ate. When they moved to Florida, RF had to do
yard work that she did not have to do, and RF was locked out of
the house until his work was finished. RF received more severe
punishments than she did, and she was never locked in her room.
The older sister said she rarely ate meals with RF because he
ate in his room. Sometimes everyone in the family went somewhere
together, for example, to hear her band perform. RF stayed home,
locked in his room. She noticed that RF was becoming more
withdrawn and smiled less.
FF told the jury that her brother ran away once, and when he
came home, their parents locked him out for a while. They did
not let her open the door to let him back in.
...
RF said he was in 8th grade when the family moved to Florida.
Each of the other children had his own room in the new house,
but RF’s bedroom was an 8-foot by 8-foot room in the garage. He
knew that his father hired a contractor to build the room,
explaining, “I was kept in the closet and I overheard their
conversation of having to build it.”
The teenager testified that the floor was concrete, with some
mats on it, “so it wasn’t so hard.” His bed was a mattress on
the floor. The room had no windows. There was an air conditioner
that his parents controlled; he was not allowed to turn it on or
off by himself. The room had a light, but the switch was outside
the room, so he could not turn it on or off. He said he was
sometimes locked in the room during the day “for a couple of
hours” with the light off. RF said when the light was off, the
room was “pitch black” and he had to feel his way around.
The door had a lock and a deadbolt on the outside. RF said that
most of the time he was inside the room, he was locked in. His
parents installed a Ring camera so they could watch him and talk
to him from other parts of the house.
If he needed to use the bathroom when he was locked in the room,
he used a bucket. In Florida, he used the bucket only to
urinate, but when he lived in a similar room in Arizona, he used
a bucket to defecate also. RF said the room smelled “putrid”
after he used the bucket.
Sometimes he was locked in with nothing to drink. “I received
water occasionally, but not on a regular basis.” He ate most of
his meals in the room. If he got hungry while locked in, he had
no way to get food. He explained that “to me, being locked in a
room, it’s dehumanizing. It’s almost as bad as genocide.” He
said that if he refused to go in, “I was put in the room by
physical force.”
...
RF testified that on school days, Mr. or Mrs. Ferriter woke him
at 6:30 or 7 am. He went outside and emptied the bucket in a way
so that the neighbors would not see. He got dressed for school,
but his clothes were kept outside his room. He said he got
breakfast only about half the time. Breakfast was always peanut
butter on bread and a banana. Sometimes he ate outside the house
and sometimes he ate in his room. He left for middle school at 9
am.
RF brought lunch to school; he wasn’t allowed to buy lunch or
any of the snacks for sale at school. His parents gave him a
peanut butter sandwich, chips, and fruit for lunch.
He got home from school at 3:30 and his parents locked him back
in the room, where he stayed until dinnertime. Sometimes he ate
with the family, but most of the time, he ate in his room. His
parents let him out at 9 pm or 10 pm to go to the bathroom, and
then RF was locked in for the night.
Miss Coakley asked him what he had in the room. “I had my small
selection of toys and just books,” RF answered, saying that his
parents took his toys away and then took his books away until he
was down to only a few textbooks. He was not allowed any
electronics in the room, except for the school laptop he used
for homework, but he did not have this all the time. RF heard
others at school talking about playing games on the school
laptop, but he was never allowed to.
RF testified that there were times when he was let inside the
house to do chores. He sometimes played outside with his
siblings, but most of his outdoor time was spent doing chores,
such as raking leaves. He said there was a Ring camera facing
the backyard, so his parents could watch him. He was not allowed
back inside until his work was finished; he could not go inside
to get a drink or cool off.
Because the charges against Mr. Ferriter were brought by the
state of Florida, Miss Coakley told the jury they should make
their decision based on the events that occurred in Florida, but
she asked RF about his life in Arizona, too. RF’s first room in
Arizona was inside the house. It had a window, a desk, a
dresser, and a normal bed. He also had a coffee table that he
played chess on. At some point, his parents put a lock on the
outside of the door, and began to lock him in. There was no
adjoining bathroom.
RF said he was put in the garage room at age 11, when he was in
fifth grade. The garage room in Arizona had a bed with a box
spring and frame, a desk, and a wall-mounted air conditioner,
which he was not allowed to touch. He also had a bucket. He
estimated that the longest he was locked in the room in Arizona
was about 18 hours. He never knew how often he would be fed.
“Sometimes I got all three meals, sometimes I got one, sometimes
I got two.”
RF said that after they moved back to Florida, his father pushed
and grabbed him, but things were worse when they lived in
Arizona: “I was smacked in the face. He would grab me by the
neck. He would grab my arm.” His father spanked him with a jump
rope or a belt, and “there would be a lot of yelling.” If his
sisters did something wrong, “they would get their phones taken
away for a day or two.”
...
The state called an expert witness, Dr. Wade Myers, a professor
of psychiatry at Brown University. Dr. Myers said Mr. Ferriter’s
treatment of his adopted son was “malicious,” “cruel” and
“sadistic,” that they kept the boy in “solitary confinement,”
which has “detrimental psychological impacts” on children and is
not recommended even for children in juvenile detention. He
added that children in detention have regular meals, access to
bathrooms, a sink with water, and people they can call to for
help. He said locking RF up was “torture.”
...
The state showed the jury videos from the Ring cameras, which
corroborated RF’s testimony. To protect his identity, the videos
were not shown on television, and the audio was sometimes
unintelligible. There was footage of:
RF screaming, talking to himself, and crying.
RF laying mulch in the yard while his parents sat and
watched.
Ferriter lecturing his son in a calm voice.
Ferriter scolding RF for stealing candy, lying, and “having
a bad attitude.”
Ferriter throwing RF onto a bed and putting his hands on the
boy’s neck, before turning off the light and leaving RF alone in
the dark.
Ferriter coming in to wake his son after 10 hours overnight
and saying to RF, “Take out your bucket. Your neighbors don’t
need to see your **** bucket.”
A 12-minute exchange you can listen to here. It’s a long
rant, in which Mr. Ferriter loses his temper, breaks something
in the room to prove his point, and uses foul language. Mr.
Ferriter notices a pretzel on his son’s bed; he tells him to eat
it right away. “You want rats in here, too?!” He suggests that
sometimes RF chooses not to eat.
The video ends with Mr. Ferriter talking to RF about running
away: “You have no **** idea what’s out there. You think you do.
All 14-year-olds, 15-year-olds, these kids you’re around, you
might think you know what’s going on in the world. . . . I’m
not quitting. You’ve got me forever, so deal with that."[/quote]
The last paragraph sounds like what rightists say to us about
trying to decolonize.
Patrilineal genetic competition must be weakened. That is the
subconscious ethnotribalist instinctual imperative. That is
behind everything described in the entire quote above.
Next, cue the ethnonepotism from the judge:
[quote]Judge Howard Coates explained, “It is not a crime for the
parent to impose reasonable physical discipline on a child for
misbehavior . . . even if physical injury resulted from the
discipline.”
...
The judge told the jury it could convict Mr. Ferriter of a
lesser charge, “culpable negligence,” which was defined as
“unintentionally but recklessly causing harm to
another.”[/quote]
Fortunately:
[quote]After deliberating for four hours, the six-person jury
(races unknown) found Tim Ferriter guilty of all charges:
aggravated child abuse, false imprisonment, and neglect of a
child.[/quote]
Ferriter's guilty verdict (and the possibility that he was
convicted by (*gasp*) "non-white" jurors), rather than what
Ferriter did to RF in the first place, is what our enemies
consider to be the travesty in this story:
[quote]Mr. Deborzatti, the couple’s Australian friend, shook his
head and mouthed “I can’t believe it.”[/quote]
This is how utterly oppositionally we and our enemies perceive
the world.
Katz concludes:
[quote]Mr. Ferriter was determined to “not give up” on his son.
Now, he won’t be able to rear his biological children, and they
are living apart from each other and from their mother. White
Americans must understand that their foremost duty is to have
white children and put their own families first.[/quote]
This is the literal closing paragraph of the enemy article! You
cannot make this **** up!
And the depravity continues in the enemy comments:
[quote]The opposite is true for White kids who receive moderate
discipline at an early age which gradually turns mild as they
get older & are granted more social freedom because they can be
trusted to be good honest people without the moral supervision
of their parents since they have internal morals which allows
them to determine what's right & wrong[/quote]
Was Ferriter not once a "white" kid? How did he turn out? I
thought this was already the most ironic comment possible, and
then I read:
[quote]The person I am most disgusted with is the adopted
Chinese girl. After getting a great start in life she backstabs
her White parents.[/quote]
I give up.
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: NarrativeInCrisis Date: November 10, 2023, 10:18 pm
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Ferriter probably won't do well in prison once the other inmates
figure out his charges. He deserves the worst. I hope is death
is slow and painful.
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: rp Date: November 17, 2023, 12:32 am
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=77.msg23593#msg23593
date=1699674743]
What we are looking at is instinctive ethnotribalism: Ferriter
perceives the "non-white" male child as a potential genetic
competitor to his own patrilineal bloodline. The same psychology
underlies why rightist anti-refugee propaganda always focuses on
the young male refugees:[/quote]
HTML https://www.quora.com/What-exactly-is-a-military-age-male-and-why-is-this-term-so-common-when-people-refer-to-refugees/answer/Jan-Meyer-21?ch=10&oid=392458155&share=7fefb3fa&srid=QgAZE&target_type=answer[quote]A<br
/>“military age male”, depending on how much of a bigot the pers
on
in question is, is any boy from the age of 12 (that is the
extreme bigot), 14 (less bigot), 16 or 18 all the way to, again
depending on level of fearmongering and bigotry, 40 or 60.
It refers to the men who would or could be called into service
in case of a war.
It is basically commentators from countries without conscription
trying to shame and demonize people for not having any plans of
dying in a (civil) war.[/quote]
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