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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: rp Date: June 14, 2021, 10:08 pm
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Wow, it appears NS deleted his account after this exchange.
Also, it's impossible to change your avi on Aryanism.net without
the admin's consent, so either you are lying, or you used a
different email address when you posted your recent comments
under the NS username:
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/elon-musk-etc/comment-page-1/#comment-183342<br
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: rp Date: July 3, 2021, 8:35 pm
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Maybe I was too harsh on NS? I didn't mean to hurt his feelings
and drive him off the forum! What do you guys think? Was I too
harsh?
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: SirGalahad Date: July 4, 2021, 8:10 pm
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It looks like the entire exchange that you're referring to is
gone. I don't see any argument going on in the link you posted.
Also, are you referring to guest5 and whatever username he has
over on the blog, or NuminousSun?
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: rp Date: July 4, 2021, 8:15 pm
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The exchange was a few posts ago on this thread. Guest5 was
previously NuminousSun, before he deleted his account. I linked
to the comment because it shows NS does not have a swastika next
to his username on the blog.
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: SirGalahad Date: July 4, 2021, 8:20 pm
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I didn't even notice that NuminousSun wasn't posting here
anymore, since they were already such a prominent poster on here
and the blog. Kind of sad that they're gone, but I will say that
they were acting pretty weird and aggressive in those last few
comments
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 9, 2021, 10:15 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p5gpBMX090
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 2, 2021, 12:02 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPUCXyUAV8s
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 11, 2021, 1:25 am
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Our enemies provide a direct comparison:
HTML https://vdare.com/articles/on-columbus-day-biden-wants-to-replace-the-historic-american-nation-but-it-made-the-world
[quote]Biden also took the occasion of proclaiming the legal
holiday of Columbus Day to attack Christopher Columbus.
...
[quote] Today, we also acknowledge the painful history of
wrongs and atrocities that many European explorers inflicted on
Tribal Nations and Indigenous communities. It is a measure of
our greatness as a Nation that we do not seek to bury these
shameful episodes of our past—that we face them honestly, we
bring them to the light, and we do all we can to address them.
For Native Americans, western exploration ushered in a wave of
devastation: violence perpetrated against Native communities,
displacement and theft of Tribal homelands, the introduction and
spread of disease, and more. On this day, we recognize this
painful past and recommit ourselves to investing in Native
communities, upholding our solemn and sacred commitments to
Tribal sovereignty, and pursuing a brighter future centered on
dignity, respect, justice, and opportunity for all people.
A Proclamation on Columbus Day, 2021, October 8,
2021[/quote]
In contrast, see President Trump’s 2020 Columbus Day
Proclamation, which says in part:
[quote] More than 500 years ago, Christopher Columbus's
intrepid voyage to the New World ushered in a new era of
exploration and discovery. His travels led to European contact
with the Americas and, a century later, the first settlements on
the shores of the modern day United States. Today, we celebrate
Columbus Day to commemorate the great Italian who opened a new
chapter in world history and to appreciate his enduring
significance to the Western Hemisphere. …
Sadly, in recent years, radical activists have sought to
undermine Christopher Columbus's legacy. These extremists seek
to replace discussion of his vast contributions with talk of
failings, his discoveries with atrocities, and his achievements
with transgressions. Rather than learn from our history, this
radical ideology and its adherents seek to revise it, deprive it
of any splendor, and mark it as inherently sinister. They seek
to squash any dissent from their orthodoxy. We must not give in
to these tactics or consent to such a bleak view of our history.
We must teach future generations about our storied heritage,
starting with the protection of monuments to our intrepid heroes
like Columbus. This June, I signed an Executive Order to ensure
that any person or group destroying or vandalizing a Federal
monument, memorial, or statue is prosecuted to the fullest
extent of the law. …
On this Columbus Day, we embrace the same optimism that led
Christopher Columbus to discover the New World. We inherit that
optimism, along with the legacy of American heroes who blazed
the trails, settled a continent, tamed the wilderness, and built
the single-greatest nation the world has ever seen.
Proclamation 10100—Columbus Day, 2020, by Donald J. Trump,
45th President of the United States, October 9, 2020[/quote]
[/quote]
My problem with Biden's speech is:
[quote]dignity, respect, justice, and opportunity for all
people.[/quote]
"All people"? So we should also respect Columbus?! If not, then
don't say "all people"! The correct formulation is: "Dignity,
respect and opportunity for all people except those who initiate
violence. Justice for all people."
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 12, 2021, 9:21 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/j-d-vance-empathy-kyle-100512781.html
[quote]If you haven’t been paying attention, you might be
forgiven for mistaking the latest Twitter thread from newly
converted Trump worshipper and flailing Senate candidate J.D.
Vance for a compassionate, if woefully misguided, defense of the
country’s most vulnerable.
“We leave our boys without fathers,” the Hillbilly Elegy writer
and Peter Thiel protege said in a tweet. “We let the wolves set
fire to their communities. And when human nature tells them to
go and defend what no one else is defending, we bring the full
weight of the state and the global monopolists against them.”
Vance could have been empathizing with Black and brown kids in
underserved neighborhoods who, multiple studies show, respond to
the psychological strain of over-policing by acting out. He
could have been emphasizing the humanity of Black parents
disproportionately criminalized by a racist justice system that
takes them away from their children and communities. He could
have been noting that those involved in community uprisings
against police abuse and political repression often face harm
from state-backed agents willing to use any violent means
necessary to disempower them.
But Vance wasn’t talking about any of those people or things. He
was empathizing with Kyle Rittenhouse
...
Vance has no empathy to spare for the Kenosha, Wisconsin,
residents who live with the consistent low-grade terror of
racialized police violence—as manifest in the seven point-blank
shots fired by Officer Rusten Sheskey into Jacob Blake, leaving
him paralyzed, and which catalyzed anti-racist protests in the
city. Those residents, sneers Vance, were “lawless thugs” trying
to destroy Rittenhouse’s “community.” It is a blatant statement
of support for racist foot soldiers and a justification of
whatever violence they inflict.
Rittenhouse crossed state lines with his mother, menacingly
entered a protest crowd wielding an illegal semiautomatic weapon
he thought “looked cool,” shot three men including two from the
community he invaded, and later claimed self-defense despite
being the “only person who killed anyone” among hundreds of
others who were out that night in Kenosha. Hours after entering
entering his not guilty plea, Rittenhouse, who is not old enough
to legally drink without his complicit mom by his side, went to
a bar and took pictures with fascist Proud Boys while flashing
white power symbols and wearing a shirt that read “FREE AS
FUCK.”
...
Hearing right-wing boosters attribute innocence and purity of
motive to Rittenhouse, it’s hard not to recognize how those
things are consistently denied to Black kids. In states where
rightwing perversions of critical race theory have been turned
into bans on the teaching of slavery, anti-Black racism, and the
legacies of white American supremacy, the argument that history
will make victims of white children prevails. The eight states
that now legally prohibit a warped version of CRT in classrooms
are attempting to ban any lesson that might make white kids feel
“discomfort, guilt, anguish and any other form of psychological
distress”—painting white children as the potential victims of
truthful corrections to America’s whitewashed historical memory.
School board members in Virginia are suggesting book-burning and
bookshelves are being purged in Kansas to protect white kids’
inherent innocence.
When CBS asks “How young is too young to learn about racism?”
they must know that Black kids learn firsthand about racism
without being asked if the timing is convenient, a privilege
extended to choosy white parents.
That courtesy is not provided to Black kids who, studies show,
have a “25 percent jump in their likelihood of being diagnosed
with a mental illness” because of racial discrimination. Black
boys, and especially girls, whose suicide rates are currently
increasing—and who now “are about twice as likely to die by
suicide as white children of the same age”—do not get the
benefits of victimhood conferred on their white peers.
The adults like Vance who somehow find a “baby boy” with a
“moral core” in a young white man who needlessly shot three
people, killing two of them, have no capacity for empathy when
it comes to Black kids and young adults.
It’s a lethal blind spot. Isabella Tichenor, a 10-year-old
autistic Black girl so cruelly bullied by her Utah classmates
that she committed suicide, was insufficiently capable of being
seen as a victim by white school officials who reportedly
refused to intervene in response to her pleas.
Black children are far more likely to be punished with expulsion
and suspension by school administrators who too often can only
view them as perpetrators. America’s criminal justice system
disproportionately tries Black kids as adults and sentences them
to time behind bars, while letting kids like Rittenhouse go
free. And study after study finds that Black kids are seen as
angrier by teachers, as less innocent by cops (like the one who
told Rittenhouse he was “appreciated,” later bypassing him after
he’d killed two people), and as incapable of experiencing the
same physical pain as white kids by doctors. The adultification
of Black kids steals any notion of their victimhood away.
The word “victim” is also what three white killers asked a
Georgia court not to use in reference to Ahmaud Arbery, the
young Black jogger they boasted of having “trapped like a rat”
before shooting him dead in the street. But while the judge in
the case rightly rejected that appeal, a seemingly sympathetic
court has agreed to Rittenhouse’s demand that the word “victim”
not be used to describe the people Rittenhouse fatally shot. The
term “looter” was sanctioned instead.
“I think our people hate the right people,” Vance said in a
recent interview. Whether said out of political expediency or
not, the impact of Vance’s words is the same. He is being
transparent about who deserves to be regarded as a full person,
whose basic humanity cannot be questioned, whose decency remains
intact despite their struggles and foibles—and whose does not.
That idea is repeated in the words of Josh Hawley, who while
literally claiming he was not saying men are victims, declared
men victims of modern society; or Paul Gosar, who retweeted a
video of himself killing of a congresswoman of color months
after he called for the head of the officer who shot white
Capitol insurrectionist Ashli Babbitt; or Tucker Carlson, who
once suggested George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Jacob Black
deserved what they got, but remains adamant in his defense of a
white kid who killed two people.
These people are just saying the quiet part out loud—louder and
louder, and again and again.[/quote]
We previously covered Vance here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/old-content/msg7380/#msg7380
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 7, 2021, 8:25 pm
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A quick reminder of the extent of our enemies' double-standards:
HTML https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1352402/
[quote]If Kyle Rittenhouse is an example of white privilege,
then Ahmaud Arbery is an example of black privilege since those
white people weren't acquitted.[/quote]
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