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Re: Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed
By: Zea_mays Date: August 13, 2021, 6:25 pm
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[quote]From my experience, many of the "Out of India" theorists
only promote the idea that the Indo-European languages are
indigienous because they have an affinity for Sanskrit since
most of the classical era Indian texts were written in that
language. Hence, they cannot be called tribalists as they do not
explicitly promote Turanism.[/quote]
The problem is, the Out of India theory may have been
academically valid 100 years ago, with what little information
was available at the time. But the archaeological, linguistic,
and genetic data we have today overwhelmingly supports the
Kurgan hypothesis of Indo-European language dispersal, Turanian
genetic dispersal, and dispersal of cultural/material items
uncovered by archaeological discoveries.
Therefore, people who continue to support Out of India despite
overwhelming evidence against it can only be said to be
propagandists trying to promote a pro-Vedic (i.e. pro-Turanian)
narrative. The importance they place on the the Sanskrit
language and their Vedic ancestors is so massive that they are
willing to ignore all the evidence which diminishes
Vedic-centric models of history. Maybe most of the people who
believe this theory are simply unaware of the archaeological
data, but the people who develop it and promote it are certainly
tribalists.
This is just the same as how Nordicists are propagandists trying
to promote a specific narrative inflating the importance of
their Gentile (Paleolithic hunter) or Turanian ("Indo-European")
ancestors, despite the archaeological and genetic data
contradicting most of their core claims regarding the
"advancements" or "uniqueness" of their tribe.
[quote]It is indeed possible that some of the Indo-European
languages did not wholly originate in the steppe, as evidenced
by the presence of Aryan vocabulary (most notably the word
"Aryan" itself) in those languages, but rather that these
languages are the result of an Aryan vocabulary being infused
into a PIE (Turanian) base.[/quote]
Well, as I mention in this post, loanwords for agricultural
terminology (picked up from BMAC or the Harappan civilization)
would just further prove the Indo-European language came from
the steppe and picked these words up as it spread toward
agricultural societies.
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Re: Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 13, 2021, 10:47 pm
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"propagandists trying to promote a pro-Vedic (i.e. pro-Turanian)
narrative."
Did you see this moron?
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Re: Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed
By: rp Date: January 22, 2023, 6:10 am
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"Did you see this moron?"
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Alexander's Cartographer
@cartographer_s
The Buddha as well
His name Sakyamuni means "Sage of the Saka"
The Saka were an Iranic nomadic people, very similar to the
Scythians
Like the Turks & Mongols later in history, Saka tribes conquered
northern India
The Buddha was likely a descendant of these conquerors
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Re: Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed
By: rp Date: January 22, 2023, 6:16 am
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Sons of the Indus: The Indians
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Re: Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 22, 2023, 5:26 pm
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[quote]Alexander's Cartographer[/quote]
At least among the replies we have this guy calling out the
bullshit:
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which is roughly similar to what I said:
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[quote]Sons of the Indus: The Indians[/quote]
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This is why we should not write off North Indian (including
Pakistani) blood. Yes, they are more Turanian, but the tradeoff
is that they are less Gentile. Most importantly, they are not
less Aryan. With skillful state control over reproduction, it
should be just as feasible to start with a North
Indian/Pakistani gene pool and repurify them into Aryans as
doing the same starting with a South Indian gene pool.
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Re: Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed
By: rp Date: January 22, 2023, 7:42 pm
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"more Turanian"
This explains why the average North Indian phenotype is
robust/tall/sharp features (which is endlessly praised by HBD
idiots) while the average South Indian phenotype is short/round
face/soft features.
Of course, Aryan phenotypes can exist in both populations, as it
is possible for someone to be tall, but long-limbed as opposed
to long torso. Same goes for those who are short. Similarly, one
can have soft features but an Aryan skull.
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Re: Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed
By: rp Date: January 22, 2023, 11:54 pm
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Another benefit is that Indian clans (jatis) are endogamous.
This will allow us to identify not only individuals of Aryan
blood but also clans, which is highly advantageous IMO.
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Re: Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed
By: rp Date: January 28, 2023, 11:14 am
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I just remembered this map:
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Note how in both the North and South, vegetarianism is more
popular in the Western states than in the Eastern states (except
for Northeast Assam). This makes sense considering we know that
Aryan blood came from the Northwest, and dispersed across the
subcontinent in the Southern and Eastern directions. However, if
we consider the possibility that the further the Aryans
dispersed, the more diluted their blood became, it is only
logical that the Northern-Central/Southern Eastern states would
become more diluted, as they are the furthest distance from the
Northwest (since the migrants would have to travel both South
and East, as opposed to just one direction). This dilution could
be attributed to Turanian blood in the Northern-Central states
and Gentile blood in the Southern states.
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Re: Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 28, 2023, 5:38 pm
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"This dilution could be attributed to Turanian blood in the
Northern-Central states and Gentile blood in the Southern
states."
I agree. Let's also repost this map here:
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Re: Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed
By: rp Date: February 1, 2023, 1:28 am
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[quote]Genetic distances to the Indus Valley Civilization. Tamil
Brahmins (Iyer) are the closest population to it, followed by
Gujaratis and some Punjabis
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