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       Re: The Curse of Ham, or Hamitic Myth
       By: guest98 Date: December 24, 2022, 12:38 pm
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       Since jews are jewish and "whites" are, for the most part
       judeo-christians, then jews and "whites" can be considered as
       spiritual cousins.
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       Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
       By: antihellenistic Date: January 29, 2023, 2:35 am
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       Debate with Judaic-Christian apologist
       I'm as Diktatur Abdul, the opponents is square enix*nix#3483
       Part 1
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       Conclusion, he cannot answer the reason on how people in the
       past for hundreds of years using Curse of Ham verses as
       justification on racial-discriminative attitude to the
       "dark-skinned" people
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       Re: The Curse of Ham, or Hamitic Myth
       By: antihellenistic Date: March 8, 2023, 9:33 pm
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       Historically, pre-Islamic Western ideas corrupting Islamic
       people
       See the sentences which given bold by red, black, and blue color
       if don't have time to read
       [quote]The favored treatment of mamluks is especially important
       because of the direction that the institution of slavery took in
       Islamic countries beginning roughly in the eight century. The
       legitimist impulse all but collapsed.43 Muslim patriarchs were,
       therefore, inhibited by few legal restrictions or social taboos
       in their paternalistic management of slaves, a development that
       resulted in hundreds of thousands of people, made captives by
       the wars of conquest, passing completely through the institution
       in about three generations to become fully integrated into
       Islamic society. Thus, Muslim slavery had few parallels in the
       degree of its paternalism. The "scandalous paradox" was
       everywhere in evidence as sons of slave mothers became sultans
       who governed through slave administrators, whose courts were
       protected by elite guards, entertained by highly trained
       musicians and dancers, all of whom were slaves. Though their
       servile status was more and enjoyed a splendid life style.44
       Under the Fatimid caliphate of the tenth and eleventh centuries,
       for example, mamluks of mostly Turkic or Slavic origin
       administered Egypt and other countries of the Near East and
       North Africa.
       Black slaves, or 'abid, however, were less expensive and
       consequently more expendable. Ten of thousands of black
       Africans, for example, labored on land reclamation projects in
       Iraq. Blacks were also used in the copper and salt mines of the
       Sahara. Wherever the work was demanding and the conditions
       harsh, black slaves were likely to be found.45 Furthermore, when
       slaves were emancipated, the old line of racial stratification
       that divided the servile population into mamluks and 'abid
       continued to affect their status as freedmen. Because of the
       almost unparalleled paternalism of Muslim slavery, patriarchs
       showed a marked tendency to assimilate fresh captives to Islamic
       culture, convert them, and later emancipate them.46 Although
       creating demand for freshly captured pagans, this process also
       produced a continuous growth of the freedman population. But
       blacks fared more poorly than whites as freedmen just as they
       had as slaves. Even the term 'abid still clung to them in
       freedom, linking them to the lowest stratum of the servile
       population. Behind this linguistic tie lay the reality that they
       had moved from the lowest stratum of the servile population to a
       corresponding position in free society. And 'abid no longer
       denoted their legal status; instead it identified their race. By
       the ninth century, therefore, the process of enslaving,
       assimilating, converting, and freeing Negroes had, in a series
       of Muslim cities from Andalusia to Persia, created a class of
       blacks who, though legally free, still worked as butchers, bath
       attendants, and the like, who still toiled in lowly occupations
       similar to those they had pursued as slaves.47 Emancipation did
       not dramatically change what one saw blacks doing ; in popular
       usage they were still 'abid, "slaves."
       Despite the general polarization of Muslim society into
       low-status blacks and high-status whites, no clearly defined
       color bar emerged. Muslim countries have, therefore, produced
       some notable examples of the overlapping of racial status
       groups. Tenth-century Egypt, for instance, had a de facto black
       ruler. In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, an elite
       guard of blacks held the balance of power in Morocco; two
       centuries later it was ruled by Sultan Mulay Hassan, whose
       mother was black.48 One of the most spectacular examples of
       black upward nobility is that of Kizlar Agasi Beshir
       (1650-1746), an Abyssinian eunuch purchased for thirty piasters,
       the price of a first-rate donkey, but who prospered
       unbelieveably during his long tenure as Ottoman secretary of the
       treasury. By the time of his death, he had amassed a vast
       fortune and had founded the Mosque of Aga in Istanbul as well as
       a number of schools and a public library.49
       Muslim racial attitudes reflect the ambivalence of the system of
       color stratification in Islamic society, with its inconsistency,
       at times its seeming lack of color prejudice. Significantly in
       this respect, a body of Muslim literature emerged that treated
       blacks sympathetically or defended them against their
       detractors.50 Nevertheless, Muslims lived in a racially
       stratified society. If they, unlike people in later
       English-speaking stratified societies, had no clearly defined
       color bar, if they were correspondingly less disturbed by the
       occasional appearance of a high-status black, such violations of
       the prevailing pigmentocracy, or light-skinned dominance, did
       not happen often enough to discredit the assumption most people
       made about skin color and status : light meant superiority, dark
       meant debasement.51
       Muslim attitudes toward blacks were mixed, but amid their
       ambivalence one can detect here and there most of those notions
       making up that cluster of ideas we recognize as modern Western
       racial prejudice. As Negroes came to occupy the bottom strata of
       both free and servile society and as the term 'abid came in
       popular usage to identify a race rather than a legal class,
       Muslims came to attach to blacks those ideas that Old World
       peoples had traditionally attached to slaves regardless of their
       origin. Negroes were thus stereotyped as lazy, lecherous, and
       prone to lie and steal. And, when humans are treated as
       domesticated animals, they are sometimes regarded as animallike.
       Thus, as the ancients occasionally denied the humanity of
       slaves, so could Ibn Khaldun, a historian of western Islam,
       write that "the only people who accept slavery are the Negroes,
       owing to their low degree of humanity and their proximity to the
       animal stage."52 But not very intelligent animals, a Persian
       writer thought : "Many have seen that the ape is more capable of
       being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent." A
       thirteenth-century Moroccan asserted that the blacks had another
       quality that seemed to make them especially suited to the
       debased status that his society generally accorded to them. They
       were "the most stinking of mankind in the armpits and sweat."53
       And, according to a popular work on slave buying, blacks were
       "fickle and careless. Dancing and beating time are engrained in
       their nature. They say : were the negro to fall from heaven to
       the earth he would beat time falling."54 Thus the most important
       ideas justifying white dominance had been current in the
       racially stratified lands of the Medditeranean for several
       centuries before the northwest Europeans bought their first
       Negro slaves.
       Though Muslims held many disconnected ideas and value judgments
       that lent stability to a previously evolved pattern of
       pigmentocracy, the closest they had to a theory of race
       relations remained the ancient Hamitic myth. During the first
       century of Islam, the "sons of Ham" had begun their migration to
       Bilad al-Sudan, the land of the blacks; but within their ranks
       were still a number of light-skinned peoples. Thus, the myth
       justified slavery more than white superiority, as it had done
       since early in the first millenium B.C.
       ...[/quote]
       Source :
       Evans, W. M. (1980). From the Land of Canaan to the Land of
       Guinea: The Strange Odyssey of the “Sons of Ham.” The American
       Historical Review, 85(1), 15–43.
  HTML https://doi.org/10.2307/1853423<br
       />(page 30 until 32)
       History of the Behavior of Islamic Society in the Caliphate
       In the history of the Caliphate we must accept the fact that
       Muslim society at that time also had racial discrimination
       against black people. Before feeling disappointed and hating the
       khilafah because of the depravity of its people's behavior, we
       need to know what is the cause of this societal attitude.
       According to research from professors of historians from the
       West, the attitude of racial discrimination committed by Muslims
       during the era of the caliphate government was due to the fact
       that there were still people who followed teachings that existed
       before Islam came, namely the teachings of the Myth of Ham. This
       teaching was followed by Jews and Christians and made Arab,
       Middle Eastern, Persian and "North African" people behave racist
       towards "black" people. In Islamic teachings all human beings
       are brothers and there is no command to discriminate between
       people just because they have "dark skin".
       Islamic scientists such as Ibn Khaldun were also influenced by
       this understanding of racism, which does not come from Islamic
       teachings. Even though there was an attitude of racism from the
       Islamic community in the caliphate government, their attitude
       did not become an official rule of society, it was proven that
       there were still "black" people who became high-ranking
       officials. It was even recorded that the financial secretariat
       of the Ottoman Turkish Caliphate was occupied by "black" people.
       ". Even though most of them still work in menial jobs or
       low-paid jobs, they can still be free from slavery and can
       become high-class workers. In contrast to Christians and Jews,
       especially those from Europe who enslaved them and did not give
       them freedom until the 20th century (Around the 1960s).
       Conclusion :
       The history of racism in the Khilafah Daulah is not due to the
       enforcement of Islamic law. But because of the ancient
       understanding of the Curse of Ham from Judaism and Christianity
       which is still followed by some people in the caliphate society.
       Of course, people with dark skin mostly hate teachings that
       teach racism. Why follow teachings that demean us just because
       we are dark skinned.
       1. Whitford, D.M. (2009). The Curse of Ham in the Early Modern
       Era: The Bible and the Justifications for Slavery (1st ed.).
       Routledge.
  HTML https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315240367
       2. John B. Boles, STEPHEN R. HAYNES. Noah's Curse: The Biblical
       Justification of American Slavery. (Religion in America Series.)
       New York: Oxford University Press. 2002. Pp. xiv, 322. $29.95,
       The American Historical Review, Volume 108, Issue 4, October
       2003, Pages 1150–1151,
       3. Braude, B. (1997). The Sons of Noah and the Construction of
       Ethnic and Geographical Identities in the Medieval and Early
       Modern Periods. The William and Mary Quarterly, 54(1), 103–142.
  HTML https://doi.org/10.2307/2953314
       4. Goldenberg, D.M. 2009. The Curse of Ham: Race and Slavery in
       Early Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Princeton University
       Press.
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       5. Fredrickson, George M. 2002. Racism: A Short History. New
       Jersey: Princeton University Press. Hlm. 43, 44, 45.
  HTML https://archive.org/details/racismshorthisto0000fred/page/46/mode/2up
       6. Rice, Gene. 2023. The Alleged Curse on Ham,
  HTML https://bibleresources.americanbible.org/resource/the-alleged-curse-on-ham,<br
       />diakses pada 20 Februari 2023 pukul 20.41
       7. Kell, Garrett. 2021. Damn the Curse of Ham: How Genesis 9 Got
       Twisted into Racist Propaganda,
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       />diakses pada 20 Februari 2023 pukul 20.35
       8. New World Encyclopedia. Curse of Ham. 2023. ,
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       diakses
       pada 20 Februari 2023 pukul 20.25
       9. Wikipedia contributors. (2023, February 17). Curse of Ham. In
       Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 13:23, February 20,
       2023, from
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       Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
       By: antihellenistic Date: July 5, 2023, 7:06 pm
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       Talmudism
       [quote]The Hamitic hypothesis states that everything of value
       ever found in Africa was brought there by the Hamites, allegedly
       a branch of the Caucasian race. This hypothesis was preceded by
       an earlier theory, in the 16th century, that the Hamites were
       black savages, 'natural slaves' - and Negroes.[/quote]
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       [quote]In "Jews Had a Negligible Role in the Slave Trade"
       (letter, 14 February), Harold Brackman refuted the claim by
       Louis Farrakhan, head of the Nation of Islam, that Ph.D. the
       dissertation proves that the compilers of the Talmud "'created'
       racism by concocting the so-called 'myth of Ham.' " According to
       Mr. Brackman, "None of my conclusions are compatible with this
       heinous slander."
       ...
       It cannot be denied that the Babylonian Talmud was the first
       source to read Negrophobic content into the episode emphasizing
       Canaan's brotherly relationship with Kush. . . The Global Talmud
       of the episode adds a dark stigma to the fate of slavery[/quote]
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       Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
       By: antihellenistic Date: March 23, 2024, 12:18 am
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       Western pro-Life Morality vs [color=blue]Black People's Idealist
       Militarism[/color]
       [quote]Drapetomaniacs
       Get Free or Die Trying
       Before preachers, life coaches, and self-help gurus proclaimed
       they could cure crack smoking, depression, and infidelity with
       vision boards, self affirmations, and prayer cloths, Dr. Samuel
       Adolphus Cartwright mesmerized America with a pseudo-scientific
       breakthrough that would remain unmatched until the invention of
       the Shake Weight. Although he was previously best known for his
       staunch opposition to the wild idea that microscopic ghosts
       called “germs” caused disease,1 in 1851, Cartwright would become
       most renowned for presenting a paper before the Medical
       Association of Louisiana proposing an explosive new mental
       illness called “drapetomania,” or “the disease causing slaves to
       run away.” In it, he wrote:
       The cause in the most of cases, that induces the negro to run
       away from service, is as much a disease of the mind as any other
       species of mental alienation, and much more curable, as a
       general rule. With the advantages of proper medical advice,
       strictly followed, this troublesome practice that many negroes
       have of running away, can be almost entirely prevented, although
       the slaves be located on the borders of a free state, within a
       stone’s throw of the abolitionists.2
       Cartwright’s racist pseudo-psychology illustrates another
       delusion of whiteness: namely, the continued justification of
       oppression—statesanctioned ****, murder, and unending torture—by
       portraying Black people’s insatiable inclination toward freedom
       as a sickness or a criminal impulse. For everyone else, the
       irrepressible compulsion for liberty is viewed as a symptom of a
       craven, barbaric psychopathy. This nation’s history is
       pockmarked with examples of the idea that freedom is for white
       people.
       Although most Enlightenment-era thinkers agreed that freedom is
       the natural state of man, they somehow carved out an exception
       for their belligerent negroes because, in their white minds,
       property rights were as important as individual freedom. The
       race-based forced labor system that built America into an
       economic power could only exist through violence and the threat
       of violence. In places like South Carolina, where the captives
       outnumbered the free, this state-sanctioned institution of
       racial dehumanization required constant enforcement. But every
       speck of evidence reveals that resistance—both conscious and
       subconscious—was interwoven into the fabric of life as an
       enslaved person. Through acts large and small, organized and
       individual, the search for liberty was a way of life for
       Africans in America. It wasn’t drapetomania, but a persistent
       and unyielding belief in their personhood that drove the
       enslaved Africans to seek out freedom.
       Under Cartwright’s asinine hypothesis, this imaginary illness
       manifested itself in many ways. Some sufferers ran away to
       freedom, while others were mad enough to physically resist
       oppression. The most unhinged drapetomaniacs did the
       unthinkable—they tried to eliminate the source of their
       oppression. But according to this medical diagnosis, the
       contagion’s victims shared a common goal: to get free or die
       trying
       It was sometimes impossible to tell when an enslaved person was
       struck with freedom fever. While the most popular stories of
       resistance involve coordinated violent events, the most common
       form of resistance took place in small ways on a daily basis.
       All across America, Africans coerced into bondage used
       understated and not-so-subtle methods to counteract the
       brutality of slavery. Some undermined their evil overlords’
       financial goals by reducing productivity, sabotaging their work
       equipment, and planning labor strikes. Others played sick or
       worked in a slow, deliberate manner. When a generally dependable
       servant stopped taking pride in their work, drapetomania was a
       potential cause.
       Of course, enslavers searched for cures for this malady. The
       city of Charleston, South Carolina, developed an entire
       “corrections” industry dedicated to punishing and reforming
       rebellious human property.3 Slaveowners could send insolent
       slaves to the “Sugar House,” an old sugar factory where city
       workers were paid to whip and reeducate the troublemakers and
       malingerers.4 The first execution in the Massachusetts Colony
       took place in 1681 when Maria, a “negro servant to Joshua Lambe
       of Roxbury,” set her master’s house on fire, as well as a
       neighbor’s. According to the Massachusetts Bay Colony’s court
       records, Maria “wittingly, willingly and feloniously set on fire
       the dwelling house of Thomas Swann . . . and presently went and
       crept into a hole at a back doore of thy Masters Lambs house and
       set it on fier also.”5 Maybe Maria was a cold-blooded murderer.
       Perhaps the desire to be a full, independent human being had
       driven her into a state of pyromania. In any case, there was
       only one antidote for Maria’s delirium. The compassionate people
       of Massachusetts had to burn her alive at the stake. They had no
       choice.
       In a capitalist racket based on the theft of labor, intellect,
       and Black bodies, it may seem logical that Africans would resort
       to stealing things from the people who stole them, as well. But
       according to the rules of drapetomania, these people had a
       medical disorder that turned them into thieves. “One day, a
       group of us were working in the field,” Cecelia Simmons Green
       recalls of her time on the Grimball Plantation on James Island,
       South Carolina. “We heard Mr. Hinson talking to another white
       man; he was telling him: ‘You think them **** stupid but they
       have plenty of sense. I think some of them been going in my
       fields at night stealing my vegetables and selling them in the
       market.’ We would hold our heads down and laugh because we knew
       who was teafing the vegetables.”6 Apparently, in South Carolina,
       the person who sows, waters, weeds, and harvests a plant can
       somehow “steal” it from the people who did absolutely nothing to
       create it.
       Since enslaved people were governed by property laws, running
       away to freedom was legally considered an act of theft, despite
       the ironic fact that the whole slavemaking industry was based on
       abduction. Sometimes these drapetomaniac slaves absconded to
       British-controlled Canada, free states, or wherever the
       Underground Railroad led them. But these weren’t the only places
       to run. Some of the most popular escape destinations in America
       for the enslaved were just anywhere away from white people.
       Sallie Smith, a woman enslaved on a Louisiana plantation, says
       she “stayed in the woods” half of the time of her enslavement,
       depending on the kindness of the other enslaved people in the
       area.7 Assuming her brother knew her whereabouts, Sallie’s
       former captor tortured her brother until he, too, bolted from
       the plantation and joined her in the woods. Unfortunately, there
       were no peer reviewed studies to investigate whether these
       recurring bouts of drapetomania were genetic.
       The South was surprisingly also a viable option for some slaves
       who were infected with this ailment. There, entire communities
       were built that are still being discovered today, including Bas
       du Fleuve, a vast area between the mouth of the Mississippi and
       New Orleans that was controlled by runaways for most of the
       1770s. During the colonial period, the all-Black town of Fort
       Mose in the Spanish-held Florida territory was a popular
       destination for those who wanted a permanent vacation from
       slavery. Spain had abolished slavery in the territory, and after
       the War of 1812, a fully armed British “Negro Fort” in Florida
       became the center of the Black resistance against the
       institution of slavery, forming its own army. The British Corps
       of Colonial Marines was made up of free Blacks and fugitive
       slaves who fought alongside Native Americans to protect the kind
       runaways who quarantined themselves to protect others from their
       contagious virus.
       Perhaps the most remarkable of these oases of freedom was the
       Great Dismal Swamp, a million-acre area that covered
       southeastern Virginia and northeastern North Carolina.
       Historians still don’t quite know how many escaped Africans
       built communities and lived free in the Great Dismal Swamp, but
       new research suggests that thousands may have lived
       there.8[/quote]
       Continuing
       [quote]In May 1803, a shipload of seventy-five captive Igbo
       people were purchased for $100 each to grow rice on forced labor
       plantations on St. Simons Island, Georgia. Apparently, the ship
       was infested with Cartwright’s disease, because the shackled
       passengers screamed all the way to America. When the captain
       would send members of the crew down into the belly of the ship
       to quiet them, the crew members were terrified to realize that
       the captives weren’t just screaming; they were saying one chant,
       over and over, in unison: “Orimiri Omambala bu anyi bia. Orimiri
       Omambala ka anyi ga ejina.”14 When the ship got close to the
       shore, the chants grew louder. “Orimiri Omambala bu anyi bia.
       Orimiri Omambala ka anyi ga ejina,” they prayed in unison. Then,
       somehow, they broke the chains, and threw the entire crew
       overboard. Led by a captured chieftain, the Africans then walked
       calmly into the sea, chanting, “Orimiri Omambala bu anyi bia.
       Orimiri Omambala ka anyi ga ejina,” drowning themselves rather
       than be slaves.
       Some say the number was seventy-five; other sources put the
       number at thirteen. One contemporaneous account described it as
       a terrible loss of the plantation owner’s investment. Others
       describe the Igbo rebellion as a mass suicide. Whatever the
       case, witnesses watched while shackled slaves calmly walked into
       Dunbar Creek on St. Simons Island in Glynn County, Georgia, and
       drowned themselves, chanting, “The Water Spirit brought us here.
       The Water Spirit will take us home.” They were free.[/quote]
       Source :
       Black AF History: The Un-Whitewashed Story of America page 96 -
       99
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       Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
       By: antihellenistic Date: March 24, 2024, 2:18 am
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       Root of Western Rightism
       [quote]In the beginning, Christianity was one of the main
       excuses used to justify the human trafficking industry that
       enslaved indigenous and Black people in the New World. Even
       though the Jamestown colony was originally founded as a
       get-rich-quick scheme, these capitalist dreams were hidden under
       the guise of “propagating of Christian religion to suche people
       as yet live in darkenesse and . . . to bring the infidels and
       salvages living in those parts to humane civilitie and to a
       setled and quiet govermente,”4 according to the 1606 Virginia
       Charter. In theory, the English colonizers were supposed to
       introduce civilization to North America’s indigenous natives by
       teaching them about the European version of an omnipotent deity.
       In practice, they mostly just stole land, resources, and, of
       course, labor.
       Massachusetts’s 1641 law expressly forbade slavery “unless it be
       lawfull captives taken in just warres, and such strangers as
       willingly selle themselves or are sold to us.”5 This statute was
       derived from the Levitical law, the portion of the Torah that
       informed the Jewish priesthood, which would become the book of
       Leviticus in the Christian Bible:
       “Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of
       Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves. Do not rule over them
       ruthlessly, but fear your God.“Your male and female slaves are
       to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy
       slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living
       among you and members of their clans born in your country, and
       they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your
       children as inherited property and can make them slaves for
       life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites
       ruthlessly.” 6
       Because the American Pilgrims considered themselves to be
       builders of the “New Jerusalem,” in this case, “fellow
       Israelites” meant white people. No self-respecting Christian
       would enslave a fellow follower of Christ, so it made sense that
       Africans would have to be excluded from the colonizers’
       What-Would-White-Jesus-Do mandate. Therefore, rather quickly,
       early Americans had to give up their initial cover story of
       trying to spread the gospel, and became reluctant to introduce
       their enslaved property to Christianity, lest their double
       standards be exposed.
       When Lorinda Goodwin and her family converted to her master’s
       faith on a Georgia plantation, she quickly realized the unspoken
       limitations of Catholic practices for the enslaved.[/quote]
       Source :
       Black AF History: The Un-Whitewashed Story of America page 122
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       Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
       By: antihellenistic Date: April 12, 2024, 7:55 am
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       Re: The Curse of Ham, or Hamitic Myth
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 12, 2024, 5:18 pm
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       No, the reason why colonial-era "whites" deserve unique blame
       for slavery is simple: they did not enslave other "whites" but
       nevertheless enslaved "non-whites"*, thus are using an
       ingroup/outgroup double-standard. In contrast, ancient societies
       (including Romans) enslaved both their own ethnicity and others,
       thus at least are not using an ingroup/outgroup double-standard.
       (* "Whites" would not even enslave their "white" war enemies,
       but would enslave "non-whites" who had never started a war
       against them. Think about that. Ancient societies would find
       this incomprehensible.)
       #Post#: 26117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Slave Insurrections
       By: antihellenistic Date: April 25, 2024, 10:06 am
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       It's Western Democratic Legal Law which Preserving American
       Slavery, but with Different Methods
       [quote]Now, instead of calling it slavery or involuntary
       servitude, they could call it “mass incarceration.” Instead of
       private individuals forcing people of color to work for profit,
       they could force Black people to work for the profit of private
       individuals. To understand how this works, you gotta go back to
       a period that the great historian Richard Martin Lloyd Walters
       calls “Once upon a time, not long ago; when people wore pajamas
       and lived life slow.”
       In colonial America, if you were convicted of a crime, you were
       fined, whipped, banished from the community, or—in the
       worst-case scenario—you were sent to the gallows for capital
       punishment. You know what a gallows is, right? I don’t know how
       much news you get in there, but a few historical reenactors
       recently built one in front of the U.S. Capitol building just
       before they stormed in. The good people in Charleston, South
       Carolina, came up with a better solution. They monetized
       slave-whipping. The city offered a menu and a price list to send
       belligerent or misbehaving Africans to the “sugar house”—a
       municipal building staffed with people who were authorized to
       inflict violence on enslaved Black people for a small fee. But
       trust me, cuzzo, these professional torturers didn’t use boxing
       gloves.1 When Southern cities like Savannah adopted this
       profitable system, they came up with an official-sounding name:
       the Department of Corrections.
       In 1787, the Philadelphia Society for Alleviating the Miseries
       of Public Prisons met in Benjamin Franklin’s home and came up
       with the plan for the first modern prison system. Instead of
       punishing criminals, they encouraged the prisoners to ask for
       forgiveness or “penitence,” so they called it a penitentiary.
       The prisoners were kept in solitary confinement, and when they
       weren’t subject to this inhumane treatment, they worked, prayed,
       and reflected on their behavior without contact or communication
       with other prisoners. Even when they were together, they were
       forced to wear masks so they couldn’t see each other. The prison
       system that was built in Auburn, New York, on the other hand,
       used corporal punishment, hard work, and silence to rehabilitate
       prisoners. Inmates were allowed to congregate, but they weren’t
       allowed to talk.
       By the 1840s every prison system in America used either the
       Pennsylvania system or the Auburn system, but regardless of what
       method they chose to deploy, they all had one thing in common:
       free labor. Curiously, most of those prisoners were poor white
       men and white immigrants. In the days before the Civil War,
       foreign-born immigrants made up 3 percent of the South’s
       population but up to one-third of the prison system in Southern
       states.*2 Luckily, the Thirteenth Amendment solved this rampant
       white-on-white crime committed by “urban youth” by creating a
       new loophole. They called them “Black Codes.”
       After slaves were freed, every Southern state passed “vagrancy”
       laws that made it a crime to be unemployed. States like Georgia,
       Alabama, and Mississippi also made it illegal to learn a skill
       or trade without the permission of a white man. Louisiana’s
       Black Code of 1865 required every Black person “to be in the
       regular service of some white person, or former owner, who shall
       be held responsible for the conduct of said negro.”3 Texas
       declared, “It shall be the duty of all Sheriffs, Justices of the
       Peace, and other civil officers of the several counties of the
       State, to report to the Judge of the County Court of their
       respective counties, at any time, all indigent or vagrant
       minors, within their respective counties or precincts, and,
       also, all minors whose parent or parents have not the means, or
       who refuse to support said minor.”4 When Black citizens
       inevitably broke these laws, they were sold to plantations and
       factory owners to work for free. Remember, slavery was abolished
       “except as a punishment for a crime,” so, technically, this
       “convict lease system” didn’t violate the Thirteenth
       Amendment.[/quote]
       Source :
       Black AF History: The Un-Whitewashed Story of America page 296 -
       297
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