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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 26, 2022, 9:59 pm
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"I can't quite figure how to do it without using Western
nutritional terminology/concepts to determine what makes a
"balanced" diet."
HTML https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3686083/
Please use:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/re-psychological-decolonization/
to discuss the concepts further. I tried to bring it up in the
past:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/re-psychological-decolonization/msg2282/#msg2282
[quote]The first concept (common to many independently derived
non-Western medical systems) that I suggest you try to grasp is
hot and cold, which refers not to temperature but to the
character of the food:
[img width=1280
height=773]
HTML https://jameskennedymonash.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/chinese-food-chart.jpg[/img]
Which end of the scale do you prefer, tastewise? This will tell
you something about what kind of nutrition is good for you.
(Part of your answer is likely to vary depending on when you ask
yourself the question. But there are also likely to be some
constants independent of occasion, which should reflect your
personality.)
"I'm a bit pedantic about knowing EXACTLY what's going into my
body and if it's keeping me healthy."
The problem is that what keeps you healthy will not necessarily
be the same as what keeps the next person healthy. You are an
individual.
The real problem is that Western medicine does not treat people
as individuals, instead callously treating us as particular
cases of a generalization (hence RDAs). If you believe that
knowing what's going into your body provides you with sufficient
information to know if it's keeping you healthy, then even you
yourself have failed to treat yourself as an individual!
What should be going into your body is not a set of rigid RDAs,
but whatever is required by your unique body on each unique day
as it interacts in real time with unique (and constantly
changing) environmental conditions (habitat, weather, activity,
stress, etc.).
"Being observational (what the people of the ancient times would
have been, I suppose) just seems too... risky?"
What is more risky: trusting your own sensitivity, or assuming
your body just happens to be the most average body in every
parameter (which is what RDAs assume everyone is)?
And yes, if you have been Westernized, then the former really
may be more risky at first. But we have a duty to recover as
much as possible of the innate sensitivity that Western
civilization has beaten out of us.[/quote]
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 7, 2022, 3:21 am
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More Western inferiority exposed:
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/aussie-tiktoker-explains-why-she-215053499.html
[quote][img]
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An Australian TikToker living in Malaysia surprised her
Southeast Asian followers when she claimed that people from down
under use forks while eating rice dishes.
In her recent video, TikTok user Georgia says that Australians
think that using a spoon to eat rice is unusual.
...
Georgia told Malaysian news outlet Says that she only realized
people use spoons for rice after living in Singapore and
Malaysia. She shared that her friends and colleagues in
Singapore would tease her for choosing a fork over a spoon.
...
She noted that knives and forks are often used for most of the
dishes in Australia, and spoons are meant for soups and
desserts.[/quote]
And from the comments:
[quote]I had an Indonesian friend who went to Canada and
naturally ate rice with a spoon. Her mother-in-law was so
angry, she shouted at her. "No spoon, no spoon, use fork!"
Sometimes, culture can turn to table manners and turn to
rules.[/quote]
Anyone who thinks it makes more sense to eat rice with a fork
than a spoon should be prohibited from reproducing.
While on the subject of spoons, it is also worth nothing the
engineering inferiority of Western spoons:
HTML https://cdn.xxl.thumbs.canstockphoto.com/spoons-vector-illustration-drawing_csp17125992.jpg
HTML https://wl-5minutecrafts.cf.tsp.li/resize/728x/jpg/ce4/33f/61e8cc50dbb3c957de6e1adf41.jpg
compared to the geometrically/ergonomically optimized:
HTML https://cdn4.iconfinder.com/data/icons/food-drinks-1-1/128/soup-spoon-512.png
[img]
HTML https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0514/7839/7087/products/70354_700x700.jpg?v=1648523158[/img]
As a matter of fact, American spoons had the latter structure
prior to Western colonization:
HTML http://www.gennisheyotrading.com/Native-American
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: Zhang Caizhi Date: July 12, 2022, 3:05 am
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How about chopsticks?
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: guest78 Date: July 14, 2022, 12:33 pm
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Obesity is a National Security Issue: Lieutenant General Mark
Hertling at TEDxMidAtlantic 2012
[quote]Lieutenant General Mark Phillip Hertling, is the
Commanding General, US Army Europe and Seventh Army. In that
role, he is the commander of the approximately 42,000 U.S. Army
forces assigned to Europe, and he is the Army Component
Commander of U.S. European Command. While Hertling's primary
role is training U.S. Army soldiers and units for Contingency
and Full Spectrum Operations, he is also responsible for Theater
Security Cooperation and Building Partner Capacity with the 51
allied nations that are part of the European area of
operation.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWN13pKVp9s
[img width=1024
height=1280]
HTML https://external-preview.redd.it/gmBWYZra7nT3aN4hT9exDovkTpuzHY8hDR29Ks9WpJQ.png?format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=526c547d4c8d60e0e255641ce50b74eae7c30cf6[/img]
Colonization, Food, and the Practice of Eating
[quote]The violence that accompanied the European colonization
of the Indigenous people of Mesoamerica is a well-known fact.
Historians have elaborated on the devastating effects such
colonization had on Indigenous societies, cultures, and
mortality. While the study of the conquest has generally focused
on the social, political, and economic changes forced upon
Indigenous populations, the matter of food—the very source of
survival—is rarely considered. Yet, food was a principal tool of
colonization. Arguably, one cannot properly understand
colonization without taking into account the issue of food and
eating.
Imagine that you are a Spaniard, newly arrived on the coasts of
a foreign land. Your survival depends on two things: security
(protecting yourself from danger) and nourishment (food and
other substances that are necessary for survival). In terms of
the former, Europeans arrived on the coast of what is now
referred to as “the Americas” fully equipped with the means to
protect themselves. Atop horses, armed with advanced weaponry
and a slew of European diseases, Spaniards engaged Indigenous
populations in the most violent of ways. Nourishment, however,
was another matter.
When Spaniards arrived in Mesoamerica, they encountered the
Maya, Aztecs and other prominent Indigenous groups. The land was
rich, fertile, and filled with crops such as beans, pumpkins,
chilies, avocados, elderberries, guavas, papayas, tomatoes,
cocoa, cotton, tobacco, henequen, indigo, maguey, corn, and
cassava.[1] Europeans encountered similar agricultural
plantations throughout the region. However, to the colonists
this food was substandard and unacceptable for the proper
nourishment of European bodies. At the time of conquest, the
European diet was principally composed of bread, olive oil,
olives, “meat,” and wine. While this diet was somewhat sustained
on the actual voyage from Europe to the Americas, upon arrival,
Europeans found themselves devoid of the foods they considered
necessary for survival. As Europeans began dying off in these
“new” lands, the focus of concern shifted to food. In fact,
Columbus himself was convinced that Spaniards were dying because
they lacked “healthful European foods.”[2] Herein began the
colonial discourse of “right foods” (superior European foods)
vs. “wrong foods” (inferior Indigenous foods). The Spaniards
considered that without the “right foods,” they would die or,
even worse, in their minds, they would become like Indigenous
people.[/quote]
The Arrival of Cows, Pigs, Goats, and Sheep
[quote]A number of domesticated animals were present when
Europeans arrived in what is now known as Latin America. Among
them were dogs, llamas and alpacas, guinea pigs, turkeys,
Muscovy ducks, and a type of chicken. In Mesoamerica, any “meat”
and leather that was consumed or utilized usually came from wild
game, and generally, there were no animals exploited for labor,
with the exception of dogs, who were at times used for hauling..
Europeans considered this lack of proper animals for work and
consumption unacceptable. Thus, the first contingent of horses,
dogs, pigs, cows, sheep, and goats arrived with Columbus’ second
voyage in 1493.[5] The arrival of these hoofed immigrants would
fundamentally alter Indigenous ways of life forever.[/quote]
HTML https://foodispower.org/our-food-choices/colonization-food-and-the-practice-of-eating/
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/turanian-diffusion/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/antropocentricism-the-most-dangerous-ideology-in-the-world/
HTML https://afvallen.planetfem.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/diabetes.jpg
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 14, 2022, 11:20 pm
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Another design reflecting Western engineering inferiority is the
teapot which (rooted in Western aesthetics) demands reflectional
symmetry and thus automatically positions the handle in the same
vertical plane as the spout:
HTML https://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2018/5/2/8/1/e/81edc1d0-cf79-44c9-a5ea-1570bcb2cbd3.jpg
HTML https://www.acsilver.co.uk/shop/pc/catalog/c2109a-victorian-silver-teapot_152_detail.jpg
HTML https://shop.westminster-abbey.org/media/catalog/product/cache/cc6f3c52bc2f396e7352083c7f02ea4b/v/i/victoria-albert-fine-china-teapot-gold.jpg
HTML https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/12/d1/1112d114970bebecfbb63cf4e666067d.jpg
HTML https://www.applecrossantiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Maypole-Teapot-1a-1050x904-.jpg
despite this actually makes pouring very inefficient compared to
positioning the handle at an angle:
HTML https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H8585943fc11542bc9531052a94895c16W.jpg
HTML https://cdn.w600.comps.canstockphoto.com/seasoned-chinese-herbal-medicine-claypot-stock-photo_csp18307647.jpg
[img]
HTML https://cf.shopee.com.my/file/6239be566c8945e318a5c5d1e8a1d009[/img]
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Household-kyusu-feb5-2015.jpg/800px-Household-kyusu-feb5-2015.jpg
[img]
HTML https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S414842470a2e4afbb9492f7a6ea23168M/1-5L-Traditional-Chinese-Medicine-Pot-Boil-Medicine-Pot-Decoct-Medicine-Ceramic-Health-Pot-Herbal-Tea.jpg_Q90.jpg_.webp[/img]
Western aesthetics just can't handle (pun intended) asymmetry.
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 5, 2022, 7:19 pm
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Success:
HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/weddings-milk-14-things-millennials-180000840.html
[quote]here are 15 things that millennials are happy to drop
from their budget.
...
Dairy milk
When your barista asks if you want milk in your coffee, what do
you ask for?
From oat to almond to soy, there are so many non-dairy milk
alternatives on the market right now — and millennials are
partly to thank for that.
Due to the rising popularity of vegan or plant-based lifestyles
— and, let’s face it, an awareness that you’ve got lactose
intolerance — dairy milk is becoming less likely to make it onto
grocery lists.
Lots of millennials choose non-dairy milk for environmental
reasons. According to a 2020 study by YouGov, one in five
millennials have changed their diet to reduce their impact on
the planet. Cost effectiveness also plays a factor, considering
these alternatives have a longer shelf life than dairy milk.
Sorry to the die-hard dairy drinkers, it seems like oat milk is
here to stay.[/quote]
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 6, 2022, 11:28 pm
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Rightists don't even like the availability of non-meat options:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0j3X4r8EMI
Also note how False Leftist Iadarola doesn't get why
anti-veganism is a rightist position.
Note the following rightist meme:
HTML https://cdn.hyvor.com/s1/uploads/talk/user-uploads/62effa2aed8672.086483581659894314ZaKUkq1eO6TLeaYf00tW.png
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 9, 2022, 7:14 pm
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We are mainstreamed!
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/civil-rights-groups-including-al-183758182.html
[quote]Civil rights groups, including Al Sharpton-led
organization, urge USDA to fix ‘dietary racism’ in school lunch
programs
Twenty-eight civil rights and health care groups announced
Tuesday they have requested that the U.S. Department of
Agriculture (USDA) address “dietary racism” in national school
lunch programs, raising concerns to the federal agency about
forcing millions of minority children to drink cow’s milk
without allowing them a healthier alternative.
In a letter to the USDA’s Equity Commission, the groups said the
National School Lunch Program (NSLP) only incentivizes dairy
milk, a policy they called “inherently inequitable and socially
unjust” because children of color are more likely to be lactose
intolerant — meaning they cannot fully digest sugars in dairy
and can suffer from adverse effects after consumption.
...
“Black, Native American, Asian and Latino kids are being
punished for their race and heritage.”[/quote]
Exactly.
[quote]According to the civil rights and health groups, 80
percent of Black and Latino people, more than 90 percent of
Asians, and more than 80 percent of Indigenous Americans are
lactose intolerant, compared to 15 percent of White
people.[/quote]
We are less on average less Turanian. Current USDA policy is
designed to benefit the more Turanian.
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/turanian-diffusion/
Continuing:
[quote]“It is hard to imagine a more inequitable and socially
unjust USDA practice than the force feeding of milk to
[minority] children in our schools,” the letter reads.[/quote]
And I was the first to start saying this many years ago.
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 14, 2022, 6:19 pm
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Our enemies exhibit their "white" dietary fragility:
HTML https://gatesofvienna.net/2022/08/a-holodomor-in-our-future/
[quote]Price explosions: German supermarkets attach anti-theft
devices to staple foods
...
groceries now apparently have to be provided with anti-theft
devices based on the English model: the first citizens seem to
be driven to acts of desperation in view of the price
explosions. This does not affect high-priced items such as
champagne, but staple foods.[/quote]
What do our enemies mean by "staple foods"?
[quote]A supermarket in Berlin-Weißensee has now attached
security markings to some types of meat — yellow stickers with
the inscription “Secured article”. While cheap meat with the
husbandry level one, such as rump steak, lamb skewers, steak
from the prime rib of a young bull or Argentinean steak, is
secured here, the yellow warnings in a Lidl branch in Tegel are
for higher-priced meat (beef fillet, steak and soup meat).
The anti-theft devices also seem to be used in other supermarket
branches. On Twitter, a user shared a photo showing the yellow
stickers on butter. She wrote: “I think this is insane, Lidl!
Have we gotten to the point where regular butter has to be
protected against theft with a security tag?”
...
Additional security measures are already being taken in Great
Britain. Supermarkets from the chains Sainsbury’s, Coop, Tesco
and Aldi provide baby milk, vitamin supplements, steak, cheese
and butter.[/quote]
Actual meaning of staple foods:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staple_food
[quote]Typical examples include tubers and roots, grains,
legumes, and seeds. Among them, cereals, legumes, tubers, and
roots account for about 90% of the world's food calories
intake.[1]
Early agricultural civilizations valued the foods that they
established as staples because, in addition to providing
necessary nutrition, they generally are suitable for storage
over long periods of time without decay. Such nonperishable
foods are the only possible staples during seasons of shortage,
such as dry seasons or cold temperate winters, against which
times harvests have been stored.[/quote]
However:
[quote]The dominant staple foods in different parts of the world
are a function of weather patterns, local terrain, farming
constraints, acquired tastes and ecosystems. For example, the
main energy source staples in the average African diet are
cereals (46 percent), roots and tubers (20 percent) and animal
products (7 percent). In Western Europe the main staples in the
average diet are animal products (33 percent), cereals (26
percent), and roots and tubers (4 percent).[/quote]
All who consider animal products to be staple foods should be
prohibited from reproducing.
Back to enemy article:
[quote]How could things have gotten so bad in Germany, which is
said to be so rich that people are forced to steal the food they
need because they can no longer pay for it?[/quote]
How about getting used to eating more like how actual humans
eat?
HTML https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7a/44/a9/7a44a994351905a21fd924a2feaacfe8--why-vegan-vegan-quotes.jpg
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 9, 2022, 1:52 am
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/queen-elizabeth-impacted-eat-drink-175454559.html
[quote]How Queen Elizabeth Has Impacted What We Eat and Drink
she had other food and drink indulgences like poached salmon,
delicate tea cookies, and scones with jam and clotted cream.
Here are a few others:
...
The queen began every day with a pot of Early Grey, a
traditional bergamot-scented black tea she drank with milk and
no sugar. Her devotion to the flavor ensured its popularity
throughout the world, making it the fifth most popular tea
flavor globally, according to Fresh Tea. It is the tea most
associated with royalty in general and Queen Elizabeth
specifically, and there is no question that its popularity was
enhanced by being her majesty's favorite.[/quote]
We need to change this back:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longjing_tea#Legends
[quote]Longjing tea was granted the status of Gong Cha, or
imperial tea, in the Qing dynasty by the Kangxi Emperor.[/quote]
Please personally try both side by side and taste the
difference. Then you will know the aesthetical inferiority of
Western royalty compared to non-Western royalty.
Back to previous link:
[quote]Queen Elizabeth adhered to a daily teatime meal; her
preference for delicate sandwiches with the crusts cut off was
well-publicized. Her favorite version was reported to be smoked
salmon with cream cheese.[/quote]
I have encountered many restaurants which cut off crusts from
sandwiches. We should try to reverse this trend. I try to ask
for crusts to be included when ordering sandwiches.
[quote]A longtime sportswoman, Queen Elizabeth frequently dined
on venison, wild birds, or other game — often sourced on one of
her properties — or salmon fished from the River Dee at Balmoral
Castle. The queen's preference for game meats even extended to
more casual meals; she was, reportedly, a big fan of hamburgers
made with ground venison. She usually skipped any potatoes,
pastas or grains at her evening repast, but almost always had
room for dessert.[/quote]
Just another subhuman. See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/'royal'-family-hate-thread/
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