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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 9, 2021, 9:27 pm
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More compulsive Turanization of food by Westerners:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/tried-easy-cheesy-tiktok-hack-140400584.html
[quote]This process started out the same as the previous recipe.
I boiled a pot of water, added the entire block of noodles in,
and let them cook for three minutes.
I added about a tablespoon of butter, ¼ cup of half-and-half,
and a generous handful of grated Parmesan cheese to my ramen.
...
This ramen had a very creamy, cheesy, gooey texture. The noodles
had a gummy texture and the cheese made them stick
together.[/quote]
[img]
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I didn't even know what half-and-half was until I looked it up:
HTML https://www.allrecipes.com/article/what-is-half-and-half/
[quote]Half-and-half is simply a mixture of half whole milk and
half cream.[/quote]
So milk, cream, butter AND cheese simultaneously added to one
(originally dairy-free) dish! What is with the dairy obsession
FFS?!
On the other hand, I accurately guessed what the chef looks
like:
[img]
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: Zea_mays Date: October 17, 2021, 7:30 pm
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[quote]So milk, cream, butter AND cheese simultaneously added to
one (originally dairy-free) dish! What is with the dairy
obsession FFS?![/quote]
As a kid, the day I found out that you could make macaroni and
cheese without the cheese was like a religious epiphany or
something.
#Post#: 9521--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 22, 2021, 9:27 pm
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Finally more people are catching on:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-patriotic-ziganwu-bloggers-attack-231422969.html
[quote]A suggestion that children should drink milk for
breakfast was taken as a sign that he was rejecting traditional
Chinese breakfast - and values. "Isn't this too much worship of
the West and fawning over foreigners?" wrote
Pingminwangxiaoshi.[/quote]
Just one thing: the term "foreigners" is too broad. Not all
foreigners are milk drinkers. Also, this should never be about
China rejecting all foreign influences, which would just end up
becoming another form of bigotry. There is much from other
non-Western civilizations that China should humbly try to learn
from. What we are here to reject is Western civilization. Indeed
these two points are connected, for the more China Westernizes,
the more easily it will think it needs to learn nothing from
other non-Western civilizations.
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: Zea_mays Date: December 4, 2021, 6:00 am
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A bit crass...but not as crass as what happens to billions of
turkeys each year.
HTML https://i.redd.it/phtf0gcx9o181.jpg
Another bizarre mentality--conflating animal welfare with how
gourmet/expensive the meat was to produce:
[img width=960
height=1280]
HTML https://i.redd.it/ej6455023l181.jpg[/img]
[quote]if we're interested in long-term change, we can't look at
killing with kindness or gratitude as a solution in itself. ...
But if we want to spend our precious time, energy and dollars to
help farm animals, the simplest thing one can do is realize that
we don't need to consume animal products to live healthy and
happy lives. [/quote]
HTML https://www.huffpost.com/entry/humane-meat-is-the-soluti_b_880731
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: acc9 Date: December 29, 2021, 8:15 am
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While the world seems to have become more conscious of
environmental, health and animal cruelty issues linked to meat
consumption as witnessed in the increasing number of veggie
restaurants as well as vegan options available in ordinary
restaurants, it's frustrating to see a counter force coming from
the Japanese who had been investing heavily over the past
decades in producing ever higher quality meat (Kobe beef,
dark-haired pig, Wagyu beef etc.) to plunge meat-eaters into
sort of an addiction to craving for ever more expensive but
"extremely tender" meat. As a girl describes:"The slice of Wagyu
beef is like milkshake as it melts in my mouth!" Ugh!!
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 29, 2021, 10:28 pm
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"(Kobe beef, dark-haired pig, Wagyu beef etc.)"
"Wagyu" is a misnomer, as beef was avoided in ancient Japan, as
covered in the first post of this topic:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dietary-decolonization/msg5060/#msg5060
[quote]Historically, there was a beef taboo in Ancient Japan, as
a means of protecting the livestock population and due to
Buddhist influence.[84] Meat-eating had long been taboo in
Japan, beginning with a decree in 675 that banned the
consumption of cattle, horses, dogs, monkeys, and chickens,
influenced by the Buddhist prohibition of killing.[85] In 1612,
the shōgun declared a decree that specifically banned the
killing of cattle.[85][/quote]
They should call it Meijigyu if they wanted to be historically
accurate:
[quote]This official prohibition was in place until 1872, when
it was officially proclaimed that Emperor Meiji consumed beef
and mutton, which transformed the country's dietary
considerations as a means of modernizing the country,
particularly with regard to consumption of beef.[85] With
contact from Europeans, beef increasingly became popular, even
though it had previously been considered barbaric.[84][/quote]
True Japanese eat natto:
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Natto_on_rice.jpg
HTML https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200727-japans-most-polarising-superfood
Anyone who prefers beef/pork to natto are degenerates who should
be prohibited from reproducing.
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Re: Simple living movements
By: acc9 Date: January 13, 2022, 1:24 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk5Y6ZT38o4&list=PLWX5WRs01r9EUVmdAb9mGjvL9eIpjJ0PV&index=2
What a lot of people value in today's eating/cooking culture is
a significant reflection of how simple or complicated a style of
life is preferred in everyday living. What comes to your mind
when you hear "toffee apple"? The dessert as demonstrated in the
above Masterchef Australia episode just shows to what extent
simple cooking has been contorted .......Is our produce from
nature for food or display?
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: Zea_mays Date: January 16, 2022, 8:41 pm
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[quote]AT THE DINNER TABLE
(Summer of 1933)
His home was middle-class, one might almost say petit bourgeois.
The rooms were smallish, the furnishing simple and without
refinement. There was not a single piece that revealed anything
of good personal taste or artistic value.
Whenever Hitler was in Berlin, he asked people to dine with him.
It was considered a high honour to eat at Hitler’s table, and
there were usually ten to twenty people, at most. The food was
simple. In this, too, the party Führer liked to give an
impression of modest living on proletarian lines. He frequently
expressed his intention of changing none of his previous habits,
either in his clothing or in his style of living. As a matter of
fact, this did form an agreeable contrast to the extravagant
behaviour of some of the new bosses. Hitler retained his old
habit of sitting beside the chauffeur in his car; his clothes
consisted of his familiar raincoat seldom surmounted by a hat,
while under it he usually wore a civilian jacket with the party
uniform trousers, or an ordinary lounge suit.
At dinner, there was soup, followed by a meat course, vegetables
and a sweet. Hitler himself ate no meat, but he devoured
astonishing portions of the sweet, and his personal cook, an old
party member, prepared special vegetable dishes for him. But
Hitler placed no vegetarian compulsion on his guests, nor did he
refuse them alcohol in the shape of beer. There was a choice
between beer and lemonade, and it was amusing to watch
newcomers, especially enthusiastic party members, choosing
lemonade, with a side-glance at the temperate Führer, in order
to make a good impression.[/quote]
Hermann Rauschning. (1939). Hitler Speaks. Page 66-67.
HTML https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.505385/page/n65/mode/2up
Page 226:
[quote]Did I know, he continued, that Wagner had attributed much
of the decay of our civilisation to meat-eating? “I don’t touch
meat,” said Hitler, “largely because of what Wagner says on the
subject, and says, I think, absolutely rightly.” So much of the
decay of our civilisation had its origin in the abdomen—chronic
constipation, poisoning of the juices, and the results of
drinking to excess. He did not touch meat or alcohol, or indulge
in the dirty habit of smoking; but his reason had nothing to do
with considerations of health, but was a matter of absolute
conviction. But the world was not ripe for this advance.[/quote]
Although Rauschning was a rightist who became anti-NS,
historians consider his work to generally be credible, and his
description of Hitler's vegetarianism is consistent with other
sources noting Hitler as a vegetarian.
[quote]Hermann Adolf Reinhold Rauschning (7 August 1887 –
February 8, 1982) was a German conservative reactionary[2] who
briefly joined the Nazi movement before breaking with it.[3] He
was the President of the Free City of Danzig from 1933 to 1934,
during which he led the Senate of the Free City of Danzig. In
1934, he renounced Nazi Party membership and in 1936 emigrated
from Germany. He eventually settled in the United States and
began openly denouncing Nazism.[/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Rauschning
In the section following the quote from page 226, Hitler then
talks about Wagner's opera Parsifal.
[quote]Wagner's last opera Parsifal, written in 1882, possibly
contained some elements of his views on animal rights and
vegetarianism, but there is much debate about the extent of any
'message' in it. In 'Wagner and Philosophy' Brian McGee says in
his introduction that in the rest of the book "...I have
discussed the belief about the oneness of all living things,
with its consequent requirement of compassion for animals, on
which his vegetarianism was based, and which found expression in
Parsifal." McGee expands on this in his chapter on Parsifal
(C.16 The Crowning Achievement,s.V):
Even more with animals than with man, he says, does he feel
kinship through suffering, for man by his philosophy can raise
himself to a resignation that transcends his pain, whereas the
mute unreasoning animal can only suffer without comprehending
why. "And so if there is any purpose in all this suffering it
can only be the awakening of pity in man, who thus takes up the
animal's failed existence into himself, and, by perceiving the
error of all existence, becomes the redeemer of the world. This
interpretation will become clearer to you some day from the
third act of Parzival, which takes place on God Friday morning."
Manifestly, then, the Parzival drama had already defined itself
within him as the drama of compassion'. [the quote is from the
'Venice Diary' of 1858 when Wagner was writing the early draft
of Parsifal - and now being strongly influenced Schopenhauer]
After Wagner's letter to Ernst von Weber about vivisection in
1879, Cosima recorded his concern that this would be seen as the
basis for Parsifal, but if McGee is right then the concern was
clearly much deeper and much older.
In Act Three the Knights of the Grail avoid eating meat, though
some argue only from necessity, and below is a scene from Act
One of Parsifal which leads to some of the speculation:
Just at this moment, cries are heard from the Knights: a
flying swan has been shot, and a young man is brought forth, a
bow in his hand and carrying a quiver of matching arrows.
Gurnemanz speaks sternly to the lad and tells him that this is a
holy domain. He then asks the lad if he did this deed and the
lad boasts that if it flies, he can hit it ("Im Fluge treff' ich
was fliegt!") The elderly Knight asks what harm the swan had
done, getting the lad to notice the swan's blood-flecked
remains, limp wings and lifeless eyes. Now remorseful, the young
man breaks his bow and casts it aside. . . . [next scene] The
boy . . . is roughly ejected . . . with a warning not to shoot
swans. A voice from heaven repeats the promise, “The pure fool,
enlightened by compassion." [the boy, or the 'pure fool' is
Parsifal][/quote]
HTML https://ivu.org/history/europe19b/wagner.html
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 16, 2022, 8:51 pm
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[quote]the furnishing simple and without refinement. There was
not a single piece that revealed anything of good personal taste
or artistic value.[/quote]
Simple and without refinement is good personal taste and
artistic value!
[quote]Rauschning was a rightist who became anti-NS[/quote]
Hence he does not understand this.
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Re: Dietary decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 27, 2022, 1:26 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u_sLantkq4
[quote]Global production of cheese is skyrocketing and for many,
it's the first alternative when we quit meat. But dairy products
and cheese especially can have similar impacts on the
environment as meat. In some scenarios, they're even more
harmful to the planet. [/quote]
Whose fault is this again?
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese#Modern_era
[quote]Until its modern spread along with European culture,
cheese was nearly unheard of in east Asian cultures and in the
pre-Columbian Americas and had only limited use in
sub-Mediterranean Africa, mainly being widespread and popular
only in Europe, the Middle East, the Indian subcontinent, and
areas influenced by those cultures. But with the spread, first
of European imperialism, and later of Euro-American culture and
food, cheese has gradually become known and increasingly popular
worldwide.[/quote]
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