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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 2, 2022, 10:50 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/britain-no-longer-hide-behind-110037277.html
[quote]Britain Can No Longer Hide Behind the Myth That Its
Empire Was Benign
...
In the eyes of others, Britain was the purveyor of a liberal
imperialism, or “civilizing mission,” that was the
standard-bearer for all other empires. For sure, there were
blots, like the trade in enslaved peoples, but on history’s
balance sheet, any ill-begotten wealth had been more than atoned
for through Britain’s largesse.
According to empire’s supporters, after spearheading the
abolition movement, Britain launched its civilizing mission,
transforming humanity. Sprawling across a quarter of the globe,
the nineteenth and twentieth-century British Empire was the
largest in history. Its developmentalist policies, which cleaved
to racial hierarchies, allegedly brought 700 million colonized
subjects, considered “backward” and “childlike,” into the modern
world.
When its colonies moved towards independence in the 20th
century, Britain declared its civilizing mission a triumph. Its
subjects had “grown up,” taking their seat at the Commonwealth
of Nations table. Today, the Commonwealth, comprised of 54
countries, most of which were former British colonies, is still
headed by Queen Elizabeth II.[/quote]
False Leftists want "non-whites" to prove they can do grown-up
things (machinism, space travel, etc.) as well as or better than
"whites" can, instead of encouraging them to admit "whites"
really are more grown-up and that is precisely why they are more
evil.
[quote]How we in the present remember the past, and how this
past is deployed, has profound implications. In June 2016, for
instance, Britain voted to leave the European Union, and
memories of empire played no small role. The Conservative
Party’s Brexit campaign touted a “Global Britain” vision, an
Empire 2.0. “Churchill was right when he said that the empires
of the future will be empires of the mind and in expressing our
values I believe that Global Britain is a soft power superpower
and that we can be immensely proud of what we are achieving,”
Prime Minister Boris Johnson recently declared.
How did we arrive here? How do we in the present understand the
past and the ways in which it shapes the world in which we’re
living? Such questions were thrown into relief when the Duke and
Duchess of Cambridge embarked on an eight-day Caribbean tour. It
was intended to commemorate the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee, and to
affirm her authority as the symbolic head of state presiding
over 15 countries comprising the Commonwealth Realm.
Before departing, the young royals were given a history lesson,
and warning, by academics and activists in the form of a letter.
Chronicling Britain’s role in exploiting Jamaica through its use
of enslaved labor and brutal colonial rule, it demanded
accountability. Paying no heed, the duke and duchess forged
ahead. Posters declaring “#SehYuhSorry and make REPARATIONS”
greeted them in Jamaica, and the duke’s expression of “profound
sorrow” for the “appalling atrocity of slavery” did little to
quell demands for a colonial reckoning.
His carefully choreographed presence was part of the problem. In
full white military dress, with the duchess, also clad in white,
by his side, the duke stood in an open-aired Land Rover, once
used by the Queen during her 1952 royal tour, to inspect the
Jamaican Defense Force parade. The optics, reminiscent of Lord
Louis Mountbatten, India’s last viceroy, and his wife Edwina,
during the final days of the Raj, drew swift backlash for their
jaw-dropping colonial symbolism.
Wrapping up his ill-fated trip, the chastened duke turned to the
monarchy’s age-old imperial play book, long an extension of the
British government’s, for answers. Choosing his words carefully,
he reaffirmed his belief in Britain’s civilizing mission,
dedicating himself to the “Commonwealth family,” a cornerstone
of the Conservative Party’s Empire 2.0. Yet, the monarchy’s
ability to maintain its fictions, and Britain’s, clearly hang in
the balance. “This tour has brought into even sharper focus
questions about the past and the future,” the duke conceded.
Questions about Britain’s imperial past have, arguably, never
been more salient, playing out in the nation’s streets, the
floor of Parliament, and in the media. Historians, myself
included, have much to say about this. I maintain that the
question isn’t whether or not Britain’s empire was violent,
because it was. The issues demanding sharper focus are how and
why extraordinary coercion, endemic to the structures and
systems of British rule, was deployed, and what methods Britain
used to cover it up.
During the empire’s heyday, British officials were obsessed with
the “rule of law,” claiming this was the basis of good
government. But good government in empire was liberalism’s fever
dream. Its rule of law codified difference, curtailed freedoms,
expropriated land and property, and ensured a steady stream of
labor for the mines and plantations, the proceeds from which
helped fuel Britain’s economy.
After Britain waged some 250 wars in the nineteenth century to
“pacify” colonial subjects, violent conflicts—big and small—
were recurring as colonial officials imposed and maintained
British sovereignty over populations who ostensibly never had
it. When the colonized demanded basic rights over their own
bodies and freedoms, British officials often criminalized them,
cast their actions—including vandalism, labor strikes, riots,
and full-blown insurgencies—as political threats, and invested
police forces and the military with legally conferred powers for
repression. To justify these measures, Britain deployed its
developmentalist framework, pointing to the “moral effect” of
violence, a necessary element for reforming unruly
“natives.”[/quote]
The British attitude towards those whom they colonized is an
exact parallel of parents' attitude towards their offspring. So
why not emphasize this? Why instead attempt (as the False Left
does) to portray the colonized as somehow more grown-up than the
colonizers?
[quote]By the twentieth century, Britain’s empire was replete
with declarations of martial law and states of emergency needed
to maintain order. A well-oiled bureaucratic and legal machinery
for repression emerged, transferred from one part of empire to
another by colonial and military officials.
But in the post-World War II era of updated humanitarian laws,
and new human rights conventions, British repression—which
included widespread use of torture—was legally and politically
problematic. British governments repeatedly denied their
repressive measures in the empire while ordering the wide-scale
destruction of incriminating evidence. Fragments remained,
however, and historians have reassembled them, puncturing the
myths of paternalism and progress, and demonstrating
liberalism’s perfidiousness across the empire and at home. Our
role now is to ensure that the broader public is aware of our
findings—findings that often confirm the lived experiences and
memories of formerly colonized populations.
Ultimately, Britain’s civilizing mission was always pregnant
with conflict. Even if it took centuries, subject populations
would “grow up,” and Britain would have to concede its sovereign
claims to empire when its discerning eye judged the once
“uncivilized” to be fully evolved. This when was always elusive,
however. That Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas remain in the
Commonwealth Realm, with the Queen as its symbolic head of
state, and the monarchy still peddling the idea of a
“Commonwealth family,” begs the question of whether this when is
still elusive, at least in the minds of some. It is, indeed, a
question the future heir to the throne, and others who maintain
Britain’s uniquely “civilizing” past and present, should
ponder.[/quote]
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
By: rp Date: April 3, 2022, 7:17 am
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This confirms my suspicion that the "British" (Albion)
colonialism was driven more by False Left humanism/paternalism
than right wing ethnotribalism . It's just that the False
Leftists of those times had a more positive view of Western
Civilization than the False Leftists of today.
In terms of anti-colonial propaganda, this could help us as we
can now accuse the False Leftists of sharing the same views as
the colonialists, whereas previously we would only accuse them
of "siding" with the colonialists.
But of course this also means we cannot attack the colonialists
for being ethnotribalists alone.
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 15, 2022, 10:32 pm
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An enemy eulogy:
HTML https://counter-currents.com/2022/05/remembering-hinton-rowan-helper/
[quote]Hinton Rowan Helper was a curious and fascinating figure
from nineteenth-century American history. Although mostly
forgotten today, he was one of the most important and discussed
men in the nation during the lead-up to the Civil War. As an
unswerving race realist and white patriot at a time when whites
were by far the dominant racial group in North America, he was
(and probably still is) ahead of his time.
...
Born in North Carolina in 1829, Helper always had a strong
racial identity. This was solidified when, as a young man, he
was exposed to the incipient Chinese population in California as
well as to the lingering Hispanic and Native American presence
there. He understood the superiority of whites as
civilization-builders and developed a contempt for non-whites.
He also wasn’t shy about expressing this contempt to anyone who
would listen. Filters, apparently, were for the weak.
In The Land of Gold, his memoir of his time in California, he
describes Native Americans as “inexcusably ignorant and
abominably filthy.” He accuses Mexicans of practicing “the
lowest debaucheries throughout the week.” Of the Chinese he
writes, “I cannot perceive what more right these semi-barbarians
have in California than flocks of blackbirds have in a
wheatfield.” Ouch.
He further opines that
[n]o inferior race of men can exist in these United States
without becoming sub-ordinate to the will of the Anglo-Saxons,
or foregoing many of the necessities and comforts of life.
Nothing aroused Helper’s visceral indignation, however, more
than blacks.
...
In his 1867 book, Nojoque, A Question for a Continent, Helper
presented extensive evidence for blacks’ inferiority and argued
for their permanent removal from American life.
...
[Helper] concluded that “from the hair of his head to the
extremities of his hands and feet,“ every part of the Negro,
“however large, or however small, whether internal or external,
whether physical or mental, or moral, loses in comparison with
the white, much in the same ratio or proportion as darkness
loses in comparison with light, or as evil loses in comparison
with good.”
...
He also offers a list of characteristics in which Negroes
compare unfavorably with whites. Included are such subjective
criteria as “curved knees,” “calfless legs,” and “Malodorous
Exhalations.”
...
In 1877, while on a trip to South America, he was forced to stop
in Dakar off the west coast of Africa, and was anxious to view
the Negro in his native habitat. Of course, he was appalled and
disgusted by the poverty and depravity all around, and regretted
that he had no “Orsini bombs” with which to smash it all.
...
Helper conceded that association with whites brought partial
elevation to the Negro, but he felt that the gain,
unfortunately, was offset by a corresponding degradation of the
whites. The presence of large numbers of Negroes in the South
explained the Northern superiority in many fields. “While we are
cursed with the black imps of Africa,” he wrote, “you there are
blessed with the white genii of Europe.”[/quote]
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 2, 2022, 8:52 pm
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With the issue of residential schools recently raised:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/canada-residential-schools/
here is our enemies' perspective:
HTML https://www.eurocanadians.ca/2022/06/the-myth-of-the-native-american-mass-graves.html
[quote]Did you know that the children of the nomadic Siberian
Nenets tribe are sent to boarding school for nine months each
year to learn the basics of civilization?
...
Does this mean they are coerced? Of course not. It’s not the
evil civilized White people forcing them. Like all responsible
parents, Nenet parents who want the best for their children,
know very well that they need to learn how to live in the modern
world.[/quote]
I agree that the Nenet parents betrayed their offspring by not
waging total war on the "whites" to the death rather than
submitting to the previously nonexistent institution of
compulsory schooling. But this does not exonerate the "whites"
from declaring the schools to be compulsory in the first place.
The children were indeed coerced, by a combination of "white"
oppression and their own parents' cowardice.
[quote]After their education which lasts several years, most of
them do not want to return to the tundra. The most gifted become
lawyers, doctors, or researchers, the others find a job of some
kind and integrate themselves into the society that raised them.
Nobody forces them. They themselves choose where they want to
live and how. And that’s a good thing.[/quote]
Did they get to choose whether or not to receive schooling in
the first place? They did not. They were forced. To say they
choose how to live after their compulsory education is no
different than saying victims of torture choose to cooperate
with their torturers after the torture.
[quote]Russians have great respect for the hundreds of ethnic
groups that have lived on their territory since time immemorial.
They want things to go well and everyone to be happy.[/quote]
Oh please:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/msg7661/#msg7661
Continuing:
[quote]And so did the Missionaries who taught the Aboriginals in
residential schools. By vocation they were also sincerely
concerned about their students who just like the Nenets were to
be civilized for their own good.[/quote]
A.k.a. it's OK for missionaries to be "white".
[quote]Since their parents lived in the wilderness sometimes far
from the boarding schools, they could not be sent back to their
families on weekends as they would today. There were no roads or
buses. In order to adapt them as well as possible, it made more
sense to keep these children in boarding school for several
months.[/quote]
It would have made most sense for schools to not be compulsory.
[quote]But despite this long stay away from their parents, many
of them like the prominent Aboriginal playwright Tomson Highway
and the late band chief Cece Hodgson-McCauley greatly enjoyed
their time at their schools. “Nine of the happiest years of my
life were spent at that school…some people have been badmouthing
residential schools for money,” the chief told the Huffington
Post and CBC. (1)[/quote]
Fine, let those who enjoy school attend voluntarily and let
those who do not enjoy school not be forced to attend.
[quote]At the time of the so-called mass graves, the child
mortality rate was close to 40%. Aboriginal people were less
resistant to disease than Europeans. Residential schools were
overcrowded and hygiene was sometimes poor. Malnutrition,
tuberculosis, typhus, Spanish flu (1917-1921) and several other
infectious diseases were rampant. There were no antibiotics to
treat them. Is it any wonder that many died? Of course
not![/quote]
In other words, their deaths could have been avoided if the
schools were less crowded, and the schools would have been less
crowded if attendance had not been compulsory.
[quote]Truth be told, before their evangelization and education
in boarding schools by missionaries, Native Americans were not
noble, good, kind, or innocent as portrayed in the movie. They
were savages of unprecedented cruelty; primitives who practiced
cannibalism and slavery; warriors who spent their time fighting
over territory.[/quote]
No one is claiming Native Americans are flawless (just earlier
in this post I was calling them cowards). Nevertheless,
cannibalism of war enemies is far better than killing innocent
victims expressly for the purpose of eating them. "Whites" were
also practicing slavery and fighting over territory. But Native
Americans did not have compulsory schooling. So who are worse?
[quote]You can easily see this hatred of White Catholics and
Whites in general almost on a daily basis in the media and in
the movies.[/quote]
For good reason!
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 9, 2022, 9:00 pm
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HTML https://counter-currents.com/2022/06/thomas-nelson-pages-social-life-in-old-virginia-before-the-war/
[quote]What was life like in the antebellum South? Obviously
it’s going to be a matter of perspective. Thomas Nelson Page
provided one such viewpoint, the type we seldom hear about
lately. He was a lawyer in his early career and a diplomat
later, but is best known as a writer.
...
They possessed the faults and the virtues of young men of their
kind and condition. They were given to self-indulgence; they
were not broad in their limitations; they were apt to contemn
what did not accord with their own established views (for their
views were established before their mustaches); they were
wasteful of time and energies beyond belief; they were addicted
to the pursuit of pleasure. They exhibited the customary
failings of their kind in a society of an aristocratic
character. But they possessed in full measure the corresponding
virtues. They were brave, they were generous, they were
high-spirited. Indulgence in pleasure did not destroy
them.[/quote]
I hardly need to point out that what Page calls "aristocratic
character" is actually barbarism.
[quote]he had nothing but praise for the young ladies:
She was the incontestable proof of their gentility. In right of
her blood (the beautiful Saxon, tempered by the influences of
the genial Southern clime), she was exquisite, fine, beautiful;
a creature of peach-blossom and snow; languid, delicate, saucy;
now imperious, now melting, always bewitching. She was not
versed in the ways of the world, but she had no need to be; she
was better than that; she was well bred. She had not to learn to
be a lady, because she was born one. Generations had given her
that by heredity.
Page goes on for page after page singing the praises of Southern
belles.[/quote]
It can be reduced to three words: high sexual dimorphism.
[quote]I recall a butler, “Uncle Tom,” an austere gentleman, who
was the terror of the juniors of the connection. One of the
children, after watching him furtively as he moved about with
grand air, when he had left the room and his footsteps had died
away, crept over and asked her grandmother, his mistress, in an
awed whisper, “Grandma, are you ‘fraid of Unc’ Tom?”
The Driver was the ally of the boys, the worshipper of the
girls, and consequently had an ally in their mother, the
mistress. As the head of the stable, he was an important
personage. This comradeship was never forgotten; it lasted
through life. The years might grow on him, his eyes might become
dim; but he was left in command even when he was too feeble to
hold the horses; and though he might no longer grasp the reins,
he at least held the title, and to the end was always “the
Driver of Mistiss’s carriage.”
The rest of the household servants included the following:
Other servants too there were with special places and
privileges, — gardeners and “boys about the house,” comrades of
the boys; and “own maids,” for each girl had her “own maid.”
They all formed one great family in the social structure now
passed away, a structure incredible by those who knew it not,
and now, under new conditions, almost incredible by those who
knew it best.
...
Nearly the entire second half of the book is about various
aristocratic diversions such as horse racing, fox hunting, and
square dancing[/quote]
Again, Page's notion of "aristocratic" is everything but.
[quote]Nearing the end, the author begins a summation:
That the social life of the Old South had its faults I am far
from denying. What civilization has not? But its virtues far
outweighed them; its graces were never equalled. For all its
faults, it was, I believe, the purest, sweetest life ever
lived.[/quote]
Because apparently fox hunting, horse racing and being waited on
by slaves is so much purer than asceticism (which is the true
aristocratic path).....
[quote]Then he names Dixie’s accomplishments, a long list which
includes the following:
It christianized the negro race in a little over two centuries,
impressed upon it regard for order, and gave it the only
civilization it has ever possessed since the dawn of history. It
has maintained the supremacy of the Caucasian race, upon which
all civilization seems now to depend.[/quote]
I will just post the photo our enemies included to show that
Page's face is about as "aristocratic" as his writing is:
HTML https://counter-currents.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/thomasnelsonpage.jpg
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 25, 2022, 4:09 am
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Our enemies in their own words on what they think of their
victims:
HTML https://www.eurocanadians.ca/2022/06/two-white-girls-call-for-re-imagining-the-future-of-canmore-alberta-as-an-indigenous-land-where-all-living-beings-are-respected.html
[quote]Most Eurocanadians are not “settlers on these lands”.
Although we are indigenous to Europe, Canada is our homeland
too.
Stop marginalising us in the country that our ancestors (not the
Native tribes’ ancestors) built.
I am also not subject to Treaty 7 of 1877; I have no affiliation
with the relevant tribes to the treaty. I am a subject of Her
Majesty the Queen in right of Canada.
...
at no point in this treaty are the Indigenous nation signatories
referred to as sovereign or self-determining. They are, however,
referred to as “Her [Queen Victoria’s] Indian subjects”, and
that the chiefs are responsible for the “faithful performance…
of such obligations as should be assumed by them”.
It is stated directly:
the Blackfeet, Blood, Piegan, Sarcee, Stony and other
Indians inhabiting the district hereinafter more fully described
and defined, do hereby cede, release, surrender, and yield up to
the Government of Canada for Her Majesty the Queen and her
successors for ever, all their rights, titles, and privileges
whatsoever to the lands included within the following limits… to
have and to hold the same to Her Majesty the Queen and her
successors for ever.
...
One has to wonder what such an indigenous declaration of
sovereignty would really reward them with though. Any sensible
person would not want to see, for example, the entirety of the
Province of Saskatchewan become an enormous version of Red
Pheasant reserve. Then again, if I was dealing with sensible
people, my article for the CEC would be unnecessary. I quote my
chapter ‘On Imperial European Civilisation’: “the conquest of
the continent known at present as North America by the European
empires was one of the greatest events to occur in human
history”, and that we must not be ashamed for our ancestors’
disruption of the Stone Age societies that were here first.
Even as I write this, I interrupted my work to go get a Swiffer
to dust my desk. What a brilliant innovation that I can, for a
low cost, buy a disposable slice of fabric impregnated (is that
a triggering word for feminists?) with static electricity to
better remove dust from flat surfaces. Would such an innovation
have ever been seen on this continent if its development had not
risen above and beyond the hunter-gatherer level? Not a chance.
HTML https://www.eurocanadians.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/unnamed-4.png[/quote]
Our enemies' claim that the inhabitants of North America were
all hunter-gatherers/nomads prior to Western colonialism is of
course a lie:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_in_Canada#Archaic_period
[quote]The North American climate stabilized by 8000 BCE (10,000
years ago); climatic conditions were very similar to
today's.[67] This led to widespread migration, cultivation and
later a dramatic rise in population all over the Americas.[67]
Over the course of thousands of years, Indigenous peoples of the
Americas domesticated, bred and cultivated a large array of
plant species. These species now constitute 50–60% of all crops
in cultivation worldwide.[68]
...
The Woodland cultural period dates from about 2,000 BCE – 1,000
CE, and has locales in Ontario, Quebec, and Maritime
regions.[80] The introduction of pottery distinguishes the
Woodland culture from the earlier Archaic stage inhabitants.
Laurentian people of southern Ontario manufactured the oldest
pottery excavated to date in Canada.[69] They created
pointed-bottom beakers decorated by a cord marking technique
that involved impressing tooth implements into wet clay.
Woodland technology included items such as beaver incisor
knives, bangles, and chisels. The population practising
sedentary agricultural life ways continued to increase on a diet
of squash, corn, and bean crops.[69][/quote]
Also, the following invention is (not parody!) what makes
Western colonialism justified, according to our enemies:
HTML https://pipevet.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/e3fc86710873c1f6bfe347c6a9371d8d/1/2/123766.jpg
And this is a good example of why everyone on our side must ASAP
give up thinking that racists can be taught to stop being
racist:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/superiority-cannot-be-taught/
The only way to end racism is to end eliminate racist
bloodlines.
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
By: rp Date: June 25, 2022, 12:31 pm
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"We don't owe fairness to.anyone that is not our people"
Spoken like a proper tribalist.
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
By: SirGalahad Date: June 25, 2022, 10:16 pm
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The first people to say "We conquered this land fair and square"
are simultaneously the first people to cry out "This is white
genocide! I can't believe you want to wipe out our beautiful
cultures! I thought you leftists loved diversity!" the moment
they're met with not even actual widespread violence against
"white" people, but voluntary immigration. The [s]Jew[/s]
cracker cries out in pain as he strikes you
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
By: guest30 Date: June 30, 2022, 3:49 pm
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[quote]"...Most Eurocanadians are not “settlers on these lands”.
Although we are indigenous to Europe, Canada is our homeland
too. ..."[/quote]
Jews : "...Most of Jewish people are not "settlers on these
lands". Althouth we are indigenous to Europe, Canaan is our
homeland too. ..."
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 16, 2022, 9:10 pm
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Our enemies on Calhoun:
HTML https://www.amren.com/features/2022/07/americas-greatest-political-thinker-since-the-founders/
[quote]Calhoun wrote:
I only know of one principle to make a nation great, and
that is, to protect every citizen in the lawful pursuit of his
business. He will then feel that he is backed by the government,
that its arm is his arms, and will rejoice in its increased
strength and prosperity. Protection and patriotism are
reciprocal. This is the road that all great nations have
trod.(94)[/quote]
OK, but who is "every citizen"? Certainly not everyone who wants
to be a citizen:
[quote]Calhoun’s doctrine does not serve everyone. Richard
Hofstadter had reason to call him the “Marx of the master
class.” Progressives would say his views bias the state in favor
of property holders and current citizens. It means that
non-citizens, those outside the state (Indian tribes), and those
not represented by the system have no stake in the Republic. In
Calhoun’s time, it also meant that the United States defended
slaveholders and their property, putting slaves and even
abolitionists outside the polity. (We should remember that
Virginia executed John Brown for treason against the
Commonwealth, not just for murder.)[/quote]
"Every citizen" = those in the ingroup only
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/leftist-vs-rightist-moral-circles/
Continuing:
[quote]Calhoun took for granted that the expansion of
[s]American[/s] civilization meant displacing Indian tribes, and
saw no contradiction between this and republicanism.[/quote]
In fact, Calhoun was the one practicing tribalism. And yes, I
agree there is no contradiction between tribalism and
republicanism; the latter is indeed one way to efficiently
organize the former. If anything, it is absolute monarchism
which is more risky for tribalism, because then all it takes is
an anti-tribalist monarch to put an end to it. Imagine if John
Brown were absolute monarch of America! It is to prevent such a
possibility that tribalists feel safer with republican
separation of powers across multiple branches of government that
function to restrain one another.
[quote]Calhoun’s second main argument is that[s] America[/s]’s
racially discriminatory policies, including slavery, unify white
citizens, protect democracy, and mitigate class
differences.[/quote]
I agree with Calhoun. This is why True Leftists cannot be
democrats.
[quote]Calhoun also understood that a common economic and
political interest in slavery made a broad commitment to white
democracy possible in South Carolina.[/quote]
This is what actual democracy was intended to be about:
political decisions being made by the will of the majority of
the demos, which is "white"-only. This maximizes the chances
that the decisions are made with "white" tribal interests in
mind.
[quote]He also understood a defensive stance in politics is
always doomed. Thus, he defended slavery as a “positive
good,”[/quote]
Then why not put "whites" into slavery also? (Of course we know
what Calhoun really means: slavery is a positive good for those
who are not slaves.)
[quote]Calhoun argued that slavery also promoted social peace
and served white workers’ interests.[/quote]
See?
[quote]In response to the slogan “no one is free unless all are
free,” Calhoun might respond that no one has ever been free
unless others were subjugated.[/quote]
Calhoun's notion of freedom is the standard "white" notion of
"freedom". They have to be actively oppressing others just to
feel neutral.
(If there was only one person in existence, then no one is
subjugated, so is that person "unfree"? Perhaps Yahweh created
the material world because Yahweh himself thinks like Calhoun
and hence felt "unfree" with no one to subjugate?)
[quote]Slavery promoted republicanism by giving poor whites a
stake in the system, rich whites a reason to care about poor
whites, and both a reason to defend the government.[/quote]
I agree completely. This is why I hate slavery: it is
sustainable evil.
[quote]“Are we to associate with ourselves, as equals,
companions and fellow-citizens, the Indian and mixed races of
Mexico?” he asked. “I would consider such association as
degrading ourselves and fatal to our institution.”[/quote]
I agree that it would be fatal to Western institutions, which
only proves such institutions should never have existed in the
first place.
[quote]He [Calhoun] could support taking Oregon, California, and
New Mexico on the assumption that they would one day be filled
with white people, and thus could be incorporated into the
United States, even if they might be free states. But the United
States could not conquer and incorporate a nation of nonwhite
people without destroying its form of government[/quote]
Based on its tribalist motivations, this form of government
surely deserves to be destroyed.
[quote]Calhoun warned Americans that “[liberty] is a reward to
be earned, not a blessing to be gratuitously lavished on all
alike — a reward for the intelligent, the patriotic, the
virtuous and deserving — and not a boon to be bestowed on a
people too ignorant, degraded and vicious, to be capable either
of appreciating or enjoying it.” [/quote]
In short, Calhoun views slave owners as "the intelligent, the
patriotic, the virtuous and deserving", and abolitionists as
"ignorant, degraded and vicious".
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