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New Zealand
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 12, 2021, 1:17 am
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HTML https://us.yahoo.com/huffpost/maori-politician-crown-racism-033454875.html
[quote]The co-leader of New Zealand’s Māori Party didn’t
mince words Tuesday when asked about Meghan Markle and Prince
Harry’s revelation that the royal family were concerned about
the color of their baby’s skin before he was born.
“The Crown? I mean, I don’t know why everyone’s so surprised
that the Crown’s racist,” said Debbie Ngārewa-Packer, a
member of New Zealand’s Parliament who leads the Māori
Party alongside Rawiri Waititi.
...
A video of the moment, captured by Newshub, was shared on social
media, earning the lawmaker praise for her incisive reply.
Ngārewa-Packer has been a fierce critic of the Crown. In
her maiden speech to Parliament last year, she condemned the
historic treatment of New Zealand’s Māori people by the
royal family’s representatives.
“I stand here as a descendant of a people who survived a
holocaust, a genocide, sponsored by this House and members of
Parliament whose portraits still hang from the walls,” she told
the House in her powerful opening statement. “Members of
Parliament who sought our extermination and created legislation
to achieve it.”
They took her people’s lands, imprisoned them without trial,
murdered and raped women and children, and deliberately
“engineered our displacement for generations to come,” she said.
Māori people for decades suffered losses of life, culture,
land, resources and power to the British Crown following the
1840 signing of the Treaty of Waitangi, the nation’s founding
document.[/quote]
For those unaware, it's OK to be "white" when signing a treaty:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi
[quote]The text of the treaty includes a preamble and three
articles. It is bilingual, with the Māori text inaccurately
translated from the English.
Article one of the Māori text grants governance rights to
the Crown while the English text cedes "all rights and powers of
sovereignty" to the Crown.
Article two of the Māori text establishes that Māori
will retain full chieftainship over their lands, villages and
all their treasures while the English text establishes the
continued ownership of the Māori over their lands and
establishes the exclusive right of pre-emption of the Crown.
Article three gives Māori people full rights and
protections as British subjects.
The Māori text and the English text differ in meaning
significantly, particularly in relation to the meaning of having
and ceding sovereignty.[/quote]
It's also OK to be "white" after signing the treaty:
[quote]During the second half of the 19th century Māori
generally lost control of much of the land they had owned,
sometimes through legitimate sale, but often due to unfair
land-deals, settlers occupying land that had not been sold, or
through outright confiscations in the aftermath of the New
Zealand Wars. In the period following the New Zealand Wars, the
New Zealand government mostly ignored the treaty, and a
court-case judgement in 1877 declared it to be "a simple
nullity".[/quote]
NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.
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Re: New Zealand
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 7, 2022, 3:25 pm
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HTML https://au.news.yahoo.com/ardern-issues-historic-maori-apology-010645674.html
[quote]"The Crown profoundly regrets its horrific and needless
acts of war and raupatu (land confiscation) which have caused
you and your hapu (tribe) inter-generational suffering," Ms
Ardern said.[/quote]
But does it? Ardern may regret it as an individual, but does she
speak for the British Crown? Indeed, if she does regret it as an
individual, then why keep the colonial flag and a Windsor as
head of state? (Also, "clan" is a better translation of "hapu"
than "tribe".)
[quote]"Instead of respecting your mana whakahaere (authority),
the Crown killed and injured your people, and pillaged your land
and property."
In the late 19th century, locals were pressured to open up to
European settlement and run a railroad through Maniapoto
territory, which led to aggressive land acquisitions from Maori
hands.
...
Ms Ardern acknowledged the government of the day was responsible
for "devastating long-term prejudice".
"As a result, your hapu and whanau (families) have faced
significant socio-economic deprivation and lived in worse
conditions than non-Maori. You were prevented from reaching your
full social and economic potential and had to fight to maintain
your Maniapoto identity and language."[/quote]
No, don't say "worse conditions than non-Maori"! Firstly, it is
generally untrue that the colonized people known as Maori lived
in worse conditions than other similarly colonized peoples
around the world. Secondly, who are "non-Maori"?
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_people#Etymology
[quote]the word distinguished ordinary mortal human
beings—tāngata māori—from deities and spirits
(wairua).[9][i][/quote]
Just plainly and simply say "worse conditions than "whites"",
OK? Or better yet, say "worse conditions than "whites (including
Jews)"":
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_New_Zealand
[quote]Joel Samuel Polack, the best known and most influential
of them, arrived in New Zealand in 1831.[2] Polack, an
English-born Jew, opened a general store at Kororareka in the
Bay of Islands
...
John Israel Montefiore, also an English-born Jew, left Sydney,
Australia for New Zealand in October 1831. He became a merchant
in Tauranga and Kororareka, and later, Auckland, where he
featured prominently in civic affairs.[3]
Returning briefly to England in 1837, Polack wrote two popular
books about his 1831–37 travels in New Zealand. In addition to
being entertaining travel guides to new tastes (hearts of palm,
for example), sights and sounds (Māori tattoos, exotic
birds), etc., his books were a rallying cry for commercial
development, specifically for flax production which he believed
was possible on a lucrative scale.[2]
...
With the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi on 6 February 1840,
the way was cleared for colonisation and the first legitimate
immigrants. The British government and the speculative New
Zealand Company,[4] among whose financial backers was the
wealthy Anglo-Jewish Goldsmid family[5] anticipated (wrongly, as
it turned out, at least in the next few decades) that land would
increase in value, and encouraged a flood of subsidised mostly
English and Scottish emigrants.
Abraham Hort, Jr, related by family and business ties[6] to the
Mocatta & Goldsmid bank, arrived in Wellington on the barque
Oriental on 31 January 1840[7] accompanied by two brothers he
employed as cabinet makers, Solomon and Benjamin Levy. These
were the first recognisably Jewish names in this early wave of
post-Treaty settlement.
Hort's business[8] and civic leadership[9] was quickly
recognised in the new colony. Within months of his arrival he
was elected one of the two constables for Wellington's fledgling
police force.[10] Hort was a promoter of early Wellington civic
affairs, Jewish and non-Jewish.[11]
David Nathan was an important Auckland businessman and
benefactor, who is perhaps best known for establishing the firm
L.D. Nathan and Company. He left Sydney for the Bay of Islands
on the Achilles on 21 February 1840.[12]
Nathaniel William Levin was another early immigrant, who became
a notable merchant in Wellington and a politician. He arrived in
Wellington on 30 May 1841 on the Arachne.[13]
...
The first Jewish ceremony in New Zealand was the marriage of
businessman David Nathan to Rosetta Aarons, the widow of Captain
Michael Aarons, on 31 October 1841.[18] Their daughter, Sarah
Nathan, born 10 January 1843, was the first known Jewish birth
in New Zealand. The second ceremony, the marriage of Esther
Solomon and Benjamin Levy was on 1 June 1842 in Wellington,
according to the ketubah contract in Hebrew, witnessed by Alfred
Hort (another of Abraham Hort Senior's sons)[19] and another
early Jewish emigrant Nathaniel William Levin. Levin, for whom
the town of Levin was later named, soon married Hort Senior's
daughter, Jessy, further connecting the small group of early
Wellington Jews.[20]
In early 1843, Abraham Hort, Sr. arrived in Wellington, where he
organised and promoted the Jewish community, with the approval
of London's Chief Rabbi. Hort brought with him David Isaacs,
also an alumnus of the Jews' Hospital. Isaacs served as Mohel
(to perform circumcisions), shochet (kosher butcher) and chazan
(Cantor/lay leader for services). The first religious service
was performed soon after, on 7 January 1843. A few months later,
the new community celebrated the birth of Benjamin's and
Esther's first child, Henry Emanuel Levy,[21] which Hort
documented in a series of letters sent to The Jewish Chronicle
(the premier London Jewish newspaper of the time).
...
Solomon Levy quickly married Jane Harvey, the 14-year-old
Christian shipmate of Esther Solomon and Elizabeth Levy.
Although only one of his eight surviving children chose Judaism
as a religion, Levy helped found the first Wellington synagogue
...
gold rushes in New Zealand in the 1860s, the Central Otago Gold
Rush from 1861 and the West Coast Gold Rush from 1864 shifted
their businesses from centres like Auckland and Wellington to
new towns and (like Sir Julius Vogel) to Dunedin in the South
Island. In 1862, the congregation in Dunedin had 43 members.[27]
Those drawn to gold strikes in the 1860s and after, were
instrumental in founding businesses and helping to erect the
many synagogues that were established at this time.[1]
...
Three Prime Ministers have Jewish ancestry, although only Julius
Vogel, who served twice during the 1870s, practised Judaism.
Francis Bell was PM very briefly in 1925. Former Prime Minister
John Key was born to an Austrian Jewish mother[34][35] and is
thus considered Jewish under Halakha, though he is not
practising.[/quote]
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But I digress.
Back to first link:
[quote]Treaty Negotiations Minister Andrew Little said he wanted
Sunday's apology to "lay the groundwork for a new partnership to
provide for the future wellbeing and prosperity of Maniapoto".
"When Maniapoto rangatira (Maori chiefs) signed the Treaty in
1840, they expected to build a partnership with the Crown," he
said.
"For more than a century after this, the Crown repeatedly broke
the promises it made leading to devastating loss of life and
land, and social and economic deprivation."[/quote]
OK, so when will anyone be held accountable for this? Empty
words mean nothing and certainly do not lay the groundwork for
anything positive.
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Re: New Zealand
By: antihellenistic Date: December 7, 2022, 5:50 pm
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[quote]But does it? Ardern may regret it as an individual, but
does she speak for the British Crown? Indeed, if she does regret
it as an individual, then why keep the colonial flag and a
Windsor as head of state? (Also, "clan" is a better translation
of "hapu" than "tribe".)
...
OK, so when will anyone be held accountable for this? Empty
words mean nothing and certainly do not lay the groundwork for
anything positive.[/quote]
Maybe this poster will make them act positively if it really
conducted today
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Coming_South_%28AWM_ARTV09225%29.jpg
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