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       Re: Non-Aryan maturity
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 2, 2024, 10:41 pm
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       "But do you agree that preference for boobs over ass is a sign
       of possible neoteny"
       Not generally, because this presumes that the above is the only
       mechanism that produces this preference. In reality, there are
       likely to be multiple mechanisms leading to the same preference.
       Besides, female infants also breastfeed. Should not the above
       model therefore apply to them also?
       "I myself can't stand extremely large breasted women (who more
       often than not have non Aryan faces). On the other hand, women
       with a somewhat "curvy" (endomorphic) somatotype, and hence a
       somewhat large posterior, I am attracted to provided they have
       an Aryan face."
       Please post pictures.
       #Post#: 25744--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Non-Aryan maturity
       By: rp Date: April 3, 2024, 7:10 am
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       Simrat Kaur from facial Aryanism is somewhat curvy body, but her
       breasts are not too big.
       #Post#: 25746--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Non-Aryan maturity
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 3, 2024, 2:54 pm
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       Now I remember:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/misinformation-about-racial-origins/msg22040/#msg22040
       But whereas in the meme you posted the alpha views this shape as
       a sign of fertility, in our earlier discussion you said:
       [quote]In my case, it was a certain matriarchal impulse that
       made me attracted to them, the feeling that a woman like Kaur
       would be able to provide me with "love" and "warmth" of a
       "caring mother/older sister".[/quote]
       So you seem to be seeking closer to what the beta in the meme is
       seeking, but find it in the alpha's preference? But if so, then
       why dislike large breasts?
       Even more confusingly, you later say:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/misinformation-about-racial-origins/msg22043/#msg22043
       [quote]With an ectomorph it is different. In particular, if they
       are shorter than me, although I feel sexually attracted to them,
       the feeling of attraction (while certainly surpassing my
       feelings of attraction toward skinny-fat women with Aryan faces
       of similar stature, to the point of manifesting in reproductive
       desire) is not the same. I recognize that the height difference
       between genders is simply a biological fact, but one cannot deny
       the sexual dynamics at play. It is not necessarily a negative
       thing, as I view them to be more neotenous (perhaps even more so
       than myself), and I am drawn toward their childlike innocence. I
       feel this way with shorter skinny-fat women with Aryan faces as
       well, but with them, this attraction manifests in a somewhat
       patriarchal impulse of a "caring father/older brother".
       On the other hand, an ectomorphic woman who is as facially
       beautiful as Kaur but taller than me would certainly illicit a
       greater feeling of attraction (even reproductive desire) than
       both ectomorphic women of smaller stature with Aryan faces and
       non-ectomorphic women with Aryan faces of similar stature (i.e.
       Kaur herself).[/quote]
       This would suggest you also seek what the alpha seeks, but find
       it in the ectomorph? And if so, is it the case that you were
       attracted only to curvy bodies when you were younger, and only
       developed an attraction for thin bodies as you grew up (as
       depicted in the alpha pathway of the meme, but substituting your
       preferences)?
       (In contrast, I want to emphasize that my preference for
       ectomorphs is precisely because they appear less fertile.)
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       Re: Aryan bones
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 23, 2024, 8:27 pm
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       Previously:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-bones/msg10572/#msg10572
       Our enemies are still doing it, this time with kids:
  HTML https://vdare.com/public_upload/publication/featured_image/61846/vdareseen.jpeg
       (Is rp paying attention? This is an Oval.)
       Contrast with, for example:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-ahimsa/msg7870/#msg7870
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-ahimsa/msg19139/#msg19139
       Who looks more dangerous? (Hint: ask the fish!)
       #Post#: 26094--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: Aryan bones
       By: rp Date: April 24, 2024, 1:18 am
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       "Is rp paying attention? This is an Oval."
       I see. I have been using the egg shape as a benchmark ever since
       you mentioned it in the other thread.
       #Post#: 26131--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: Aryan bones
       By: rp Date: April 26, 2024, 1:27 am
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       Wait, weren't rightists like Duchesne saying that "Whites" are
       superior to "non Whites" because "Whites" are more mature? I
       guess it's ok for "Whites" to be mature.
       #Post#: 26611--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Non-Aryan maturity
       By: rp Date: May 31, 2024, 9:15 am
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       Example of non-Aryan reproductive maturity
  HTML https://people.com/texas-dad-to-be-dead-electrocuted-while-trimming-tree-8655820
       [quote]
       A 20-year-old man, who was expecting his first child, died by
       electrocution while trimming a tree on May 25.
       [/quote]
       Face:
  HTML https://people.com/thmb/MXjXaZUfmgwC4GBJxU57EoBqo9c=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(758x236:760x238):format(webp)/Carl-David-Blaylock-053024-e9025bdbc89140dab1b30923746a4b6d.jpg
       #Post#: 26612--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Non-Aryan maturity
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 31, 2024, 3:49 pm
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       At least he won't be reproducing again!  ;D Seriously, though,
       20 by ancient standards was not a young age for reproducing, so
       I'm not sure if this is the best example. Even with present-day
       cases, we could go a lot younger, such as:
  HTML https://au.news.yahoo.com/australias-youngest-parents-teen-couple-with-two-kids-under-two-38824189.html
       [quote]16-year-old couple Mollie Syrigos and her boyfriend Oscar
       Wilks, labelled Australia's youngest parents ... The couple met
       when they were both 12 and became pregnant with their first
       child Theodore just over a year later[/quote]
       [img]
  HTML https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/9KdkOznsg4cEiRO6c_El_A--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/os/en-AU/homerun/y7.yahoo7news/d557ed0b13e650d06697e79fd467dc48[/img]
       In any case, I remain ambivalent about using this as an
       indicator of maturity, as it's not like reproducing requires
       exceptional skill.... I still think genuine prodigal talent
       (which is also much statistically rarer) is likely to be a
       better indicator.
       #Post#: 26667--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Non-Aryan maturity
       By: rp Date: June 4, 2024, 2:54 pm
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       "20 by ancient standards was not a young age for reproducing"
       But I recall another post of yours where you, referring to a
       paedomorphic Chinese women who had reproduced before 25, said,
       "Aryans do not reproduce so early".
       "In any case, I remain ambivalent about using this as an
       indicator of maturity, as it's not like reproducing requires
       exceptional skill.."
       But you have previously stated that neotenous people reproduce
       late due to late sexual maturation.
       #Post#: 26668--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Non-Aryan maturity
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 4, 2024, 5:40 pm
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       I presume you are referring to:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg7737/#msg7737
       [quote]The truly neotenous do not reproduce so early, as (by
       definition of the term) our youth is extended. Many of us never
       reproduce at all. Padeomorphs, on the other hand, tend to be
       highly fertile (and possessing high sex drive). This confirms
       what I explained a long time ago: paedomorphy is a mere
       superficial effect not caused by neoteny[/quote]
       This is referring to someone who facially appears immature,
       whereupon their having reproduced is a way to debunk the claim
       that they are immature in actuality.
       In contrast, the face you posted looks fully mature, thus it
       would not be visually surprising to see a face like that with
       offspring. Therefore to cite such a face having offspring is not
       particularly useful.
       "But you have previously stated that neotenous people reproduce
       late due to late sexual maturation."
       Yes, but other people who reproduce late are non-neotenous
       people who would have preferred to reproduce early but who
       needed a long time to become economically ready or to find a
       reproductive partner, whereas other people who reproduce early
       are people (including neotenous) who were not given a choice.
       The point is that age of reproduction involves too many
       overlapping variables to be useful as a measure of maturity.
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