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Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: September 14, 2022, 12:59 pm
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I see, shows from, say, the nineties or naughties I gather,
hence your name.
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Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 14, 2022, 1:05 pm
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Please feel welcome to discuss Counterculture era works here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/
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Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: Polinc_Socjus
Date: September 16, 2022, 2:01 am
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--- Quote ---
> "Incidentally, what is your opinion on the animated series
Steven Universe?"
>
> I have never watched it and have no plans to.
--- End Quote ---
There's this Youtuber called Lily Orchard who did it so you
don't have to.
HTML https://youtu.be/flLEr_sYC-k
She points out that the show is badly made all around, has bad
representation, and "woobiefies space fascists colonizers."
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Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 1, 2022, 5:39 pm
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HTML https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/25/us/sundance-jihad-rehab-meg-smaker.html
--- Quote ---
> Meg Smaker felt exhilarated last November. After 16 months
filming inside a Saudi rehabilitation center for accused
terrorists, she learned that her documentary “Jihad Rehab” was
invited to the 2022 Sundance Festival, one of the most
prestigious showcases in the world.
--- End Quote ---
The title of the documentary alone tells us all we need to know
about Smaker's worldview.
--- Quote ---
> But attacks would come from the left, not the right. Arab and
Muslim filmmakers and their white supporters accused Ms. Smaker
of Islamophobia and American propaganda. Some suggested her race
was disqualifying, a white woman who presumed to tell the story
of Arab men.
> ...
> Ms. Smaker’s film has become near untouchable, unable to reach
audiences. Prominent festivals rescinded invitations, and
critics in the documentary world took to social media and
pressured investors, advisers and even her friends to withdraw
names from the credits. She is close to broke.
--- End Quote ---
:)
--- Quote ---
> Many Arab and Muslim filmmakers — who like others in the
industry struggle for money and recognition — denounced “Jihad
Rehab” as offering an all too familiar take. They say Ms. Smaker
is the latest white documentarian to tell the story of Muslims
through a lens of the war on terror. These documentary makers,
they say, take their white, Western gaze and claim to film
victims with empathy.
>
> Assia Boundaoui, a filmmaker, critiqued it for Documentary
magazine.
>
> “To see my language and the homelands of folks in my community
used as backdrops for white savior tendencies is nauseating,”
she wrote. “The talk is all empathy, but the energy is Indiana
Jones.”
> ...
> “When I, a practicing Muslim woman, say that this film is
problematic,” wrote Jude Chehab, a Lebanese American
documentarian, “my voice should be stronger than a white woman
saying that it isn’t. Point blank.”
--- End Quote ---
More from Boundaoui here:
HTML https://twitter.com/assuss/status/1469341071020810240
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> when will these Orientalism-steeped-in-Islamopobia takes by
white folks become faux pas?
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[img]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fdl-TK7UoAEIpZg?format=png&name=small[/img]
[img]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fdl-XJOUAAA0CC9?format=png&name=small[/img]
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Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: acc9
Date: November 6, 2022, 4:51 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWwbiCWmuw
A sample of rarely found MVs from Mainland China, this one with
Li Jian, one of their most popular singers today, has potential
for better results if not for the constant appearances of
"White" faces and "Western" connoted props/backgrounds. I think
it probably has to do with lack of confidence on the part of its
producer/director in their own effort, hence the 'rather odd
addition' to either make the MV more attractive to local
West-bounders and appealing to the rest of the world. What a
shame!
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Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 6, 2022, 5:02 pm
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"Mainland China"
Please call it "New China" (like Xi always does), to distinguish
it from the true (ancient) China that we want to bring back.
"constant appearances of "White" faces and "Western" connoted
props/backgrounds."
HTML https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg16108/#msg16108
Now in MVs too! And it's not just any "whites", it's "whites"
deliberately costumed in colonial-era clothes FFS! (And what's
with the recurring superimposed Italian text??) You can't make
this shit up.....
Note also the indescribably spiritless melody of the above song
itself. This is what a Eurocentrist sounds like. Contrast with
Counterculture-era MVs/songs which tried to awaken blood memory
of ancient China. For example:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuAaHqDmkNg
In the storyline of this MV, the modern guy ultimately declines
(2:40) to be taken back to ancient times. I guess the MV you
posted can be viewed as an unofficial sequel to this one.....
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest78
Date: November 21, 2022, 1:49 pm
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China has a soft power deficiency
--- Quote ---
> Korea has Kpop, Japan has anime, but what does China have? Why
is it hard for us to think of anything 'cool' about China, and
why is that the case?
>
> Timestamps
> 0:00 Intro
> 0:45 The definition of soft power
> 3:58 The problem: China's soft power deficiency
> 9:23 China's historically attractive soft power + modern
influences (Douyin makeup, Genshin)
> 14:28 Discussion on personal experiences, China's censorship
and geopolitics
> 20:51 Shambaugh's conclusion / Outro
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haYdFJUDZbE
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Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 27, 2022, 12:47 am
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Just when I thought the Eurocentrism could not possibly get any
worse, this shows up:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dSZevEPGs4
HTML https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png
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Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 27, 2022, 6:40 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/west-handed-classical-music-over-060000935.html
First the good news:
--- Quote ---
> Classical music in Britain is in trouble. It’s not merely
because the infrastructure of the venues, orchestras and groups
that sustain the art form have suffered from underfunding for
decades. Nor can we pin all the blame on the body blow that many
have just received from Arts Council England (ACE) funding cuts,
in which the Britten Sinfonia lost all its funding, the London
Sinfonietta lost 41 per cent, and the London Symphony, London
Philharmonic and Philharmonia orchestras all lost 12 per cent.
>
> Nor is it solely down to the marginalisation of the discipline
in UK schools, where enrolments for GCSE Music have declined by
19 per cent since 2011. And don’t blame the public: as Claire
Allfree reported earlier this month, a healthy appetite for
classical music is just waiting to be tapped. Classical-music
streaming figures are higher than ever – even if, through a
mixture of arrogance and incompetence, BBC Radio 3 and Classic
FM are failing to capitalise.
--- End Quote ---
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/plebian-hubris/
Continuing:
--- Quote ---
> The sad truth is that among Britain’s upper echelons, the
situation is very different from that of half a century ago.
Now, classical music and opera arouse too much embarrassment or
(worse) resentment and suspicion.
--- End Quote ---
In other words, the Counterculture happened. This is the only
good thing that happened in Britain after WWII.
--- Quote ---
> in the eyes of some, classical music and opera bear an
ancestral guilt. They are fruits of the sins of Western society:
its patriarchal and colonial mindset. The rules of tonal harmony
are, these critics say, as oppressive as British rule in India,
and have to be dismantled – witness the recent calls in
universities to “decolonise” the music curriculum.
--- End Quote ---
This is exactly the attitude that we are here to promote.
But now for the bad news:
--- Quote ---
> One way to resist that trend would be to look outside our
little island to an area of the world where classical music is
loved and firmly embedded in the culture, arousing no
embarrassment or resentment, and ask: what values does classical
music hold there? I am thinking of the Far East, where classical
music is booming to a degree that seems scarcely credible.
Japan, Malaysia and South Korea all have thriving industries,
while nowhere has its rise been so spectacular as in China.
>
> The art form has surprisingly old roots there: the Shanghai
Symphony, founded in 1879, is older than the Berlin
Philharmonic. Even after the Communist seizure of power,
classical music was encouraged, and thousands of Chinese
musicians were sent off to the Soviet Union for advanced
training.
--- End Quote ---
Once again proving that authentic communism was never
anti-Western. This is why True Leftists are necessarily
anti-communist.
--- Quote ---
> Gleaming new concert halls and opera houses are rising up all
over the country, including the spectacular National Centre for
the Performing Arts, in Beijing, opened in 2007 at a cost of
more than £200 million. China’s piano-building industry is now
the largest in the world – and 80 per cent of those instruments
are for the home market.
>
> I used to think of this as mere middle-class aspiration, the
desire of 21st-century China to “catch up” with the West, but
there’s more to it than that. Classical music chimes well with
traditional Chinese values that concern self-improvement and
self-discipline.
--- End Quote ---
How is it self-improvement to adopt the aesthetics of your
oppressors? (And how colonized do you have to be to think that
it is?)
--- Quote ---
> In line with this thinking, the Chinese regime has made
classical music a key component of its educational policy. By
the 1990s, Western classical music was judged more important
than popular music and deserving of state support. There are now
more than 40 million children across the country learning to
play the piano, and more than 200 youth orchestras in Guangdong
province alone. Higher up the chain, talented East Asian
students now flock to Western conservatoires – and I can testify
from experience that they often have a work ethic to match their
abilities.
--- End Quote ---
We have so much decolonization to do.....
(And some people think Xi is anti-Western. No, Xi is
anti-Counterculture, which makes him pro-Western since the
Counterculture itself was an anti-Western movement.)
--- Quote ---
> The results of this nurturing of classical music across East
Asia can already be seen in Western orchestras, where vacant
positions are increasingly filled by players from China, Korea,
Singapore and Japan. And at the level of the globetrotting star,
Chinese performers and composers are ubiquitous, fired up by a
love of an art form they are determined to make their own. Yuja
Wang, possibly the most famous pianist on the planet, has
declared that “music, in the Chinese mind, is the most sublime
thing you can do”.
--- End Quote ---
It would logically follow that Western classical music, in the
mind of Eurocentrists from "New China", is the most sublimely
Western thing you can do. Which of course is the very reason why
the Eurocentrists from "New China" do it.
Wang also looks like what we would expect:
HTML https://seatgeek.com/images/performers-landscape/yuja-wang-c06be2/8464/1100x1900.jpg
Here is a video of her trying her hardest to be as sublimely
Western as possible:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9crd3QyeT4
HTML https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png
Woke comments:
--- Quote ---
> It's the Chinese trying to prove how civilized they're society
is by subsidizing things they think are high status which
includes pretentious traditions of the white elite of
yesteryear.
>
> I hate to be the one to point this out but it's incredibly sad
and pathetic.
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote ---
> China has long admired and sought to posses western
technology, building styles, and culture with a chinese twist, a
hybrid, as opposed to creating something authentically Chinese.
--- End Quote ---
However, it is the following based (ie. pro-Western) comment
that (without intending to be) is even more revealing about the
evil of Western classical music:
--- Quote ---
> Classical music interest has sprout up in unexpected areas,
such as in Venezuela, in the Congo, in Mexico, in Vietnam, and
in Arab lands. Classical music forces people to become more
focused and disciplined to understand its complexity. Would
heavy metal music do that? I doubt it. Heavy metal leads one to
drug usage. Most parents force their children into classical
music training not so much due to their favoring the music but
more so to develop inner discipline.
--- End Quote ---
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Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 12, 2022, 10:13 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/mindy-kaling-other-south-asian-215721954.html
--- Quote ---
> Mindy Kaling, other South Asian comedians called out for
perpetuating stereotypes
> ...
> Dhanani calls out Kaling and stand-up comedians Russell Peters
and Lily Singh in particular:
>
> "If you're in America and you want to be racist against Black
people, you can deep dive into the ancient tomes of racism and
find a stereotype or a slur. Same with East Asians, same with
Latinos. But if you want to make fun of South Asians, where do
those insults usually come from? South Asian comedians," he
says. "Mindy Kaling, Russell Peters, Lilly Singh, what do they
talk about? Our parents talk funny and they beat us and we eat
stinky food and we are stinky and there's hair all over."
>
> Singh faced backlash in 2019 for comparing turbans to towels
on her late-night show. Peters, who was the first comedian to
have a Netflix stand-up special, is known for his imitations of
Indian stereotypes, with his most famous bit being about his
father's penchant for corporal punishment, which ends with his
signature catchphrase: "Somebody gonna get a hurt real bad."
>
> Dhanani says the popularity of comedians who promoted harmful
South Asian stereotypes affected the way he was treated in high
school.
>
> He points out that audiences feel comfortable repeating these
stereotypes "because a Brown person said it on TV."
>
> "Russell Peters popped off when I was in high school, and I
had white people coming up to me in the hallway and quoting
Russell Peters and laughing about it," he explains.
>
> "And I just played along! I laughed along, I added on, because
that's how you fit in with white people. You let them laugh at
you."
> ...
> The TikTok creator also calls out the popularity and use of
"the voice," referring to an exaggerated Indian accent, by
stand-up comedians.
>
> Dhanani explains that a cousin of his who is a professional
stand-up comedian on TikTok uses "the voice" in "every single
one of her videos."
>
> "In her stand-up routines, just like Lilly Singh, she does the
voice to make fun of her parents. And just like Lilly Singh, her
parents don't have that accent."
--- End Quote ---
The part in bold is one of the most concise summaries of
Eurocentrism that I have encountered to date.
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